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View Poll Results: Which one would you choose
5712/1A-001 155 45.32%
5711/1A-001 187 54.68%
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Old 7 July 2014, 07:02 PM   #91
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What a tough choice
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Old 7 July 2014, 09:06 PM   #92
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5712 all the way
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Old 8 July 2014, 12:30 AM   #93
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They're both great - love the moonphase. But the 5711, like the Sub Date seems like a "classic". Also, I've seen lots of 5712 in shops here in London...yet to see a 5711. AD's have told me they don't even put them in the window - just straight to customers.
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Old 8 July 2014, 04:04 AM   #94
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^might be that ten grand extra make the moonphase less desired :-)
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Old 8 July 2014, 02:56 PM   #95
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^might be that ten grand extra make the moonphase less desired :-)
Afterall, the extra $10k is enough to get an JLC MUT Moon to go with the ref.5711
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Old 20 August 2014, 09:10 AM   #96
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5712 no doubt

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Old 20 August 2014, 10:01 AM   #97
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5711 for the clean blue dial

5712 for the 240 micro rotor movement
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Old 20 August 2014, 10:12 AM   #98
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Old 20 August 2014, 03:03 PM   #99
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The minute and hour hands of the 5712 have a unique calming effect amongst the dial layout.

The 5711 with the center second hand, can never duplicate the same effect, nice as it is. They should have released it without the second hand. Maybe next year they will.

My 5711 begs and pleads for wrist time, but the 5712 won't relinquish its dominate place as #1!
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Old 21 August 2014, 01:23 PM   #100
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No, I don't really like the look of the chrono complication on the nautilus. I think the simple face of the 5711 sings to me the most.

Now, I keep waiting for DavidSW to get back to me.
Good luck, I like your choice
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Old 8 January 2015, 05:18 AM   #101
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Tough but no wrong choice here.

Personally, i prefer the classic 5711. The root of all nautiluses.
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Old 26 February 2015, 07:50 PM   #102
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Also a minor point that probably nobody cares about but the 5711 has 120m as water resistance whilst the 5712 has 60m. for a watch called "nautilus" I would expect to be able to swim with it. For complications I would not get a nautilus, I think the 5711 is the ultimate "beater"!!
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Old 26 February 2015, 07:55 PM   #103
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Also a minor point that probably nobody cares about but the 5711 has 120m as water resistance whilst the 5712 has 60m. for a watch called "nautilus" I would expect to be able to swim with it. For complications I would not get a nautilus, I think the 5711 is the ultimate "beater"!!
yes we do care and according to PP the 5712 is good for swimming , Idoubt anybody else can better judge the product limitation than the manufacturer.
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Old 27 February 2015, 12:45 AM   #104
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yes we do care and according to PP the 5712 is good for swimming , Idoubt anybody else can better judge the product limitation than the manufacturer.
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=398513

Dunno seems "borderline"!!
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Old 27 February 2015, 01:01 AM   #105
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yes same thread , read my reply #10 ,i ve asked PP they ve replied nicely.
no worry it s a great watch
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Old 27 February 2015, 01:14 AM   #106
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yes same thread , read my reply #10 ,i ve asked PP they ve replied nicely.
no worry it s a great watch
I have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that it is a fine watch, in fact every Patek is a very fine watch! just saying that the 5711 is more "swimmable" than the 5712, thats my only point really. it all depends on what the OPs priorities are!
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Old 27 February 2015, 04:34 AM   #107
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I loved reading this whole thread and seeing the differences of opinion. I was going to say Black and White opinions but perhaps.. it is a shade of blue.. Seriously though with my ADD-- I prefer the asymmetry but not what i would call unbalanced look to the 5712-- I like complications in general.. Not to say the 5711 is not nice but I would take the 5712 over the 5711.
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Old 27 February 2015, 01:05 PM   #108
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I originally wrote off the 5711 and 5712 as my grails because all of my local Patek ADs basically told me I'd never get one due to demand, but now I'm considering it again in hopes that I might be able to find a dealer willing to sell one to someone who hasn't bought Pateks before. I'm having the same dilemma choosing between them (and between either of them and the watches I'd sell to fund the acquisition). The clean, iconic 5711 that highlights the gorgeous blue dial, or the complicated 5712 with micro-rotor for only a bit more money. Tough call! Good luck to you with your choice and with finding one!
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Old 13 March 2015, 04:44 PM   #109
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Having already a 5712 would it be totally ridiculous to also get 5711 blue dial to add to the collection? Does anyone have both and like having two similar but uniquely elegant pieces? Have to make a quick decision is my AD just called with an option to pick up a 5711.
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Old 13 March 2015, 08:27 PM   #110
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Having already a 5712 would it be totally ridiculous to also get 5711 blue dial to add to the collection? Does anyone have both and like having two similar but uniquely elegant pieces? Have to make a quick decision is my AD just called with an option to pick up a 5711.
Just to get a call for a 5711, no doubt on going for it, yes! I have two 5980 with different personalities and have no regrets. At least you have a different dial both being stunning.
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Old 13 March 2015, 08:47 PM   #111
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The 5712 is hard to beat.
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Old 13 March 2015, 11:20 PM   #112
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You would be less confused if choosing between a 5712 and. 5726 both with bracelet.... Closer to apples and apples instead of apples and oranges
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Old 14 March 2015, 12:09 AM   #113
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I originally wrote off the 5711 and 5712 as my grails because all of my local Patek ADs basically told me I'd never get one due to demand, but now I'm considering it again in hopes that I might be able to find a dealer willing to sell one to someone who hasn't bought Pateks before. I'm having the same dilemma choosing between them (and between either of them and the watches I'd sell to fund the acquisition). The clean, iconic 5711 that highlights the gorgeous blue dial, or the complicated 5712 with micro-rotor for only a bit more money. Tough call! Good luck to you with your choice and with finding one!
Writing off a "grail" because an AD can't get them is rather extreme. Plenty new or used available at RRP or less from trusted sellers on here and in the "real world" out there
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Old 18 March 2015, 12:52 AM   #114
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Writing off a "grail" because an AD can't get them is rather extreme. Plenty new or used available at RRP or less from trusted sellers on here and in the "real world" out there

