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supernova · 11 November 2023, 03:04 AM

Hi all, just got hold of a M serial Sub LV I always wanted from a brick and mortar dealer that I have purchased from before. I’m 99% sure all is ok but would obviously like the blessing from the experts here too. Only thing putting me off is the bracelet code doesn’t match the clasp code (PJ vs EO off by 1 year only though?). I read that a lot of high end bracelet replicas are EO codes.

I’m also not an expert on the LV bezel.

Thanks in advance!

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WatchSmith · 11 November 2023, 03:09 AM

Can we see photos of the movement? Especially the balance. Externally it can be nearly impossible to authenticate.

supernova · 11 November 2023, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchSmith

Can we see photos of the movement? Especially the balance. Externally it can be nearly impossible to authenticate.

My main concern is the bracelet tbh and maybe the bezel if it was ever swapped etc. Regards to the actual watch head, I don’t have any doubts really.

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thesharkfactor · 11 November 2023, 05:14 AM

Looks good, no red flags to me.

omar-rye · 11 November 2023, 05:56 AM

Are you trying to confirm if this watch was born an LV or if the bezel is a genuine Rolex part?

PepsiBezel · 11 November 2023, 07:16 AM

I just checked my M6-serial 16610LV. Mine has a PJ4 clasp code, and the SEL has “PJ” engraved.

Yours is a PJ1 clasp code, and while the SELs have EO engraved that could be a result of the timing. PJ1 would have been the first clasps as they were transitioning from EO. As Rolex, particularly in that era, would tend to “bin” components, I would not worry about it.

The rest of the watch looks good to me from the pics. However, if you want to deep-dive I recommend this website as a great guide to the many 16610LV variations.

https://millenarywatches.com/rolex-s...6610lv-kermit/

Lesnerelli23 · 11 November 2023, 07:25 AM

Having an unfortunate experience with a knock off bracelet in the past, I can say with 100% yours looks nothing like the fake I had to return.

The engravings look deep and precise and the polished areas look fantastic as well.

This opinion comes off one bad experience and I would never call myself an expert but to me it looks good!

Also, you’ve got the maxi dial there so that likely indicates it was “born an LV” as another member called it :)

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faimag · 11 November 2023, 07:30 AM

I think it looks totally legit and the condition is really crisp! Enjoy it!

Michael1968 · 11 November 2023, 07:53 AM

Everything fine

Subb · 11 November 2023, 08:18 AM

Its beautiful, congrats...

krochana · 11 November 2023, 08:29 AM

No doubt about the head IMO, but I’m more concerned about the clasp.

East of Eden · 11 November 2023, 08:54 AM

Looks good.

dcash0615 · 11 November 2023, 09:11 AM

You have a nice example of an M serial with a mark 7 dial, and January 2008 dated bracelet. Bezel, dial, and bracelet are period correct for an M serial LV. Enjoy your watch.

supernova · 11 November 2023, 10:10 AM

Forgot to mention the card does list this as sold in March 2008 so that matches too. Thanks all, I’m really happy with the purchase, took a long time hunting this one!

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youneswatches · 11 November 2023, 10:14 AM

Could not find any red flags even after checking twice, looks great to me.

georgew · 11 November 2023, 10:19 AM

My 16610V M is dated Jan 2008 - and clasp code is EO7. Yours looks just like mine best I can tell - maxi dial etc (not an expert though)

Kostas · 11 November 2023, 10:53 AM

You have my blessing, nothing can be 100% from pics but I’ll give you a 999.9 congrats!

worldofoyster · 11 November 2023, 12:49 PM

did you match the serial#?

supernova · 11 November 2023, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by worldofoyster

did you match the serial#?

Yes, serial on rehaut, between lugs, card and original sales receipt all match! I’m just afraid the bracelet might have been swapped for a none genuine but all the others above seem to have confirm A ok

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JDA0779 · 11 November 2023, 01:57 PM

Looks great and crisp. Congrats

Oyster Al · 11 November 2023, 02:23 PM

Work of art! Enjoy!

geoach · 11 November 2023, 07:41 PM

In the U.S the warranty card when bought new will have LV on the card.

travisb · 11 November 2023, 11:25 PM

Looks good for all I can see. Congratulations!

supernova · 12 November 2023, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoach

In the U.S the warranty card when bought new will have LV on the card.

Was actually bought in Switzerland and the warranty card does have the reference as “16610LV”.

