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Old 8 October 2013, 10:15 AM   #121
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First, which Patek's costing 10x as much contain this movement, be specific.
Not 10x, but the:

5496P Perpetual Calendar Retrograde Date (Platinum / Silver / Leather Strap) $115700.00

is a healthy 5.7x multiple and contains the same base movement according to Patek's site.
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Old 8 October 2013, 10:50 AM   #122
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The 5167 is a great watch...period. Just because is less expensive than other PP does not make them less desirable. I believe the BMW 3 series models are some of the best handling cars that BMW makes, as is the Boxter/Cayman to Porsche. For many, the simplicity of the design is more desirable than some less attractive but more expensive models.

Personally, my Aquanaut is getting 90% wrist time and my 4 Rolex (Daytona, Sub-C, GMT II BLNR, YM Blue, and Panerai 392 are now mostly sitting in the watch box. For me, like many of you, it's a game changer, and gateway drug into the PP world.
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Old 8 October 2013, 12:15 PM   #123
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Hi all I'm new to this forum. Decided to buy a PP for my 38 birthday and have been doing some research. Now deciding between the aquanaut and the nautilus. Of course the aquanaut is a more comfortable budget but yet I'm hoping to get one that has a better resale value in case times are hard ( one can never be too sure nowadays). So wondering if there's any advise on which will be a better investment choice. Also, I've snooped around and realize there's a range of PP watches called the Black Venom. Are those a good choice for cos I really love the look of black on the watch. I'm tempted to get a piece of that which I understand is in limited edition. But I'm worried that it may not have good value in the long run. Any advise is appreciated. Www.blackvenomwatch.com
As an investment or where you are at all bothered by resale value these mods are a very bad idea. I have no idea how pp would look on a modded watch when it comes to service. Probably not very well. Complete no-no as far as I'm concerned. For a Rolex perhaps not as bad as you'll prob find someone to service it but for a Patek I wouldn't count on it. Besides, it looks naff.


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Old 9 October 2013, 12:08 PM   #124
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Old 9 October 2013, 01:45 PM   #125
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thx for sharing. one of my all time favorites!
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Old 9 October 2013, 07:43 PM   #126
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I have to agree, I have several different great watches and two PP, and my favorite is my 5164 Aquanaut. Love the look and feel of this model. I also love the nicely done new complication.

This would be my choice, but Id probably get the Naut first.
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Old 9 October 2013, 10:17 PM   #127
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As an investment or where you are at all bothered by resale value these mods are a very bad idea. I have no idea how pp would look on a modded watch when it comes to service. Probably not very well. Complete no-no as far as I'm concerned. For a Rolex perhaps not as bad as you'll prob find someone to service it but for a Patek I wouldn't count on it. Besides, it looks naff.


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thanks for your reply... so the so called "black Venom" is a mod... for a while, i thought it's a limited edition range that is endorsed by PP itself....ok, i shall go on my hunt for the perfect Aquanaut before my BD which is barely weeks away. 5167 is what i'm eyeing on right now... and i have to admit that it grows on you especially after reading though the threads knowing how you guys love that watch.
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Old 11 October 2013, 02:31 AM   #128
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thanks for your reply... so the so called "black Venom" is a mod... for a while, i thought it's a limited edition range that is endorsed by PP itself....ok, i shall go on my hunt for the perfect Aquanaut before my BD which is barely weeks away. 5167 is what i'm eyeing on right now... and i have to admit that it grows on you especially after reading though the threads knowing how you guys love that watch.
That would have been terrrible if you went ahead without realizing it wasnt a piece from the manufacturer.
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Old 11 October 2013, 03:23 AM   #129
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Love mine but if only...

It were more reliable. It's now on its 3rd trip back to the factory in 4 years to fix what seems to be the same problem, namely a slipping clutch on the winding mechanism.

I'm getting ticked - none of my other watches have had this frequency of problems. Let's hope the factory can fix it once and for all.
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Old 11 October 2013, 03:32 AM   #130
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I hear about these problems, but mine has run perfectly. No issues at all and keeps perfect-to-the-second time!
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Old 26 October 2013, 10:28 PM   #131
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After now owning one of these pieces I cannot understand why I paid as much as I did for it. 20K for a watch is just crazy. It's bad enough that a decent Rolex is $7-8K but I can somewhat justify that since it is well made and can take all kinds of abuse. I am selling my Patek today and donating the $$ to charity.
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Old 26 October 2013, 11:16 PM   #132
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After now owning one of these pieces I cannot understand why I paid as much as I did for it. 20K for a watch is just crazy. It's bad enough that a decent Rolex is $7-8K but I can somewhat justify that since it is well made and can take all kinds of abuse. I am selling my Patek today and donating the $$ to charity.
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....When I say "low end" IMO, $21K is easily attainable for a watch.

Finally, the date sticking issue is a real problem with these watches. Who spends 21K for that ? Seriously... These watches are not respected come auction time.

