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7Kenhinho · 26 March 2018, 12:11 PM

Are the dials from the 4 digit reference DJ's interchangeable with the dials of the 5 digit references?

Just want to know the flexibility of changing dials on these models.

sensui · 26 March 2018, 12:15 PM

They are not.

Vlad · 26 March 2018, 11:41 PM

dials for cal 15xx will not fit cal 3xxx

7Kenhinho · 27 March 2018, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad

dials for cal 15xx will not fit cal 3xxx

Ok, thanks.

Now, just to make sure, if I have a ref 16xxx datejust then I can get any 16xxx datejust dials to replace the original, correct?

In addition, how can I tell a 16xxx reference dial from a four digit one?

coelacanthus · 27 March 2018, 04:42 AM

I believe Turn-O-Graph model dials are ever so slightly smaller than non TOG Datejust dials due to having rotating bezel. Probably you want to double check before you buy because that generation of TOG doesn't have the designation on the dial.

The moose · 27 March 2018, 05:13 AM

The 4 digit dials will have the pie pan dial feature, with a different edge the 5 digit dials that are totally flat...the only dial I have seen that’s totally flat and fits four digits is the Buckley dial...but I might be wrong...

Vlad · 27 March 2018, 06:58 AM

Curvature of the case dictates the shape of the dial. I believe all 16xx dials are pie-pan - including buckley style dials. 15xx (i.e. date models, not datejust) are flat.

By the way, what ever happened to John?

7Kenhinho · 27 March 2018, 08:20 AM

Ok thank you all very much for the help. I'll stick with looking for a five digit dial. Besides, five digit dials will be easier than to find the older dials alongside better condition.

motoikkyu · 29 March 2018, 03:14 AM

The dial options in the flat (quick-set, 5-digit) dials are many more than the 16XX pie pans with one exception: you can't get a Wide-Boy dial for the quick-set. As for the 1625(TOG, Thunderbird), don't even try: they are scarce and the standard 16XX dials will not fit. That is, they will fit, but the watch can't be re-assembled because the movement ends up sticking out in the back. If that sounds like unfortunate experience talking...you'd be correct.

The moose · 29 March 2018, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad

Curvature of the case dictates the shape of the dial. I believe all 16xx dials are pie-pan - including buckley style dials. 15xx (i.e. date models, not datejust) are flat.

By the way, what ever happened to John?

Seems you are correct! At first glance the 1601 Buckley dial seemed flat:

But from the side it sure looks like they have somewhat of a pie pan feature:

26 March 2018, 12:11 PM	#1
7Kenhinho Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: NYC Watch: Datejust Posts: 92	Swapping Datejust dials - 4 digit vs 5 digit ref Are the dials from the 4 digit reference DJ's interchangeable with the dials of the 5 digit references? Just want to know the flexibility of changing dials on these models.

29 March 2018, 03:14 AM	#9
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,731	The dial options in the flat (quick-set, 5-digit) dials are many more than the 16XX pie pans with one exception: you can't get a Wide-Boy dial for the quick-set. As for the 1625(TOG, Thunderbird), don't even try: they are scarce and the standard 16XX dials will not fit. That is, they will fit, but the watch can't be re-assembled because the movement ends up sticking out in the back. If that sounds like unfortunate experience talking...you'd be correct. __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

26 March 2018, 12:15 PM	#2
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	They are not.

26 March 2018, 11:41 PM	#3
Vlad "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 813	dials for cal 15xx will not fit cal 3xxx

27 March 2018, 04:42 AM	#5
coelacanthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: SF, CA, USA Posts: 148	I believe Turn-O-Graph model dials are ever so slightly smaller than non TOG Datejust dials due to having rotating bezel. Probably you want to double check before you buy because that generation of TOG doesn't have the designation on the dial.

27 March 2018, 05:13 AM	#6
The moose Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: USA Posts: 968	The 4 digit dials will have the pie pan dial feature, with a different edge the 5 digit dials that are totally flat...the only dial I have seen that’s totally flat and fits four digits is the Buckley dial...but I might be wrong...

27 March 2018, 06:58 AM	#7
Vlad "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 813	Curvature of the case dictates the shape of the dial. I believe all 16xx dials are pie-pan - including buckley style dials. 15xx (i.e. date models, not datejust) are flat. By the way, what ever happened to John?

27 March 2018, 08:20 AM	#8
7Kenhinho Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: NYC Watch: Datejust Posts: 92	Ok thank you all very much for the help. I'll stick with looking for a five digit dial. Besides, five digit dials will be easier than to find the older dials alongside better condition.

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