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Old 30 June 2020, 03:25 AM   #1
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Is this Oysterquartz Day-Date Dial Genuine?

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I was at an antique market today and picked this dial up for £5 basically as a gamble. Its in a bad way but wondered if it was a fake or genuine? Hope some of you can help.
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Old 30 June 2020, 04:22 AM   #2
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The narrow date window and narrow day window indicate this is from a replica watch. A lot of other details are different from a genuine one as well, so I'm saying replica/aftermarket/fake.
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Old 30 June 2020, 04:23 AM   #3
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Would a real dial age this poorly?
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Old 30 June 2020, 08:24 AM   #4
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Old 30 June 2020, 08:45 AM   #5
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Would a real dial age this poorly?
Who's to say the dial hasn't been out of its case for many years. Could've been in a box or a drawer that had water damage, some kind of pollutant, or who knows what else.
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Old 30 June 2020, 09:11 AM   #6
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Kingface, are you saying there is a chance this could be a genuine Rolex dial but has been damaged because of storage damage?

If so, please supply photographs of genuine dials where the day and date apertures are so narrow, there are no locating pegs on the back, the indices are stamped and the Rolex crown is glued on.

That's before we get to the details of the inaccurate fonts, mismatched text, off-center indices, etc., etc.

This is not a real Rolex dial, but it is a poor quality fake, probably from a knock off watch.
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Old 30 June 2020, 07:31 PM   #7
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Thanks for everyones input so far. The dial was just thrown on a stall amongst other bits of jewellery. I have no idea if its right or wrong but the seller was certainly not trying to deceive only charging £5. Its never going to be a valuable piece even if genuine but i’m more interested in if it is real and its age out of curiosity
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Old 30 June 2020, 07:37 PM   #8
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Few extra pictures
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Old 30 June 2020, 07:46 PM   #9
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It’s not genuine if that really matters.

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Old 3 July 2020, 11:25 PM   #10
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Kingface, are you saying there is a chance this could be a genuine Rolex dial but has been damaged because of storage damage?

If so, please supply photographs of genuine dials where the day and date apertures are so narrow, there are no locating pegs on the back, the indices are stamped and the Rolex crown is glued on.

That's before we get to the details of the inaccurate fonts, mismatched text, off-center indices, etc., etc.

This is not a real Rolex dial, but it is a poor quality fake, probably from a knock off watch.
Where did I say it was real?? No where did I claim it was a real dial. And I’m NOT claiming it’s real. All I said was that a dial...even a fake one...that’s NOT protected by outside elements from the security of it being in a case and crystal, can deteriorate.

Sheesh.
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Old 4 July 2020, 05:33 AM   #11
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Maybe it would be better if you explained what your thinking was. As it was written, there was a lot of ambiguity and it is not surprising that anybody, me included, would be confused. All I asked for was clarification of a confusing post.

Sheesh indeed. NY attitude! Rolex superior attitude! Bad attitude! SHEESH.
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Old 4 July 2020, 05:47 AM   #12
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Maybe it would be better if you explained what your thinking was. As it was written, there was a lot of ambiguity and it is not surprising that anybody, me included, would be confused. All I asked for was clarification of a confusing post.

Sheesh indeed. NY attitude! Rolex superior attitude! Bad attitude! SHEESH.

Bad attitude? I'm sorry if it came across that way. Just wanted to clarify that that I was not implying the dial was real.Just explaining that any dial can deteriorate...and yes, even fake ones.

As for "NY attitude" and "Rolex superior attitude", I honestly don't know what those are. I've never been accused of having either here on this forum. Sorry if I've offended you.
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You don't offend. Putting "Sheesh" in a post full of bad attitude offends me. You are a timely reminder of why I chose to leave the East Coast about 20 years ago. It's really nice not having to deal with that everyday.
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Old 4 July 2020, 06:01 AM   #14
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You don't offend. Putting "Sheesh" in a post full of bad attitude offends me. You are a timely reminder of why I chose to leave the East Coast about 20 years ago. It's really nice not having to deal with that everyday.
Again, I apologize for such language. "Sheesh" was uncalled for. It doesn't belong on this forum. And while none of what I initially responded with was a personal attack towards you, I am glad I didn't come across as petty by attacking your character, your attitude, or the place where you live.
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The dial is fake, no doubt about it.

Rolex does not stamp hour indices into the dial and does not glue the coronet to the dial face among many other things that are wrong.

At £5, you overpaid OP.
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Old 4 July 2020, 06:36 AM   #16
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Again, I apologize for such language. "Sheesh" was uncalled for. It doesn't belong on this forum. And while none of what I initially responded with was a personal attack towards you, I am glad I didn't come across as petty by attacking your character, your attitude, or the place where you live.
You just have. You have accused me of being petty in a passive-aggressive way. Just put me on ignore as I will with you, although as your attitude is typical of many on this forum I don't think I'll bother visiting or contributing much.
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You are a timely reminder of why I chose to leave the East Coast about 20 years ago. It's really nice not having to deal with that everyday.
Well, let's not exaggerate and negatively brand an entire region of the United States.

As an objective bystander, seems as if this little disagreement escalated unnecessarily. An apology was offered and that should have been the end of it, IMHO.

Anyway, I think it's been pretty much established the dial is aftermarket.
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