scammed?? please help (schaumburgla)

[jurob]

Justin, the phone number he was communicating with, is that your number? Obviously the bank account number is not yours either?

I hope this gets straightened out.

Originally Posted by schaumburgla

First off I am very sorry this happened to you. I try to be as responsible as possible with my account & login credentials but apparently last month my account was hacked & I was locked out. I have been working with a moderator to get my account back ASAP but there are certain steps & precautions they must take to verify me & that took some time.
Anyhow I have my account back & will again try to do the 2 factor authentication to prevent this from happening again. I did try & do the 2F auth. a while ago but didn’t get anywhere ; I’m just not the most tech savvy guy.
Again I am very sorry for your being taken advantage of & wish for the best possible outcome for you. If indeed I would have posted Sold on a listing & than that deal fell through I would certainly have bumped the listing clearly stating this.
Best
Justin / schaumburgla

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

So you paid $1000 less than asking, for a watch shown as sold for 3 weeks - but NOT relisted by seller
And you were not in any way concerned??

Ouch bro! No need to stomp him when he’s down!


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[Token74]

Really sorry to have read all this. I’ve bought from a couple of sellers here and it’s been fine, but when I read what’s happened here, this could easily have happened to me...so whilst it’s scant consolation OP, don’t beat yourself up as I do believe that lost of us would have fallen for this.

I hope that somehow something good comes from this.


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[Brady2117]

Damn..you guys really making this guy feel like shxx like no one here has ever made a bad decision or been duped.
Sorry bro...sucks. Hope you figure things out

[77T]

Originally Posted by Brady2117

Damn..you guys really making this guy feel like shxx like no one here has ever made a bad decision or been duped.
Sorry bro...sucks. Hope you figure things out

Who are “you guys”?

If you read carefully, only one or two people made a condescending post out of the many more who commiserated and tried to help.






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[carwashchris]

OP, that just plain sucks. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Best Chris

[htrap2294]

Why can't we retroactively apply 2FA? To continue using the forums, you must have 2FA. This would solve all problems.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by htrap2294

Why can't we retroactively apply 2FA? To continue using the forums, you must have 2FA. This would solve all problems.

Don’t think you can do it on Tapatalk, which many people use


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[Pim]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Don’t think you can do it on Tapatalk, which many people use


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1. enable 2fa
or
2. have a disclaimer in your footer stating that this account is not secure

or something like that. Something has to happen, this is getting out of hand and too many people are getting hurt through this forum and everybody has to take some portion o the responsibility.

Users, sellers, buyers and forum admins

[Bassplayer]

What is the timeframe a bank can recover wired funds?

Also, let your local FBI know about this if not already.

Shit happens to all of us at some point in our lives. Best of luck and think positive thoughts...

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Pim

1. enable 2fa
or
2. have a disclaimer in your footer stating that this account is not secure

or something like that. Something has to happen, this is getting out of hand and too many people are getting hurt through this forum and everybody has to take some portion o the responsibility.

Users, sellers, buyers and forum admins

Do you think advising potential scammers that your account is not secure is a good idea?

If you stated that you have a 2fa requirement would scammers look elsewhere?

E.

[RW88]

Sorry to hear. I hope you get your money back.

[Pim]

Originally Posted by Andad

Do you think advising potential scammers that your account is not secure is a good idea?

If you stated that you have a 2fa requirement would scammers look elsewhere?

E.

1. It is not advertising if only you get the warning before advertising a watch
2. Yes, if the know all sellers are using 2fa by default i think that crime rates on this forum would plummet

[GGGMT]

If people didn’t fall for these scams, the crime rate would also plummet. Just buy from established, well reputed sellers, do your basic phone calling, confirmation, and enjoy the watch world. In almost all of these cases, it’s generally avoidable with some basic effort, minimal due diligence, paying attention, and treating money importantly.


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[tomminator855]

That’s suck man ! Sorry to hear that .


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[Sunny Arizona]

Originally Posted by htrap2294

Why can't we retroactively apply 2FA? To continue using the forums, you must have 2FA. This would solve all problems.

As a result of reading this I quickly installed the app. I’ve dealt with Justin for years. I knew this had to be something nefarious.

[tomminator855]

Stupid question I may ask , what’s the best way to keep your account safe ?


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[S``]

Originally Posted by tomminator855

Stupid question I may ask , what’s the best way to keep your account safe ?