Agreed!
Write off your "grail" because it will take eight months for a routine service! Ask me how I know.
Then ask me why the flick I bought a more complicated model in the Nautilus line...
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Old 18 March 2015, 02:10 AM   #115
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Depends what already have , if only going have one steel sports patek then can't beat the 5711. If own others like 5167 then I would go for 5712. You get stunning blue dial and interesting micro rotor movement to look at . I would not base my choice on what was easier to get though , if Grail watch it's worth the wait
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Old 18 March 2015, 04:35 AM   #116
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Of course 5712, it's the same watch but with complications, if you like the dial display get it you will love it, I love mine, it's a great watch, or a 5726 is also really cool, annual calendar and moon phase in a "sports" watch, very cool IMO
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Old 18 March 2015, 02:35 PM   #117
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plain and simple dial go for 5711, more function complication 5712
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Old 18 March 2015, 06:31 PM   #118
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I must agree with you my friend, the 5712 is my all-time favorite Nautilus, I would definitely choose it over a 5711!
Definitely my all time favorite also, I love my 5726 on strap but the 5712 will always be my favorite of the 2, even if I just got the 5726 2 months ago, it's a great watch, like a 5711 with nice complications, love the moon phase and the PR is always useful if you have more than one watch and don't want to reset the date and moon phase, you just wind it up when it's close to zero, to the max and it's ok, it's not indispensable but very useful and would like to have one on the 5726
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Old 18 March 2015, 06:37 PM   #119
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Having already a 5712 would it be totally ridiculous to also get 5711 blue dial to add to the collection? Does anyone have both and like having two similar but uniquely elegant pieces? Have to make a quick decision is my AD just called with an option to pick up a 5711.
Well I'm not sure I would because they are really close and for me the 5712 is nicer, I'm afraid you will put all the time the 5712 and rarely the 5711, I thought about the same thing and decided they are really too close, but that's just me, as always do like you want, get it if you really like it and think they could live together in a nice harmony
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Old 18 March 2015, 06:56 PM   #120
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The minute and hour hands of the 5712 have a unique calming effect amongst the dial layout.

The 5711 with the center second hand, can never duplicate the same effect, nice as it is. They should have released it without the second hand. Maybe next year they will.

My 5711 begs and pleads for wrist time, but the 5712 won't relinquish its dominate place as #1!
I can imagine, if I had both the 5712 would get 90% wrist time...

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Well I don't intend on swimming with mine, why take the risk of hitting it against the pool side or scratch it on sand I think...

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I originally wrote off the 5711 and 5712 as my grails because all of my local Patek ADs basically told me I'd never get one due to demand, but now I'm considering it again in hopes that I might be able to find a dealer willing to sell one to someone who hasn't bought Pateks before. I'm having the same dilemma choosing between them (and between either of them and the watches I'd sell to fund the acquisition). The clean, iconic 5711 that highlights the gorgeous blue dial, or the complicated 5712 with micro-rotor for only a bit more money. Tough call! Good luck to you with your choice and with finding one!
I wouldn't have wrote them off because of that, especially on chrono 24 you have new ones available without the wait

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The 5712 is hard to beat.
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Writing off a "grail" because an AD can't get them is rather extreme. Plenty new or used available at RRP or less from trusted sellers on here and in the "real world" out there
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