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10 September 2012, 07:06 PM | #31 |
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couldn't agree more...
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Great thread
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john mayer wearing 5205G-010
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charlie sheen's 5970
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reese witherspoon's husband wearing nautilus probably 5711
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21 September 2012, 09:04 PM | #36 |
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Look at the way he's dressed! Very casual, almost "I'm going hitch hiking"-ish...
...It clearly shows you how versatile a Patek is! I think it suits his clothes very well! P.S.: I have nothing against the way he dresses, quite the contrary!
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john mayer another day another patek not sure bout refrence maybe 5970 can anyone chime in
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That's a great picture of Witherspoon. She looks fabulous /very cute pregnant and the smile on her husbands face says it all!
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andrea pirlo and nautilus
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Wow Lennon, never knew that. I wonder that that would go for at auction?
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The Aquanaut is growing on me tremendously!!
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Brad Pitt and his 5711
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Their look is terrible - clothes that speak to no style, "I couldn't care less about how I look". What is he doing dressing like a bum and what's with that hat?? That's what's wrong with society today, public people, the ones that are "idols" for others are setting a terrible example. Where is the pride in making money and dressing like you've made it? |
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great snaps, keep them coming
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Awesome pics.
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I'm not saying one has to wear a suit to go to baseball game but society sure has gone down hill quite a lot since then.
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As far as I'm concerned I don't judge people by the way they dress, let alone those celebrities. I'll admit I think this outfit fits him well, whether he's worth millions of dollars or not. People can wear whatever they want as long as they're happy. ...Yet again, perhaps I have no sense of style or fashion at all. After all, I am a big fan of those gentlemen below and they don't wear Armani and Versace suits everyday...
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One doesn't have to be rich to dress in a manner in which we show how much we care about how we look.
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Who cares?
This is not your Grandfather's generation - time moves on thankfully. If my music and movie stars want to dress casually that's fine by me - I prefer to create my own style not copy what some movie star wears.
I like the fact that you can wear a 5270 with a pair of jeans and t-shirt, and wear a 5167 with a suit and French cuffs. You make your own rules rather than mindlessly following out of date conventions. |
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I for one buy and wear clothes I like and I don't think I strictly follow any style. Sure, I do take some advice from people around me (in fact, I took a lot of great advice in the attire thread of this very forum) and I keep an open mind if somebody tells me this or that piece of clothing would suit me but if I don't like it I don't buy it to please somebody else. All in all, I'd rather let people judge me on my personality and what I do than what I wear and I'd rather do the very same with the others, whether they are celebrities or not. Quote:
EDIT: Please accept my apologies for hijacking this thread, it is not my intention and I do strongly hope my comments don't offend anybody.
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Personally, I don't get what the fuss is about for a movement Patek didn't 100% make, except that people panic when a watch is discontinued, and hope to cash in on it somehow. Rarity, perhaps, but for a non-in-house piece it seems ludicrous to me. Though, it doesn't meet my collecting criteria, and thus is of no value to me, so I guess I am unfairly biased. I wouldn't buy a Zenith Dayona either! |
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However, I must respectfully disagree with you on two points: the 5970, 5070 and those pre in-house Patek's aren't expensive just because they are discontinued, they were also made in a very little quantity, hence their massive price raises as soon as they got discontinued versus, say, a Rolex reference that is being discontinued but is still marked on millions of watches all around the world. As for the comparison with the prices of the actual models, I guess you are right when you say that the raise makes the model A the same price as his B cousin with an in-house movement. Still, the fact remains that the price of that very model doubled and that you are comparing a model that is, again, very rare to a model that is expensive because, indeed, of its in-house movement but also, and let's face it, because of price increases that are, sometimes (and without wanting to offend anybody), questionable to say the least.
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It doesn't seem uncommon for the more complicated older watches to jump up in price significantly as the newer complicated watches jump up in price, at least with Patek. Some more so than others for sure. Rarety may play some part in that sometimes, as well as discontinuation panic, but considering this particular model is not an in-house movement it is still foolish to me. The demand being created by the rarity of a piece that is not in-house is specious IMO. There are rare Patek watches that are completely representative of Patek. I can appreciate the accelerated values of those watches. |
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I can appreciate that rarity drives collectible markets, but only if there is demand for that item. I have no interest in that model, for reasons already mentioned that bias me against it, so I don't see much value in it. I think demand is sometimes driven by panic as well, such as the discontinuation of a model. Since my friend isn't selling his 5070s at the inflated prices, I have to wonder if it was a trend driven by the confluence of those factors. I guess we will find out over time. Patek obviously saw value in moving to all in-house; there must be something desirable about it, since they are likely spending more money to make that switch than to outsource the work. Then again, I don't see much value in the Zenith Daytona either and they are highly inflated in some used markets compared to their initial pricings... |
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I also think owning the first in a new line of in-house movements is prestigious, such as the 5050. You get to watch all the changes that take place in future iterations of the movement, while enjoying where they all began. I would love to have a 5050 at some point in the future....
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I'd like to think that making in-house movements and their new Patek Philippe seal were developped with the idea of making things much better but given the notorious quality control that Patek kept improving since 1839 I'm starting to think that the value of a discontinued model has been raised by the hype of collectors as much as the value of an in-house movement has been raised by marketing. As for the 5050, I guess I'm biased as well as it's not my favorite model but I do get where you come from when you say that owning a model from the first in-house generation can be considered prestigious. On the other hand (and while I know you are not a non in-house enthusiast), couldn't it be just as prestigious to get a model from the last non in-house generation?
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Collecting, rarity, and demand scenarios always reminds me of Don Mattingly's 1984 rookie card. At one point it was $75 plus! Now it is low $20s... At a particular time and place it had an absurdly inflated market demand because of a confluence of factors. Is that the case here? I don't know. Only time will tell (punny...). I buy what I like using my collecting criteria, that way I value what I buy no matter how the prices appreciate or depreciate.
I actually have three or four 1984 Mattingly cards in my collection. I wish I sold them while the market was up. They won't ever be that price again in my lifetime.... |
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