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2FA via Authy or Google Authenticator

[Peemaster]

If the investigation of your bank doesn’t lead to a return of your funds I’d suggest to sue schaumburgia for the whole amount. He is mainly responsible for your loss, either because it was actually him who scammed you and claimed to got hacked or because he acted careless with his account security. He even admitted that he didn’t put in place important security measures.

Make a screencap of his posts and just sue the shit out of him. Sellers who act irresponsibly shouldn’t be allowed to sell watches ever again. A ban from the selling area should be a no brainer...

[michaelodonnell123]

Sigh...yet another situation where the scammer commands somebody to wire money over and the person happily complies knowing full well there is no guarantee of ever receiving the merchandise. It makes no sense.

[SAlNlDllvllAlNl]

First off, sorry for this happening to you OP. I hope there is a light at the end of this tunnel. Also, someone said that the phone number that the OP posted about the seller seems to be the correct number. Any confirmation on that?

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

If people didn’t fall for these scams, the crime rate would also plummet. Just buy from established, well reputed sellers, do your basic phone calling, confirmation, and enjoy the watch world. In almost all of these cases, it’s generally avoidable with some basic effort, minimal due diligence, paying attention, and treating money importantly.


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Great advice. I would be so scared to send thousands of my hard earned dollars to someone I didn't know, sight unseen.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by cajunron

Great advice. I would be so scared to send thousands of my hard earned dollars to someone I didn't know, sight unseen.

Exactly. You don’t see DavidSW, HQMilton, Jacek, or any of the boutique sellers getting hacked. Just buy from those dudes. In addition, most of the stories are people coming here after they’ve already been defrauded. Why not come to the forum before you get to Friday – – in other words wanna do some due diligence before you sent thousands of dollars to a stranger?


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[jurob]

Originally Posted by SAlNlDllvllAlNl

First off, sorry for this happening to you OP. I hope there is a light at the end of this tunnel. Also, someone said that the phone number that the OP posted about the seller seems to be the correct number. Any confirmation on that?

Link doesn’t work, but you can see what was in it.

Bank will not be helpful as the money was sent. Police need to be called and they need to subpoena bank records and things may become clearer.

I know if I got the case I would be able to determine if our member here is the suspect. If he is the suspect, it will be easy, if he is not it will not be easy finding the money.

[interestedwatcher]

Originally Posted by jurob

Link doesn’t work, but you can see what was in it.

Bank will not be helpful as the money was sent. Police need to be called and they need to subpoena bank records and things may become clearer.

I know if I got the case I would be able to determine if our member here is the suspect. If he is the suspect, it will be easy, if he is not it will not be easy finding the money.

You'd have to be unlucky, to get hacked, and the hacker also managed to take over your phone at the same time...

[77T]

Originally Posted by interestedwatcher

You'd have to be unlucky, to get hacked, and the hacker also managed to take over your phone at the same time...

Well in this case it would have been the hacker’s intent to take over the phone all along.

Getting a SIM split allows scammer to send fake text messages posing as hacked seller. They don’t take over the phone per se, they just add their burner device as a clone in the system.

Back to prevention:
1) a well-informed, cautious buyer is first step.
2) a secured seller (2FA) is best second step.


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[jurob]

Originally Posted by interestedwatcher

You'd have to be unlucky, to get hacked, and the hacker also managed to take over your phone at the same time...

Yep, I will be curious where this goes. He never responded if it is his phone number.

[interestedwatcher]

Originally Posted by jurob

Yep, I will be curious where this goes. He never responded if it is his phone number.

In the above post, you can see that phone number is linked to the seller from his other interactions on other forums.

In his response he doesn't mention his phone being ported or hijacked. If I was OP I'd be reaching out to people he has dealt with on the other forums he has frequented - if it is his bank account he transferred to, that's the last nail in the coffin for me.

[HERITAGE82]

Originally Posted by Peemaster

If the investigation of your bank doesn’t lead to a return of your funds I’d suggest to sue schaumburgia for the whole amount. He is mainly responsible for your loss, either because it was actually him who scammed you and claimed to got hacked or because he acted careless with his account security. He even admitted that he didn’t put in place important security measures.

Make a screencap of his posts and just sue the shit out of him. Sellers who act irresponsibly shouldn’t be allowed to sell watches ever again. A ban from the selling area should be a no brainer...

Good lord aren't you a bit sue happy

[faimag]

OP, I PM-ed you. Sorry this has happened to you. But all the info you have on Justin's wire, phone, address, etc are all different than those I had when I dealt (succesfully) with him a few months ago.