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Old 30 November 2021, 01:46 PM   #1
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$8-13k for a daily... this market sucks

I'm not going to use the word that starts with an "in" and ends with "vestment"
as I really am not looking to flip. I just dont want to lose my shirt and feel like a schmuck.

I have gotten my head around paying above retail (took me awhile....), but come on. $9k for an OP39, shoot me.

Is there anything out there on a bracelet that you guys (and girls) really like for the money? I've been though so much:

- Fifty Fathoms had me twice. Such an amazing watch, just so heavy and cant afford the titanium
- Sub had me a couple times, too. But so common.
- I want to like the Milgauss (im a big dork) but just cant.
- Speedmaster... LOVE... just so many versions and, unless its a snoopy, i fall asleep
- Grand Seiko NEEDS to learn to make a solid bracelet

Considering -
- Datejust 41 (how can i pay so much above retail....)
- New IWC Pilot 43 (Bracelet looks amazing)
- JLC Polaris
BUT LOOKING FOR A ROLEX.


Sorry, venting as i type this. I just want to feel like my money went in well. What is out there that is "well priced"...
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Old 30 November 2021, 01:52 PM   #2
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Get a new Aqua Terra and call it a day.
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Old 30 November 2021, 01:52 PM   #3
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I'm in the same boat. I want a Submariner as a daily but don't want to spend $15,000 on a Sub when I can just buy another day date for that money basically
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Old 30 November 2021, 01:53 PM   #4
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Consider yourself fortunate not living in Canada. Trust me, your wholesale prices are a blessing.
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Old 30 November 2021, 01:58 PM   #5
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For that price range under $10k get an IWC Pilot 3881-02 and call it a day for a daily.

I've been eyeing this exact piece and will probably pull the trigger soon.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:01 PM   #6
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My personal experience... I tried to replace the Rolex submariner with another brand/model. However, deep down inside, I knew what I wanted, and the watch was just a replacement for what I really want. Years later, I did not care about the replacement watch. Eventually, I still bought a Rolex submariner. Don't fool yourself. You won't be happy.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:01 PM   #7
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BUT LOOKING FOR A ROLEX.

You have already said you won’t pay the prices needed to get one today.

But you still want a Rolex?

Why do you inflict such pain on yourself?


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Old 30 November 2021, 02:04 PM   #8
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Aqua Terra x2

Or Polaris. I saw one at an AD and loved the look.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:11 PM   #9
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BUT LOOKING FOR A ROLEX.

But you still want a Rolex?

Why do you inflict such pain on yourself?
Indeed. Only in TRF fantasy land would a $8-13K budget for a “daily” watch be considered anywhere near normal.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:13 PM   #10
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For that price range under $10k get an IWC Pilot 3881-02 and call it a day for a daily.

I've been eyeing this exact piece and will probably pull the trigger soon.
What do you think about the newer "small" big pilot 43? That bracelet looks sick.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:15 PM   #11
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BUT LOOKING FOR A ROLEX.

You have already said you won’t pay the prices needed to get one today.

But you still want a Rolex?

Why do you inflict such pain on yourself?


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Its a problem. I need a group to talk to.

I dont mind spending the money (just bought a new Daytona Oysterflex yellow gold Panda), just itch when i have to pay over retail...
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:17 PM   #12
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Aqua Terra x2

Or Polaris. I saw one at an AD and loved the look.
which Polaris do I go for? I LOVE the look, just new to the brand/series. I dont "need" the chime, so thats kind of out. Maybe the date? but i dont "need" that either.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:19 PM   #13
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BUT LOOKING FOR A ROLEX.

You have already said you won’t pay the prices needed to get one today.

But you still want a Rolex?

Why do you inflict such pain on yourself?


