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George Costanza · 13 February 2016, 12:03 AM

I recently received my ref 96 back from service and got the Extract from the Archives as well, it was my grandfather’s watch and its been passed down. My dad always thought he bought it in the early 50s, but according to the extract from the archives it was purchased in 1948, which is pretty cool because my grandfather had to flee the Czech Republic and then fought during the war so he had nothing, and he must have done fairly well in the three years from the end of the war to when he bought this.

My question is does anyone have information on Guillermin & Co? I see here on the Extract from he Archives that it says the case “112” was provided by Guillermin & Co, and there is no registered case number from PP. It also says that the type of watch is movement only. Does this mean that the movement was purchased by Guillermin & Co, and then cased by them and sold as a Patek Philippe? Any info would be nice, I am just trying to get some info about this watch as it’s a nice piece of family history.

As a side note, my father told me that this is not the original dial because he got it serviced by Patek Philippe in Geneva about 20 years old, and they changed the seconds dial at 6 o’clock without asking if he wanted them to do that. Apparently it had a circle around the seconds sub dial before but they changed that which I think is odd of them to do, but I’ve heard stories like that before.

MCMartiny · 13 February 2016, 08:54 AM

I don't know the answers to your questions, but what a beautiful piece and complete with more than 60 years of family history. Lucky you. Wear it in good health.

watch-guy.com · 13 February 2016, 11:27 AM

No idea about guillerman and co , I suspect they were jewellers who supplied cases for movements
The case is not signed PP I would imagine
The dial is unfortunately new

The watch is a lovely heirloom

Enjoy

Julian

jmiicustomz · 14 February 2016, 01:50 PM

SWEET heirloom!!!!

jmiicustomz · 14 February 2016, 01:53 PM

http://montre24.com/brand/Guillermin...inMolletwatch/

jmiicustomz · 14 February 2016, 01:56 PM

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/w...1-details.aspx

13 February 2016, 12:03 AM	#1
George Costanza "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Theodore Location: London Watch: Rolex Posts: 32	Question about Guillermin Co in regards to a 1948 ref 96 I recently received my ref 96 back from service and got the Extract from the Archives as well, it was my grandfather’s watch and its been passed down. My dad always thought he bought it in the early 50s, but according to the extract from the archives it was purchased in 1948, which is pretty cool because my grandfather had to flee the Czech Republic and then fought during the war so he had nothing, and he must have done fairly well in the three years from the end of the war to when he bought this. My question is does anyone have information on Guillermin & Co? I see here on the Extract from he Archives that it says the case “112” was provided by Guillermin & Co, and there is no registered case number from PP. It also says that the type of watch is movement only. Does this mean that the movement was purchased by Guillermin & Co, and then cased by them and sold as a Patek Philippe? Any info would be nice, I am just trying to get some info about this watch as it’s a nice piece of family history. As a side note, my father told me that this is not the original dial because he got it serviced by Patek Philippe in Geneva about 20 years old, and they changed the seconds dial at 6 o’clock without asking if he wanted them to do that. Apparently it had a circle around the seconds sub dial before but they changed that which I think is odd of them to do, but I’ve heard stories like that before.

13 February 2016, 11:27 AM	#3
watch-guy.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: United States Posts: 501	thanks for showing No idea about guillerman and co , I suspect they were jewellers who supplied cases for movements The case is not signed PP I would imagine The dial is unfortunately new The watch is a lovely heirloom Enjoy Julian

13 February 2016, 08:54 AM	#2
MCMartiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Somewhere in time Watch: Lange & Patek Posts: 612	I don't know the answers to your questions, but what a beautiful piece and complete with more than 60 years of family history. Lucky you. Wear it in good health.

14 February 2016, 01:50 PM	#4
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	SWEET heirloom!!!!

14 February 2016, 01:53 PM	#5
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	http://montre24.com/brand/Guillermin...inMolletwatch/

14 February 2016, 01:56 PM	#6
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/w...1-details.aspx

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