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myopiccoog · 22 September 2012, 11:06 PM

I am starting to debate my next Patek purchase. I am dead set on either getting the 5970 or the new 5270. I like the 5970r aesthetically the most and the 5970p the second most but there is a big difference in price. I am debating going with the new 5270. Obviously it is only made in white at this time. I would love your overall thoughts and thoughts on short and long term collectibility of each piece. Thanks in advance!

HL65 · 22 September 2012, 11:43 PM

For me it is really simple: 5970P all the way followed by the 5970G and R. The 5270 is nice but to me the 5970 is the one to own without a doubt! Just my opinion and in terms of collectiblity for sure. All are nice at that level and you can't go wrong with any of them. Cheers,

Yoda · 22 September 2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

For me it is really simple: 5970P all the way followed by the 5970G and R. The 5270 is nice but to me the 5970 is the one to own without a doubt! Just my opinion and in terms of collectiblity for sure. All are nice at that level and you can't go wrong with any of them. Cheers,

X2. Yes Ken the elusive 5970P. One day. ....

HL65 · 22 September 2012, 11:51 PM

Yoda · 22 September 2012, 11:55 PM

You know my rules Ken, where one goes.... Lol.

HL65 · 22 September 2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

You know my rules Ken, where one goes.... Lol.

A little temptation for you my friend!

FeelingTheBlues · 23 September 2012, 02:48 AM

I'll have tp go with Highlander on this one!

A busier dial perhaps but a classic nonetheless! Both are nice but I think I have a preference for the 5970 (in yellow or rose gold for me though)!

hutchman · 23 September 2012, 04:30 AM

If I could only choose only one of the two it would be the 5270G. IMO it is far superior technically and better looking as well!

If you're looking for an investment buy the 5970!

FeelingTheBlues · 23 September 2012, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hutchman

If I could only choose only one of the two it would be the 5270G. IMO it is far superior technically and better looking as well!

If you're looking for an investment buy the 5970!

That's just amazing Mike! Do you own both?

hutchman · 23 September 2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

That's just amazing Mike! Do you own both?

Thank you! Yes I own both!

HL65 · 23 September 2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hutchman

Thank you! Yes I own both!

Lucky man!!

hutchman · 23 September 2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Lucky man!!

Thank you but you own several watches I'm very jealous of specifically your 5070p and your Lange!

PatekCollector · 23 September 2012, 08:13 AM

Both are great but I'd choose 5270G (in fact I did). :)

HL65 · 23 September 2012, 09:47 AM

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Thank you but you own several watches I'm very jealous of specifically your 5070p and your Lange!

Thanks Mike!

Too bad we aren't neighbors--we could share!

myopiccoog · 23 September 2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hutchman

Thank you! Yes I own both!

Mike, I know th 5270 I a mm bigger. People say it feels much larger than the 5970. My only issue with pateks is that most feel smaller than the mm or smaller than say a Rolex at he same mm. I don't have that issue with my 5980r. Thoughts?

Ps- thanks for all the perspectives

HL65 · 23 September 2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

Mike, I know th 5270 I a mm bigger. People say it feels much larger than the 5970. My only issue with pateks is that most feel smaller than the mm or smaller than say a Rolex at he same mm. I don't have that issue with my 5980r. Thoughts?

Ps- thanks for all the perspectives

Actually the 5970 is 42mm and the 5270 is 42mm. My 5070P is same size as 5970P and it wears perfectly!!

onkyo · 23 September 2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hutchman

If I could only choose only one of the two it would be the 5270G. IMO it is far superior technically and better looking as well!

If you're looking for an investment buy the 5970!

You are my idol ......

hutchman · 23 September 2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks Mike!

Too bad we aren't neighbors--we could share!

I thought the same thing!

hutchman · 23 September 2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

Mike, I know th 5270 I a mm bigger. People say it feels much larger than the 5970. My only issue with pateks is that most feel smaller than the mm or smaller than say a Rolex at he same mm. I don't have that issue with my 5980r. Thoughts?

Ps- thanks for all the perspectives

The 5270 wears much bigger than the 5970. It's substantially longer and the dial is far bigger!

HL65 · 23 September 2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hutchman

I thought the same thing!

paverman · 24 September 2012, 01:27 AM

I love the look of the 5970 and kick myself for not having gotten it when I had the chance. Having said that, I still prefer the clean look and larger size of the 5270 even better. Some of the aurguements previously posted regarding the collectibility of the 5970 are certainly true, at least until the 5270 is retired off into the sunset, than we'll be talking about how great a collectors piece that is.
Either one would be a grail piece in most collections, so from that angle I don't believe there's a wrong choice here.

