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Old 7 December 2018, 09:21 AM   #31
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This is really a beyond discussion. The watch will never fund your retirement sealed or open. Just wear it.
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Old 7 December 2018, 09:56 AM   #32
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I never warmed to the idea of buying a watch sealed just to keep in a safe and not wear.

I do understand that some people do it for "investment" purposes, or just to say that they own that watch, but these ways of thinking are flawed for these reasons:

1) Investment: Watch investing, in the long run, is like shooting in the dark - you never know which ones will be desirable down the road.

If you want a real investment, it is better to buy something that actually creates output for the economy, say buy a business at a good price, or land where you can grow food or build facilities.

2) To own just say you have it: Honestly, nobody really cares if you own that watch, more so nobody cares that it's in your safe. Those that truly matter in your life could not care less about your watch, and those who do care probably hate you a little deep inside because they are secretly jealous.

Wear the watch because it is cool, because it gives you that extra sense of coolness when you're wearing it. You can't take it with you when you die, and a watch sitting in a safe/box for nobody to appreciate is just plain sad. Give it to a museum instead.
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Old 7 December 2018, 10:04 AM   #33
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[QUOTE=fastmd;9147548]

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Perfectly said. Besides, if you don't intend to sell the watch, this whole discussion becomes moot. What is left is your pleasure in getting the watch you wanted - a perfect condition 5070 to enjoy.[/QUOTE

My plan is not sell if, but don’t know about my son, you know the whole “you never own a Patek thing”, lol.



Yes



Thanks Brother!

I was thinking I should call you because you are so close.

But it was last minute because I was in Philly, by the time my helicopter landed in city it was only 3 lots away and I already missed some other pieces I was interested in. I just stayed on board and bid.
Congrats on the 5070

Love it - if you’re travelling by helicopter you simply need that 5070 on your wrist!
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Old 7 December 2018, 10:05 AM   #34
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Definitely wear it and enjoy it.
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Old 7 December 2018, 12:17 PM   #35
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Mission accomplished, congrats! I'd wear and enjoy this exact piece you wanted. You only go around once.
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Old 7 December 2018, 12:36 PM   #36
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Wear it. If you aren't planning to sell it anyway, there is no point in denying yourself the pleasure of having it on your wrist.
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Old 7 December 2018, 09:20 PM   #37
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Congrats! Unless you bought it as a pure investment (which it doesn’t seem), def open and enjoy it!


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Old 8 December 2018, 03:04 AM   #38
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Try to find a beater first. If price almost the same or does not make sense then open the sealed one =) Give yourself say 3 months to 6 months.
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Old 8 December 2018, 03:18 AM   #39
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For me I buy watches I love and hope to retain or earn on it as a bonus.

If you bought it to purely speculate, then of course stick it in the safe. No different than buying some gold or silver.

Otherwise, open it, wear it and enjoy it. You won't lose that much by opening it.
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Old 8 December 2018, 04:16 AM   #40
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I personally wouldn’t buy a watch I didn’t intend on wearing.


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Can’t agree more
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Old 8 December 2018, 04:31 AM   #41
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Overwhelming response to break out the scissors.

I agree at this point. I waited so long to find the right one it deserves a nice single malt so I can enjoy the moment. Because, shortly after I will probably start the search for my next grail....
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Old 8 December 2018, 04:36 AM   #42
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Overwhelming response to break out the scissors.

I agree at this point. I waited so long to find the right one it deserves a nice single malt so I can enjoy the moment. Because, shortly after I will probably start the search for my next grail....
Definitely the right call! Think of it as buying a new car. You still drive it off the lot right!?

Enjoy it
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Old 8 December 2018, 10:27 AM   #43
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Why did you buy it? To own it? To wear it?
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Old 8 December 2018, 12:09 PM   #44
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Definitely the right call! Think of it as buying a new car. You still drive it off the lot right!?

Enjoy it
Thanks!!!

Actually, my OCD is so bad when it comes to my cars and I buy many cars a year from all over (USA/Japan/Europe) they all get shipped directly to my detailer, then to my garage or warehouse. But, my wife drives hers off the lot because I refuse to look at hers after 1 day.

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Why did you buy it? To own it? To wear it?
Isn't that one in the same essentially? But, yes to wear it.
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Old 8 December 2018, 01:40 PM   #45
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Isn't that one in the same essentially? But, yes to wear it.[/QUOTE]

No, there's quite a difference. You could be a collector who bought it to own it without having determined whether you would ever wear it. After all, buying a watch sealed is a very specific act, when you could pick one up unsealed. I know someone who bought a 1675 Blueberry with the intention of just keeping it in his safe, which I think is sad (albeit understandable). He simply wanted to own it, and is immensely proud of it. On the other hand, you could be very practical collector who insists on wearing anything you buy. I know a few collectors who only wear what they buy, and they have deep pockets.

