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14 September 2015, 11:32 PM | #1 |
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93150 wrist band question
On my 1977-78 Submariner the wrist band says 93150 on one of links, and has 580 ends. However the clasp has no model number 93150 stamped in it. So is this original or not?
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That is fine.
The "B" clasp code, also seen as "VB" denotes an approximate 1977 year of production. |
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So the AD wrote up the appraisal sheet saying this wrist bracelet is an "Aftermarket bracelet", stating the lack of a 93150 model # stamping on the clasp is why it's not original. Now I'm not sure what to think, seeing the model # "93150" is stamped into the end links and 580 is on the end pieces. The clasp is pictured above with all the signature "ROLEX" logos and even a "B" code stamp....though it looks like an "8" to my old eyes. The serial # does match a 1977 production year.
So the question remains....Is the lack of "93150" on the clasp mean it's not original? Everyone at the AD swears by this guy who judges all the Rolex's that come in the door, could he be mistaken? BTW, he did write up the letter saying the 1680 was no longer in production and a #1166610 model at $8500.00 would be the value this watch should be covered at. Insurance company said that's what they needed and wrote up the policy to cover the timepiece. |
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You will find some 9315 stamped b and some 93150 stamped VB and B . In order for anybody to give an opinion on the clasp in question we need to see pictures of it. The end links and bracelet links are Rolex.
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Your AD is wrong and clueless. Its not a fake bracelet or clasp. The 580 end links on your watch are the early style (late 70's) not current service ones. The 93150 stamp is good on your bracelet also. I think thats a 9315 clasp retrofitted to a 93150 bracelet can you show me a side picture of the clasp?
9315 stamped b below (One I recently sold )
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My 77-78 Submariner has 93150 on the blade, it is also marked VB.
To me it looks like a 93150 clasp(the thumb recess indicated this) but maybe with 9315 blades. The early 93150 clasps should have holes all the way, it is not possible to check this in the pictures. |
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It's been said throughout..
It is authentic! |
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I guess I have to give away these aftermarket ones..
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Thank you for the replies and photos, I am now certain this bracelet is authentic and the AD is not as knowledgeable as he claims to be. He may be the expert on current production Rolex offerings.... but sadly not this one.
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imho thats a 9315 clasp
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What are the tell tale signs for this? It is identical to the clasp I have on my Submariner which is marked 93150 and VB and I know it is original and untouched.
I thought the 9315 clasps didn't have the thumb recess like in the picture you posted? |
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what about this one ? old type ?
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what about this ?
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The clasp appears to be a 93150. I have never seen a 9315 clasp with a thumb recess. Additionally, it is not uncommon to see a a clasp from a 93150 on a 9315 bracelet due to a later repair.
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I totally agree. My understanding is that the thumb recess was introduced with the oldest type of 93150 clasps with holes all the way. later on there was a new 93150 clasp were the holes do not go all the way and even later the notch at the end was removed from the clasp.
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I have a 1999 A serial Submariner and I have this clasp in mine as well with 501b end links. It is weird I have a 20 year old clasp in a 1999 watch. It went to service recently and they didn’t say anything. Watch was handed down from my father.
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this site has some good info:
https://sweepinghand.co.uk/useful-in...racelet-codes/ |
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