The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 29 November 2021, 10:24 AM   #1
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
If you had 30k dollars…

And could only buy 3 non Rolex watches brand new at msrp from an AD, what would they be and why? (In other words, not a pre owned watch trading below 10k and each watch must be less than 10k dollars msrp, so not two 1k dollar watches and 1 28k dollar watch etc)

For me it would be:

Omega speedmaster
Cartier santos medium
JLC reverso green dial
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 10:30 AM   #2
blue17
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 10
Santos SS Large
Heritage Seamaster 300 (not diver)
Nomos Zurich World Time

No idea what I'd do with my 10k of change.
blue17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 11:06 AM   #3
SoylentGreenChi
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: États-Unis
Watch: Patek, Rolex, Sinn
Posts: 835
If three watches (original question) -
Zenith El Primero Original, reverse Panda dial, for a chrono
Glashutte SeaQ, for a dive watch
JLC Master Control, for a dressier watch

Logic: three watches that fill different purposes, all great references from terrific brands. I pick the El Primero over the Omega Speedmaster because the new El Primero release is outstanding, but could easily go Omego for Zenith here.

If two watches (what I would actually do) -
A. Lange Sohne Saxonia thin, for dress watch
Glashutte SeaQ, for sports/dive watch

Logic: I’d rather have two great pieces, than three very good ones. By limiting the number to two watches in your budget, you get an ALS, and that’s simply next level finishing. Glashutte SeaQ fits the bill for a sports watch, and it’s outstanding, though could have gone Blancpain Fifty Fathoms for watch two here. Also tempted to go ALS Saxonia Automatic at a higher price point, and making the second watch a Sinn ~$3K to keep in the $30K budget.

If one watch:
Patek 5167A, which is impossible to get new at an AD, but playing along for thought exercise!
SoylentGreenChi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 11:23 AM   #4
GB-man
2024 Pledge Member
 
GB-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 36,815
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue17 View Post
Santos SS Large
Heritage Seamaster 300 (not diver)
Nomos Zurich World Time

No idea what I'd do with my 10k of change.

Breitling navitimer 806 re-edition

Zenith shadow

Speedy

I’d much rather blow the 30 on one watch for 5-10 and one for 20 though!
__________________
GB-man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 12:08 PM   #5
GolfJunkie
2024 Pledge Member
 
GolfJunkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Real Name: Eric
Location: USA
Watch: 252
Posts: 4,797
Zenith chronomaster sport
IWC 41mm chronograph
Glashutte panomatic lunar

Might stretch that budget a little and swap the IWC for a JLC master control chrono
__________________
2FA Enabled
GolfJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 12:21 PM   #6
_speedmaster_
"TRF" Member
 
_speedmaster_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,443
Glashutte Original SeaQ on strap
Grand Seiko SBGY007
Zenith Revival Shadow
__________________
Blancpain | Chopard LUC | Grand Seiko/King Seiko | Grönefeld | Laurent Ferrier | Moritz Grossmann | Omega | Trilobe | Urban Jürgensen


instagram.com/ct_watch_guy
_speedmaster_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 12:28 PM   #7
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsfan0704 View Post
And could only buy 3 non Rolex watches brand new at msrp from an AD, what would they be and why? (In other words, not a pre owned watch trading below 10k and each watch must be less than 10k dollars msrp, so not two 1k dollar watches and 1 28k dollar watch etc)

For me it would be:

Omega speedmaster
Cartier santos medium
JLC reverso green dial
I realized i didn't even answer my own question

The why for my three choices:

The speedmaster is an iconic watch. Full stop. The new 3861 with the updated bracelet really improves the feel of the watch from what I understand. I find that its a better looking watch than the Daytona and the price point, $7,150 for the saphire sandwhich is pretty reasonable. I also love that the watch can go from bracelet, to leather strap, to nato and still retain its essence.

