How much Gold worth in a full gold rolex

[Sammk]

curious to know what is the worth of gold on average in a full gold rolex?

[Tools]

I don't have one of the new solid bracelet Presidents, but let me give you the values of one before 2010 and you can do the math..

Taking out the movement and popping off the crystal, the gold value of an 18k Rolex can be determined as follows: Weights have been calculated at .750 pure gold

. Mid-case weights 18.5 grams = 13.875 grams of pure gold.

. Case back weighs 7.21 grams = 5.41 grams of pure gold.

. Bezel weighs 5.30 grams = 3.98 grams of pure gold.

. The bracelet weighs 68.85 grams= 51.64 grams of pure gold.

[Nidal]

average 150 grams of gold roughly, 5 gram gold bar is 210 $
I'd say 6500$ give or take, so you are paying for SS Rolex more than its weight in gold

[Keith1]

The entire 18k Submariner weighs 222 grams.

[ocabj]

Originally Posted by Keith1

The entire 18k Submariner weighs 222 grams.

But what does the movement, dial, and crystal weigh?

[tkerrmd]

No were near what the watch cost!

[Sublover2166]

Rolex even machines out some of the inside of the case to give you even less gold. Seen some photos of this on an 18 K gold case. Does a platinum Daytona really contain 75K worth of precious metal? I think not.

[crowncollection]

Not that much IMHO.

[unitas12]

Maybe 3 -4k at today's gold value. It's a huge markup for sure. They are turning gold into a rolex we covet. It's no different to what the do to SS. They are much cheaper watches out there.

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by ocabj

But what does the movement, dial, and crystal weigh?

i would say around 25 grams

[MILGAUSS88]

Older presidents (1803) have around 100grams of 18k = $3,000.
Just weighed an older sub w/ band approx 140 grams of 18K = $5,200

[AK797]

I would guess around 170-80 grams on a subc.

[Mr Singh]

So how much gold does a two tone blue sub contain compared to the full gold?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

So how much gold does a two tone blue sub contain compared to the full gold?

The total weight of gold in most all the TT models would not vary a lot about a average of 15-23 grams of 18Kt gold in total with all the bracelet original links.Now on TT watches prior to approx 2007 the crowns were just gold capped over steel. But from around 2008/9 they started what they call monobloc crowns,now these are made from solid gold but the center is machined out, to accommodate a stainless steel sleeve, with s.steel threads. Other wise the gold crown if it had gold threads would wear very quickly, but the amount of gold weight difference between the two types is a very very very small amount.

[Mr Singh]

Originally Posted by padi56

The total weight of gold in most all the TT models would not vary a lot about a average of 15-23 grams of 18Kt gold in total with all the bracelet original links.Now on TT watches prior to approx 2007 the crowns were just gold capped over steel. But from around 2008/9 they started what they call monobloc crowns,now these are made from solid gold but the center is machined out, to accommodate a stainless steel sleeve, with s.steel threads. Other wise the gold crown if it had gold threads would wear very quickly, but the amount of gold weight difference between the two types is a very very very small amount.

Thanks for the info Padi, quite interesting. So not much gold at all really on a TT then? Yet the Sub TT price is approx £3k over that of a SS.

Having said that I suppose with the discounts available on TT's it ain't too bad really.

[FWK]

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

Rolex even machines out some of the inside of the case to give you even less gold. Seen some photos of this on an 18 K gold case. Does a platinum Daytona really contain 75K worth of precious metal? I think not.

Would love to see this!

[locutus49]

According to Rolex, it is 3 times easier to machine gold than 904L SS or Platinum, so machining costs are considerably less.

But you can't really fault Rolex for precious metal watches; aren't all luxury brands that use gold very expensive? And even wedding rings are enormously more expensive than the actual value of the metal. Just the nature of the luxury business.

[14060m]

Interesting I love my ss subc date

[Sammk]

discounts available on TT's? are there more discounts available on TT's as compared to SS? acceding to my knowledge all Rolex watches are roughly equally discounted, doesn't matter its a TT, full gold or SS

Originally Posted by Mr Singh

Thanks for the info Padi, quite interesting. So not much gold at all really on a TT then? Yet the Sub TT price is approx £3k over that of a SS.

Having said that I suppose with the discounts available on TT's it ain't too bad really.

[Sammk]

Easier?.. if the machining cost on Gold is relatively less than that of platinum and SS, then how come the gold watches are so over priced (in comparison to the actual gold used in it)... I would think the price to make a watch out of Gold would be higher than that of steel thus the high price of Gold pieces

Originally Posted by locutus49

According to Rolex, it is 3 times easier to machine gold than 904L SS or Platinum, so machining costs are considerably less.

But you can't really fault Rolex for precious metal watches; aren't all luxury brands that use gold very expensive? And even wedding rings are enormously more expensive than the actual value of the metal. Just the nature of the luxury business.

[T. Ferguson]

Not sure why this question comes up when it never comes up in regard to the premium we pay for stainless steel.

I'm not convinced the premium we pay for the gold in a Rolex is any more than the premium we pay for stainless steel in a Rolex. I suspect the mark up on SS is a lot more than it is on gold.

[Michael M.]

A great (or better) question would how much is the stainless steel worth on a submariner? That is, if you want to discuss premiums.

[SubTTKky]

Thanks much for the analysis interesting inputs from all...perhaps should also factor in the marketing cost?

Understd tat Rolex invested a lot on marketing n creating the brand...the magical ROLEX tat instantly connects n communicates to everyone the perception of a successful achiever!

Now if anyone can provide the marketing cost value $numbers... my apologies if tis discussion is only on materials standpoint n not other input...

[Flex368]

Originally Posted by Sammk

to my knowledge all Rolex watches are roughly equally discounted, doesn't matter its a TT, full gold or SS

Not true, much higher discounts are available on TT and full gold models.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

Not sure why this question comes up when it never comes up in regard to the premium we pay for stainless steel.

I'm not convinced the premium we pay for the gold in a Rolex is any more than the premium we pay for stainless steel in a Rolex. I suspect the mark up on SS is a lot more than it is on gold.

I suspect you are right, I have heard some really low numbers on the cost of the SS. I think if you have a gold watch you may be asked what is the weight of it or of the gold, or is it solid gold or plated etc so I think it's not a bad idea to know a bit about the gold content.

[Racerdj]

Interesting topic, but I don't plan on melting mine down to a gold bar in the future.

[Sammk]

How come? lets say for example the SS is retailing for $8000. So if the gold watch is to be sold at the exact same premium as the SS it would sell for $8000 + $4000 (cost assumption of Solid gold value), which is $12000. Instead the soild gold models are retailing for $30,000. The Movement of the watch and the making is exactly the same of the Gold watch as the SS watch. So you can see how much more premium they r charging on the Gold models.

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

Not sure why this question comes up when it never comes up in regard to the premium we pay for stainless steel.

I'm not convinced the premium we pay for the gold in a Rolex is any more than the premium we pay for stainless steel in a Rolex. I suspect the mark up on SS is a lot more than it is on gold.

[Sammk]

Brand new ones or are you talking about pre owned ones?

Originally Posted by Flex368

Not true, much higher discounts are available on TT and full gold models.

[Flex368]

I´m talking about brand new ones from the AD.

Besides that, the premium for a Rolex gold watch has nothing to do with the material used.

[Sammk]

Yes I clearly understand that from the price tag...I was saying this in conjuction to the fact that someone mentioned that there is more premium charged on the Rolex SS compared to the full Gold models

Originally Posted by Flex368

I´m talking about brand new ones from the AD.

Besides that, the premium for a Rolex gold watch has nothing to do with the material used.