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I've had a Milguass, Sub and Explorer all in my basked on Crown and Caliber... just feel like none of them are special enough for the price. Does that make sense?
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:22 PM   #14
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:23 PM   #15
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Have you seen the new speedy and it’s impressive new bracelet? It’s worth a look in that price range.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:23 PM   #16
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5 digit Explorer 2s, black or white. Great watches and relatively reasonable.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:27 PM   #17
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At least in my experience...if you want a Rolex, then you want a Rolex, and anything else is still going to leave you wanting a Rolex.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:29 PM   #18
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To the OP…..Guess I shouldn’t tell you what I did today then…..:)
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:32 PM   #19
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5 digit Explorer 2s, black or white. Great watches and relatively reasonable.
yeah, ill look at those again.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:33 PM   #20
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To the OP…..Guess I shouldn’t tell you what I did today then…..:)
ha. mine sold me a Oysterflex Daytona at retail, so i cant complain. But cant go back to the well again so quickly.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:36 PM   #21
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Have you seen the new speedy and it’s impressive new bracelet? It’s worth a look in that price range.
yes!! I have. Just cant figure out which one to get...

Omega gets me looking at the $7k and then finding myself online wondering if i should pay $22k for a snoopy...
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:36 PM   #22
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Have you seen the new speedy and it’s impressive new bracelet? It’s worth a look in that price range.
I own the 1861 and went to check out the new version. The taper is too aggressive in my opinion and makes the watch feel incredibly imbalanced, also felt too light. That isn't to say I'm a fan of the 1861 bracelet either.

To the OP, I also say AT. Or an Explorer 1/2, maybe an OP41 (other than the colourful versions which are impossible to get).

I feel your pain though. For the price range, and even in the grey market, I personally feel Rolex is incredibly difficult to beat. Each time I try to look for good alternatives I always circle back to Rolex.

Unless you're willing to jump up in brands or move to independants, both of which will cost a damn sight more, I struggle to see where the direct competition is for good steel bracelet watches.
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Old 30 November 2021, 02:42 PM   #23
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yes!! I have. Just cant figure out which one to get...

Omega gets me looking at the $7k and then finding myself online wondering if i should pay $22k for a snoopy...
I have the previous Speedmaster Pro Hesalite and it gets regular use. I recently tried on the new version and it’s a great evolution although not enough for me to “upgrade” my current one. I’m a longtime watch buyer and was kind of late to the Speedy but can’t see myself without one now.
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yes!! I have. Just cant figure out which one to get...

Omega gets me looking at the $7k and then finding myself online wondering if i should pay $22k for a snoopy...
I have the omega in my signature, I personally prefer the broad arrow. It’s on on a staib mesh bracelet.

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Old 30 November 2021, 03:01 PM   #25
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116710LN Ceramic GMT Black discontinued. Market prices aren't too crazy right now. But I only see them going up.
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Old 30 November 2021, 03:04 PM   #26
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Common?

Who cares. I don't see any where I hang out. Here is a daily in your price range. My soon to arrive common sub:
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Old 30 November 2021, 03:05 PM   #27
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Cartier santos.
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Old 30 November 2021, 03:06 PM   #28
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116710LN Ceramic GMT Black discontinued. Market prices aren't too crazy right now. But I only see them going up.
oooo, thats a good direction!
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Old 30 November 2021, 03:12 PM   #29
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Who cares. I don't see any where I hang out. Here is a daily in your price range. My soon to arrive common sub:
https://www.rolexforums.com/attachme...1&d=1638248613
Very nice! I have that exact same spec in a V serial. I agree that they're not at all common. I see ceramic subs all the time, but very rarely do I ever see the 5 digits.

5 digit is a great shout and opens the door to a wide world of options including a GMT (condition might not be the best for the budget), Explorer 1 & 2, and a whole host of Submariner options.

14060m prices are currently going crazy - more so than the 16610. A late run 16610 would be a fantastic choice for a daily.
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Old 30 November 2021, 03:19 PM   #30
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I hear you man. It’s madness you have to spend a fortune to get anything these days. For perspective 6 years ago I paid 13500 on my Amex for a new 15400ST out of the case in NYC.


Today 13k I’m looking at

124060
14060
Exp II black

I find it hard to believe you can’t score a ti FF at this budget. I use to get those 25% off all day. Is that over with?

I have the BP43. It’s really nice and runs like a top. Size definitely still justifies the name imho even on my 7” wrist it uses all the real estate. I tend to prefer my navitimer though so I’ll probably move it on.

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