The medium santos combines the size of a dress watch (and the face) with the qualities of a SS sports watch. The white face is so clean. The ability to add a leather strap and make the easy switch between bracelets really makes it like having two watches in one - sports and dress. This second watch could have been a tank americaine in SS as well, but i went with the Santos because of the metal bracelet option.

Reverso - an icon. Obviously top notch movement produced by JLC. Such a unique watch - the ability to flip the case over even though its not something people do anymore for its intended polo purpose is still so cool. The green dial here is great, love the idea of adding a black aligator strap also. Could go with any reverso here though and be right.
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 12:58 PM   #8
scarlet knight
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA
Watch: Good ones
Posts: 8,108
I’ve owned a Reverso and Speedy for awhile. As a collector, I highly recommend them. Would never sell them.
scarlet knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 03:31 PM   #9
037
2024 Pledge Member
 
037's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 6,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsfan0704 View Post
(In other words, not a pre owned watch trading below 10k and each watch must be less than 10k dollars msrp, so not two 1k dollar watches and 1 28k dollar watch etc)
Why not one 28k watch and two 1k watches? And, why new and not pre-owned?

If I had 30k for three watches I probably wouldn't buy three watches. I hate following the rules.
037 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 03:40 PM   #10
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 25,958
30k to purchase at MSRP…
5711

Without hesitation.



No flipping in mind.
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 04:47 PM   #11
EdwardC
2024 Pledge Member
 
EdwardC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Pacific
Posts: 3,475
Quote:
Originally Posted by subtona View Post
30k to purchase at MSRP…
5711

Without hesitation.



No flipping in mind.
Was going to suggest something similar. If picking 3 watches is a requirement, I would do

AP 15450 Grey
Omega speedmaster pro
Seiko 5 (pick your favorite)
EdwardC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 November 2021, 08:00 PM   #12
ts3
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,199
If I wanted to blow 30k I'd certainly not follow OP's formula. I'd rather spend most on a nice sports watch and leave around 3k each for a cheap SS dress watch (such as a preowned JLC Ultra Thin) and a beater (preowned IWC Pilot).
ts3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 12:40 AM   #13
_speedmaster_
"TRF" Member
 
_speedmaster_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,443
Quote:
Originally Posted by subtona View Post
30k to purchase at MSRP…
5711

Without hesitation.



No flipping in mind.
Each watch must be below $10k msrp. Makes the exercise a little more interesting.
__________________
Blancpain | Chopard LUC | Grand Seiko/King Seiko | Grönefeld | Laurent Ferrier | Moritz Grossmann | Omega | Trilobe | Urban Jürgensen


instagram.com/ct_watch_guy
_speedmaster_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 04:25 AM   #14
vman
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Real Name: Capt Swerve
Location: North Carolina
Watch: less TV
Posts: 2,224
If you have 30K to spend on 3 watches and each watch must be below 10K, then there is going to be some money left over... Just saying.

My picks are as follows:

- Seiko diver for daily wear - $2K
- Speedmaster for weekly wear - $6K
- Reverso for special occasions - $9K

My reasoning is as follows. There is no need to spend a ton of money on a daily beater. The Seiko would go with me from the office to the beach. Modern Seiko divers are, essentially, what Rolex was years ago. The Speedy is a bit nicer and I'd rock it to once at week, probably on Fridays. There is nothing special about the watch other than it is probably the best chrono in the price range. Jaeger is dressy enough for modern casual environments.
__________________
Collector and buyer of Lange, VC, Patek | 2 FA Enabled
vman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 10:14 AM   #15
PBJ1925
2024 Pledge Member
 
PBJ1925's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Real Name: Jay
Location: Bay Area, CA
Watch: 326934
Posts: 2,249
JLC Duo - Model 3848422 - $9,600 MSRP (Ultimate dress watch).
Possible sub Cartier Santos

Grand Seiko White Birch - Model SLGH005 - $9,100 MSRP (Weekender).
Possible sub Blancpain FF 38mm