Thus, whether you wear it depends on why you bought it. Did you buy it to own it, cherish it, look at it in its packaging, with the knowledge you would never unseal it; or, did you buy it to wear it? If its the latter, as you say, then you have your answer. Its a watch. Enjoy it. Wear it. Use it for what it was designed for.
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Old 8 December 2018, 04:57 PM   #46
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Thanks!!!

Actually, my OCD is so bad when it comes to my cars and I buy many cars a year from all over (USA/Japan/Europe) they all get shipped directly to my detailer, then to my garage or warehouse. But, my wife drives hers off the lot because I refuse to look at hers after 1 day.



Isn't that one in the same essentially? But, yes to wear it.
In that case we should keep the same process. Send the 5070 to me and I’ll detail it
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Old 8 December 2018, 11:17 PM   #47
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please wear it there are too many beautiful watches sitting in the dark
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Old 9 December 2018, 04:05 AM   #48
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Open it and enjoy it! I remember telling my middle son to not wear a Breitling that he had purchased except on special occasions. He chose to wear it all the time but died before his 30th birthday. I am so glad he did NOT listen to my flawed advise. I now remember seeing it on him in so many pictures!
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Old 9 December 2018, 05:06 AM   #49
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Open it and enjoy it! I remember telling my middle son to not wear a Breitling that he had purchased except on special occasions. He chose to wear it all the time but died before his 30th birthday. I am so glad he did NOT listen to my flawed advise. I now remember seeing it on him in so many pictures!
We can measure time, but not buy it. So sorry for your loss. Thank you.
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Old 9 December 2018, 11:59 AM   #50
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Congrats - I bought the Christies 5070G the day after. Nicely worn in, ready to go! Perhaps overpaid a little but auction results of the 5070 this season were definitely a little stronger than I suspected. My bids on the J (Phillips) and R (Christies) were unsuccessful, so now the search starts to complete the set.
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Old 9 December 2018, 12:00 PM   #51
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Open it and enjoy it! I remember telling my middle son to not wear a Breitling that he had purchased except on special occasions. He chose to wear it all the time but died before his 30th birthday. I am so glad he did NOT listen to my flawed advise. I now remember seeing it on him in so many pictures!
Terribly sad, so sorry to hear.
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Old 9 December 2018, 01:03 PM   #52
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Congrats - I bought the Christies 5070G the day after. Nicely worn in, ready to go! Perhaps overpaid a little but auction results of the 5070 this season were definitely a little stronger than I suspected. My bids on the J (Phillips) and R (Christies) were unsuccessful, so now the search starts to complete the set.
Congrats man, that was my backup! I also felt the same about the results. I think we paid the same. I am also going for the full set.
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Old 9 December 2018, 01:21 PM   #53
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Congrats man, that was my backup! I also felt the same about the results. I think we paid the same. I am also going for the full set.
I paid 65k. The R went higher and I stepped out of the bidding.

As to your original question, you have paid a sealed price premium, I would be inclined to keep it that way and find an unsealed one to wear, they are not that difficult to find.
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Old 9 December 2018, 01:24 PM   #54
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Sounds like you value the NOS status and wearing a completely unmolested watch, which I completely understand.

I'd open it up and enjoy it. Congrats on the purchase!
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Old 9 December 2018, 01:42 PM   #55
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I paid 65k. The R went higher and I stepped out of the bidding.

As to your original question, you have paid a sealed price premium, I would be inclined to keep it that way and find an unsealed one to wear, they are not that difficult to find.
Yeah mine was 65K before premium.
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Old 9 December 2018, 05:18 PM   #56
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Open it and enjoy it! I remember telling my middle son to not wear a Breitling that he had purchased except on special occasions. He chose to wear it all the time but died before his 30th birthday. I am so glad he did NOT listen to my flawed advise. I now remember seeing it on him in so many pictures!
We learn a lot from those closest to us don’t we Dave? You raised him well to have known better than you at such a young age. Stay strong brother.
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Old 9 December 2018, 05:51 PM   #57
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Keep it sealed if you bought it for investment purpose, in this case you don't need a beater 5070. Wear it if you love the watch and plan to keep it for a long time, the joy trumps the depreciation in the short term, long term the value will likely surpass what you paid for.
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Old 9 December 2018, 10:43 PM   #58
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Old 11 December 2018, 08:43 AM   #59
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