Seems to be some contradiction

Anyway, i think it is a beautiful watch
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Old 26 October 2013, 11:29 PM   #133
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Not a fan of the Aquanaut but nice review.
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Old 27 October 2013, 01:06 PM   #134
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thanks for your reply... so the so called "black Venom" is a mod... for a while, i thought it's a limited edition range that is endorsed by PP itself....ok, i shall go on my hunt for the perfect Aquanaut before my BD which is barely weeks away. 5167 is what i'm eyeing on right now... and i have to admit that it grows on you especially after reading though the threads knowing how you guys love that watch.
Orbaka, the 5167 is a beautiful watch. I would say seriously consider it for your BD, but try it out at your local AD first.
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Old 12 November 2013, 03:05 PM   #135
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Old 14 November 2013, 11:31 PM   #136
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Hi all. I wear my Aquanaut daily and and as a result the dial and clasp are quite scratched. I'm wondering if anyone has found a sevice method for removing / buffing out some of these surface scratches. Does a standard trip to an authorized service center help? Thanks in advance.
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Old 18 November 2013, 11:18 PM   #137
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Hi all. I wear my Aquanaut daily and and as a result the dial and clasp are quite scratched. I'm wondering if anyone has found a sevice method for removing / buffing out some of these surface scratches. Does a standard trip to an authorized service center help? Thanks in advance.
Post a pic of the scratches

when it's service time patek will polish it to factory specs
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Old 30 January 2014, 07:51 PM   #138
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It's coming!

It's been three months since my first and last post. And I'm glad to report that mt aquanaut is finally arriving! In less than 24 hours. After few months of checking around, from Singapore to Hong Kong, New York to Frankfurt. I finally managed to lay my hands on a piece from Frankfurt. By tomorrow, this will be on my wrist! My biggest purchase to date and boy! I'm excited beyond words!
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Old 30 January 2014, 09:04 PM   #139
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i love the aquanaut , so clean and simple , now the older versions are getting more into my price range im seriously tempted , but even an older version in stainless on a rubber strap with a solid case back is the price of a gold president ,,
i think if i was to spend the money id have to save a bit more to get to the saphire case back ,,, thats what makes it even more special , i dont know how you guys manage to do much of anything else other than look at the movement ,,, stunning pics on this thread , thanks guys.
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Old 30 January 2014, 11:40 PM   #140
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It's been three months since my first and last post. And I'm glad to report that mt aquanaut is finally arriving! In less than 24 hours. After few months of checking around, from Singapore to Hong Kong, New York to Frankfurt. I finally managed to lay my hands on a piece from Frankfurt. By tomorrow, this will be on my wrist! My biggest purchase to date and boy! I'm excited beyond words!
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Old 4 February 2014, 02:41 PM   #141
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It's been three months since my first and last post. And I'm glad to report that mt aquanaut is finally arriving! In less than 24 hours. After few months of checking around, from Singapore to Hong Kong, New York to Frankfurt. I finally managed to lay my hands on a piece from Frankfurt. By tomorrow, this will be on my wrist! My biggest purchase to date and boy! I'm excited beyond words!
Congrats on the acquisition of this fine watch! Frankfurt ADs typically have low inventory of PP watches due to heavy tourist purchases, but you must have gotten lucky. Enjoy and post some pics!
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Old 4 February 2014, 09:18 PM   #142
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Puffy, nice review and handsome photographs as usual man! Thanks so much for sharing. You're a top guy
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Old 5 February 2014, 09:00 AM   #143
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Old 8 February 2014, 02:10 PM   #144
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Great review. Looking closely at both Aquanaut models and like them both honestly. Love the complication of the travel time but also love the simple, clean look of the 5167.

I'm trying not to have the difference in price push me but it's something that also has to be taken into consideration as always! But honestly, after seeing the 5176 today and trying it on for the first time, your comments on the dial are so true...
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Old 13 March 2014, 02:44 PM   #145
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Thank you for the review, you inspired me to get it when i was in doubt!


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Old 23 February 2015, 01:17 AM   #146
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I hate to bring up an old post, but I just got one of these, and I really don't know why I have been screwing around with anything else. This is simply the best watch I have ever owned for practical daily wear.
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Old 23 February 2015, 01:30 AM   #147
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I hate to bring up an old post, but I just got one of these, and I really don't know why I have been screwing around with anything else. This is simply the best watch I have ever owned for practical daily wear.
Congrats

I'm picking up mine in May and hoping it has the same effect

Might have to sell some other pieces if it does.


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Old 24 April 2015, 02:09 AM   #148
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I love this watch. I haven't had one in hand yet. How is the detail of the dail? Any flaws, etc?
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Old 24 April 2015, 11:42 AM   #149
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This one really shows off the subtle color of the Dial... What would you call it?

Oh! and thanks for the great review. I've only just started liking Patek, and the Rubber straps make it a go anywhere, do anything watch, which appeals to me...

Lastly, is the movement a robust one?
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Very nice indeed!!! I'd like to pull the trigger on a PP too, but at the moment, I yet unable to convince my brain to spend $20-$30k on a SS watch when I can get a gold Rollie for a similar price. Heart says PP but brain says go for gold lol ...
I was thinking the same thing but if it feels better on the wrist, I'd rather have 3 very nice watches than 6 just nice watches...lol

How about this one?
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