Zenith Chronomaster Sport - Ref 03.3100.3600 - $10,000 MSRP (Daily).
Possible sub Omega Speedy SS
PBJ1925 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 11:00 AM   #16
TimeAZ
"TRF" Member
 
TimeAZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex & Tudor
Posts: 2,110
Speedy pro sapphire
Tudor bb58 (black)
JLC reverso duo face small seconds

Chrono/diver/dress

All 3 have great heritage, class/sophistication, great quality, and represent some of the finest pieces within their respective categories.
__________________
The perfect blossom is a rare thing. You could spend your life looking for one, and it would not be a wasted life.
TimeAZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 11:04 AM   #17
rlj676
"TRF" Member
 
rlj676's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: detroit
Posts: 518
Speedy

IWC Top Gun Chrono

PAM submersible 683.

I’d love to buy all of these right now to add to my collection.
rlj676 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 11:09 AM   #18
ap1
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: usa
Posts: 18,971
Lack of originality here

Speedmaster
Cartier Santos medium or grand seiko summer
Tudor blackbay 58
ap1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 11:11 AM   #19
vipereaper30
2024 Pledge Member
 
vipereaper30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Real Name: BMF
Location: California USA
Watch: FPJ UTC
Posts: 2,216
I'm a rule breaker, one and done for me.
vipereaper30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 November 2021, 09:32 PM   #20
DVR
"TRF" Member
 
DVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Real Name: Denis
Location: Flanders, EU
Watch: Diver watches
Posts: 1,838
Glashütte Original SeaQ Panorama Date.
https://www.glashuette-original.com/...6-13-01-80-34/

Glashütte Original Seventies Chronograph
https://www.glashuette-original.com/...7-02-08-02-62/

Grand Seiko SBGA461 spring drive
https://www.grand-seiko.com/be-en/collections/sbga461g

Why:

The SeaQ is the best en nicest diver watch in existence. And I love diver watches.


The Seventies is the best looking integrated bracelet watch in existence. And the chrono caliber with the big date is a marvel.


Spring drive is an exciting and interesting technology mixing tradition with innovation. And since I love Divers so much it has to be the SBGA461.
__________________
AP - BP - UN - GO - GS - JLC - RLX
DVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 12:44 AM   #21
edhahn44
"TRF" Member
 
edhahn44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Real Name: Eduard
Location: Europe
Posts: 331
1 Nomos
1 Breitling
1 IWC or Glashütte
edhahn44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 02:48 AM   #22
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 25,958
Quote:
Originally Posted by _speedmaster_ View Post
Each watch must be below $10k msrp. Makes the exercise a little more interesting.



understood
i would offer having gone through the exercise, as well as a reasonably broad and diverse group of watches, in my experience the 5711 satisfies me the most but in the interest of the question...





panerai 111 daily beater

omega speedy iconic and legible

grand seiko sbgw253 perfect dress watch (in my collection for a relatively long time, it is a bargain that nails the design aesthetic.)

probably saved 15k on the budget with the above but they would be my choice regardless. more money doesn't always mean a better watch.







my actual go to watches at the price point below:

exp II 16570 polar

submariner 14060





ps Brew watches look fun.
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 06:35 AM   #23
_speedmaster_
"TRF" Member
 
_speedmaster_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,443
Quote:
Originally Posted by subtona View Post
understood
i would offer having gone through the exercise, as well as a reasonably broad and diverse group of watches, in my experience the 5711 satisfies me the most but in the interest of the question...





panerai 111 daily beater

omega speedy iconic and legible

grand seiko sbgw253 perfect dress watch (in my collection for a relatively long time, it is a bargain that nails the design aesthetic.)

probably saved 15k on the budget with the above but they would be my choice regardless. more money doesn't always mean a better watch.