For those that have both, all I can say is you're very fortunate and I'm very jealous

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nick c · 24 September 2012, 01:40 AM

just stunning

FeelingTheBlues · 24 September 2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks Mike!

Too bad we aren't neighbors--we could share!

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Originally Posted by hutchman

I thought the same thing!

That's funny guys, I keep telling myself the same thing...

HL65 · 24 September 2012, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

That's funny guys, I keep telling myself the same thing...

TSW · 24 September 2012, 02:48 AM

5970 for me too!

myopiccoog · 3 October 2012, 09:32 AM

I am going to see both on Thursday in NYC

Sam Philip · 3 October 2012, 09:39 AM

I would get the 5970p

Akiva0552 · 3 October 2012, 07:02 PM

The 5270 is a superior and complete in-house Patek movement. That is why there is a significant price difference. Both are beautiful though.

HL65 · 3 October 2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Akiva0552

The 5270 is a superior and complete in-house Patek movement. That is why there is a significant price difference. Both are beautiful though.

That is why the 5970P costs more you mean? There is a significant price difference except it is the other way around....Sorry.

FeelingTheBlues · 4 October 2012, 12:05 AM

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That is why the 5970P costs more you mean? There is a significant price difference except it is the other way around....Sorry.

Perhaps he is talking about the difference in retail prices? I know the 5970 is much more expensive but wasn't it cheaper when it came out (say, if you compare both prices on a price list)?

I'm just trying to guess because I know the older models (such as the 5970 and your 5070) don't come cheap...

22 September 2012, 11:06 PM	#1
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	5970 vs 5270? I am starting to debate my next Patek purchase. I am dead set on either getting the 5970 or the new 5270. I like the 5970r aesthetically the most and the 5970p the second most but there is a big difference in price. I am debating going with the new 5270. Obviously it is only made in white at this time. I would love your overall thoughts and thoughts on short and long term collectibility of each piece. Thanks in advance!

22 September 2012, 11:43 PM	#2
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,401	For me it is really simple: 5970P all the way followed by the 5970G and R. The 5270 is nice but to me the 5970 is the one to own without a doubt! Just my opinion and in terms of collectiblity for sure. All are nice at that level and you can't go wrong with any of them. Cheers, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

22 September 2012, 11:51 PM	#4
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,401	__________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

23 September 2012, 02:48 AM	#7
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	I'll have tp go with Highlander on this one! A busier dial perhaps but a classic nonetheless! Both are nice but I think I have a preference for the 5970 (in yellow or rose gold for me though)! __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

23 September 2012, 04:30 AM	#8
hutchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Real Name: Mike Watch: All things Patek Posts: 515	If I could only choose only one of the two it would be the 5270G. IMO it is far superior technically and better looking as well! If you're looking for an investment buy the 5970! __________________ "There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count, and those who can't" Warren Buffett

22 September 2012, 11:55 PM	#5
Yoda Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Watch: PP AP RM Posts: 794	You know my rules Ken, where one goes.... Lol.

23 September 2012, 08:13 AM	#13
PatekCollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Khalid Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,328	Both are great but I'd choose 5270G (in fact I did). :) __________________ Life is too short, to waste time hating anyone!. Instagram: @PatekCollector

24 September 2012, 01:27 AM	#21
paverman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Ken Location: Illinois Watch: Too many Posts: 2,869	I love the look of the 5970 and kick myself for not having gotten it when I had the chance. Having said that, I still prefer the clean look and larger size of the 5270 even better. Some of the aurguements previously posted regarding the collectibility of the 5970 are certainly true, at least until the 5270 is retired off into the sunset, than we'll be talking about how great a collectors piece that is. Either one would be a grail piece in most collections, so from that angle I don't believe there's a wrong choice here. For those that have both, all I can say is you're very fortunate and I'm very jealous .

24 September 2012, 01:40 AM	#22
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	just stunning

24 September 2012, 02:48 AM	#25
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	5970 for me too! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

3 October 2012, 09:32 AM	#26
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	I am going to see both on Thursday in NYC

3 October 2012, 09:39 AM	#27
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	I would get the 5970p

3 October 2012, 07:02 PM	#28
Akiva0552 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2	The 5270 is a superior and complete in-house Patek movement. That is why there is a significant price difference. Both are beautiful though.

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