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11 November 2023, 03:04 AM	#1
supernova "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Europe/Asia Watch: AP/Rolex Posts: 1,295	Incoming 16610LV Check Hi all, just got hold of a M serial Sub LV I always wanted from a brick and mortar dealer that I have purchased from before. I’m 99% sure all is ok but would obviously like the blessing from the experts here too. Only thing putting me off is the bracelet code doesn’t match the clasp code (PJ vs EO off by 1 year only though?). I read that a lot of high end bracelet replicas are EO codes. I’m also not an expert on the LV bezel. Thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 November 2023, 08:29 AM	#11
krochana "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 71	No doubt about the head IMO, but I’m more concerned about the clasp. Last edited by krochana; 11 November 2023 at 08:30 AM.. Reason: Misinfo

11 November 2023, 08:54 AM	#12
East of Eden "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Pompano Beach, FL Posts: 530	Looks good. __________________ Watches: More than I need, not as many as I want.

11 November 2023, 09:11 AM	#13
dcash0615 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: CA Watch: es Posts: 4,380	You have a nice example of an M serial with a mark 7 dial, and January 2008 dated bracelet. Bezel, dial, and bracelet are period correct for an M serial LV. Enjoy your watch. __________________ Instagram @dcash0615 2FA security active

11 November 2023, 10:10 AM	#14
supernova "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Europe/Asia Watch: AP/Rolex Posts: 1,295	Incoming 16610LV Check Forgot to mention the card does list this as sold in March 2008 so that matches too. Thanks all, I’m really happy with the purchase, took a long time hunting this one! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 November 2023, 03:09 AM	#2
WatchSmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 702	Can we see photos of the movement? Especially the balance. Externally it can be nearly impossible to authenticate.

11 November 2023, 05:14 AM	#4
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,531	Looks good, no red flags to me.

11 November 2023, 05:56 AM	#5
omar-rye "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Underground Posts: 2,197	Are you trying to confirm if this watch was born an LV or if the bezel is a genuine Rolex part?

11 November 2023, 07:16 AM	#6
PepsiBezel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Watch: Neo-Vintage Posts: 1,163	I just checked my M6-serial 16610LV. Mine has a PJ4 clasp code, and the SEL has “PJ” engraved. Yours is a PJ1 clasp code, and while the SELs have EO engraved that could be a result of the timing. PJ1 would have been the first clasps as they were transitioning from EO. As Rolex, particularly in that era, would tend to “bin” components, I would not worry about it. The rest of the watch looks good to me from the pics. However, if you want to deep-dive I recommend this website as a great guide to the many 16610LV variations. https://millenarywatches.com/rolex-s...6610lv-kermit/

11 November 2023, 07:25 AM	#7
Lesnerelli23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 758	Having an unfortunate experience with a knock off bracelet in the past, I can say with 100% yours looks nothing like the fake I had to return. The engravings look deep and precise and the polished areas look fantastic as well. This opinion comes off one bad experience and I would never call myself an expert but to me it looks good! Also, you’ve got the maxi dial there so that likely indicates it was “born an LV” as another member called it :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 November 2023, 07:30 AM	#8
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,078	I think it looks totally legit and the condition is really crisp! Enjoy it!

11 November 2023, 07:53 AM	#9
Michael1968 Banned Join Date: Aug 2021 Real Name: Michael Location: Europe Watch: UN,RolexTudor&more Posts: 2,742	Everything fine

11 November 2023, 08:18 AM	#10
Subb Banned Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: United States Posts: 135	Its beautiful, congrats...

11 November 2023, 10:14 AM	#15
youneswatches Banned Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Usa Watch: 124060 Posts: 328	Could not find any red flags even after checking twice, looks great to me.

11 November 2023, 10:19 AM	#16
georgew 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: George Location: USA Watch: mostly Subs Posts: 740	My 16610V M is dated Jan 2008 - and clasp code is EO7. Yours looks just like mine best I can tell - maxi dial etc (not an expert though)

11 November 2023, 10:53 AM	#17
Kostas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Australia Watch: @ kostastimepieces Posts: 5,244	You have my blessing, nothing can be 100% from pics but I’ll give you a 999.9 congrats! __________________ Follow me on IG: @kostastimepieces

11 November 2023, 12:49 PM	#18
worldofoyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vincent Location: 215 Watch: SS Sub Posts: 1,886	did you match the serial#?

11 November 2023, 01:57 PM	#20
JDA0779 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Real Name: JD Location: DUBAI Watch: 126710BLRO Jubilee Posts: 179	Looks great and crisp. Congrats __________________ JD ( Dubai ) Rolex Pepsi 126710BLRO Jubilee and Rolex Starbucks 126610LV

11 November 2023, 02:23 PM	#21
Oyster Al "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Al Location: USA Posts: 1,535	Work of art! Enjoy!

11 November 2023, 07:41 PM	#22
geoach "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: grosse pointe Watch: 16610lv y96xxxx Posts: 317	In the U.S the warranty card when bought new will have LV on the card.

11 November 2023, 11:25 PM	#23
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,418	Looks good for all I can see. Congratulations!

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