my actual go to watches at the price point below:

exp II 16570 polar

submariner 14060





ps Brew watches look fun.
I came off way too snarky in my comment, didn't intend to. Haha
Was more curious on your sub $10k choices.
__________________
Blancpain | Chopard LUC | Grand Seiko/King Seiko | Grönefeld | Laurent Ferrier | Moritz Grossmann | Omega | Trilobe | Urban Jürgensen


instagram.com/ct_watch_guy
_speedmaster_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 11:56 AM   #24
HHIslander
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Real Name: Henry
Location: USA
Posts: 4,148
Omega SMP Diver
JLC Polaris Chrono
JLC Master Control Calendar

Daily, evening, dress
HHIslander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 12:36 PM   #25
TK-710
2024 Pledge Member
 
TK-710's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Upstate
Watch: 116600
Posts: 2,140
I have gone over by $100; but I’ll eat it.
7513ABC4-8BCB-4AA6-99C6-8BC63F1F304B.jpeg
MSRP $10,200

028A1BD9-F869-40B5-BCD1-8FEBB07D1F94.jpeg
$9,900

077D57DB-A609-4A76-8CFF-0DB79A8A0D7B.jpeg
$10,000
TK-710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 12:42 PM   #26
Malum
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Real Name: Kurt
Location: Coachella Valley
Watch: SD43 D-Blue
Posts: 3,881
Blancpain FF titanium Grande Date
CWC Automatic Diver
Omega Speedmaster Saphire Sandwich
Malum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1 December 2021, 04:15 PM   #27
subtona
"TRF" Member
 
subtona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 25,958
Quote:
Originally Posted by _speedmaster_ View Post
I came off way too snarky in my comment, didn't intend to. Haha
Was more curious on your sub $10k choices.
All good my friend
__________________
subtona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2 December 2021, 04:13 PM   #28
Justindo
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: California
Posts: 2,176
A $30k budget is healthy for a nice collection, although I would personally be looking at a 4-7 watch collection with a variety of brands, types, and price points.

Keeping to 3 pieces is more challenging but doable, although I wouldn't want to have fewer pieces. For me, a 3 watch collection means 3 versatile watches, one of which is a diver on a bracelet and two dressier watches, one on a black strap and the other on a tan strap, with at least one of them being a chronograph (my favorite complication).

What is most challenging about your question is the equal price allocation, as I would go for 1-2 more expensive watches (e.g., ALS, VC, or a complicated JLC) with the small balance going toward some less expensive watches (e.g., Tudor, Longines, Rado, Hamilton, Seiko, and Casio) with that budge.

Regardless, given your criteria, I would likely opt for the following:

JLC Reverso Classic Medium Duoface $9,350
Breitling Premier B09 Chronograph 40 Pistachio Green $8,400
Omega Seamaster 300 $6,800

I have no reservations about the JLC dual time. The color of the Breitling chronograph gives me a bit of pause in a 3 watch collection but I think it works well with greens, blues, and browns and the in-house handwind column wheel chronograph movement is difficult to beat for the price. The Omega isn't my ideal diver (I'd probably go for a Rolex Submariner in this list price range but that's not an option due to no Rolex) due to the fauxtina and polished bracelet but it's a still a great diver and I don't like dates. I thought about choosing the GO SeaQ but I don't like dates and it can't be had on a bracelet in any size for the MRSP price cap.

Thanks for the hypothetical exercise!
Justindo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 December 2021, 11:03 AM   #29
mailman
TRF Moderator & 2024 Patron
 
mailman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: .
Watch: 126610LN
Posts: 35,338
Quote:
Originally Posted by TK-710 View Post
I have gone over by $100; but I’ll eat it.
Attachment 1258062
MSRP $10,200

Attachment 1258063
$9,900

Attachment 1258064
$10,000
First one is nice but it’s the wrong size
__________________
JJ
mailman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 December 2021, 11:05 AM   #30
TK-710
2024 Pledge Member
 
TK-710's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Upstate
Watch: 116600
Posts: 2,140
Quote:
Originally Posted by mailman View Post
First one is nice but it’s the wrong size
Not all of us have redwood tree trunks for wrists!
TK-710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches

Coronet


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.