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4 December 2018, 11:51 PM | #31 | |
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I'm not sure I could ever come to grips with the lack of a second hand... I have considered a jumbo purchase a few times and that always gets me. The quickset and push down crown I could get over but when I look down at my watch, I want to see it's alive! Not sure I would be ok with not seeing the second hand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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Worst case even you don’t like it, flip it for what you paid for I assume many people will line up for it |
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Love it!
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5 December 2018, 09:09 AM | #35 |
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I really don’t know which reference I prefer. Both superb.
I think it goes to personal preference. Or like always on TRF, but them both! |
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The gold pieces bring a whole new dimension to the conversation. Both are exquisite
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Thanks Gus , it really does change the conversation!
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Patek Nautilus 5711 vs AP Royal Oak 15202 Ultimate comparison thread
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I have a 5711 and 15300. I feel the 15300 with the second hand and white date wheel (really like that about the original) just ticks all the boxes for a 39mm Royal Oak. Not saying the 15202 doesn't tempt me from time to time but I just don't think it would be a keeper for me right now. Maybe that will change.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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Didn’t bother reading any of the posts in this thread: buy them both.
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Agree with most of the OP's points.
I owned both and only kepth the 5711, the non quickset date on the 15202 drove me crazy and every time I wound it I felt like the crown was going to break. The clasp on the 5711 might be more secure, but it's a pain to open, it almost feels ike the bracelet will eventually break from pulling so hard. The 15202 on the other hand is a joy to open and feels very solid.
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Don’t know if you have seen it but There is a 5711 where the owner requested a matching date wheel from Patek they agreed and it looks great
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Good and fair comparison!
I have owned the 15202 and that is literally the only watch out of dozens that I've moved on that I truly, truly regret selling. Even though I am still heads over heels in love with my 5712, I want a 15202 back really badly. There's something quite romantic about it having changed very little since 1972, and how well everything flows together (e.g. the datewheel that matches the dial colour, the simplicity without a seconds hands, etc.) I wouldn't want a 5711 and 15202 at the same time, but on the other hand, the 5712 and 15202 would complement each other very well! The thing that frustrated me the most with the 15202 was the lack of a quickset date. But I do have the date adjustment tool ready for the day when I get a 15202 back... so that is now less of an issue! |
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Have not seen the matching date wheel modern blue dial 5711, but that's the setup I'd want.
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Very nice review, Gus, seem to remember something similar on the Other Brands forum too. Just on the blue dials, I'd say for me the two grey blue "original" dials have been superseded my more vibrant modern blue dials on the 15400 and 5711P.
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And the 5740!
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My vote. I actually find the 15202 and 15300 still too big. Going to shoot for a 15450 blue and try my luck there.
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5711 with matching date wheel to address one of my original cons
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They are not comparable. They do not look like each other. Only the designer is the same. You can compare a steel datejust to a plain blue face overseas for that fact.
Audemars Royal oak bracelet finishing is close to none. You can recognize the brand 30 feet away similar to rolex. |
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15202 for me, and I’ve owned both.
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Fair point, the 5711 wasn’t the original either (3700) but both are the refined descendant of the original Genta designs. Intent is to acknowledge the brand that offered the market the first SS sports watch at a time when this was not the norm.
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I love the 15202 for having two hands only, dial is so calm and when you look at it doesnt remind you immediately that the time is flying...
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Well said.
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LOVE my jumbo, would subjectively say it is aesthetically more pleasing and has much more presence than a 5711, regardless of metal.Will have to pry it out of my cold dead hands.
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Adding a point to the list regarding bracelets
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As said earlier in the thread, when are talking about the PM variations it becomes another conversation
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How "exciting"!
And, who is the "winner"? |
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that's for you to decide. i have attempted to be objective in my comparison.
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