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Old 24 April 2018, 11:18 PM   #1
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Explorer 114270 is this a fake / copy ?

Still searching, this one has come up, I've asked for clearer photos of the dial and case as the lum at 6 o'clock looks off, what's your thoughts? is it a wrongun???? many thanks "H"
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Old 24 April 2018, 11:41 PM   #2
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Sorry sir...FAKE. (including box and certificate)

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Old 24 April 2018, 11:44 PM   #3
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I really can't see a problem with that from the pics.
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Old 25 April 2018, 12:18 AM   #4
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Unsure, more comments welcome

Ive requested more photos of the dial, await the outcome of these.
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Old 25 April 2018, 12:22 AM   #5
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The bracelet

The bracelet, does this look right?
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Old 25 April 2018, 01:58 PM   #6
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Off Center?

I await better photos, but that 6 doesn't look centered to me.
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Old 25 April 2018, 03:01 PM   #7
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I would ask for more close up pictures including tagged ones.
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Old 25 April 2018, 03:52 PM   #8
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Still searching, this one has come up, I've asked for clearer photos of the dial and case as the lum at 6 o'clock looks off, what's your thoughts? is it a wrongun???? many thanks "H"
Everything looks pretty ok to me. What you refer to as "lum" on the 6 is just enamel (or similar), as the numerals were not lumed on this model. The enamel was often offset, too. It was a known QC issue on the 114270. Just a quirk of this model, really. I would like to see what is written on that warranty paper though as there seems to be a lot of handwriting showing through.
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Old 25 April 2018, 05:29 PM   #9
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Everything looks pretty ok to me. What you refer to as "lum" on the 6 is just enamel (or similar), as the numerals were not lumed on this model. The enamel was often offset, too. It was a known QC issue on the 114270. Just a quirk of this model, really. I would like to see what is written on that warranty paper though as there seems to be a lot of handwriting showing through.
Hi Adam, leave this with me, as yet no more photos have been forth coming.... benefit of the doubt the seller may just have been busy last night
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Old 26 April 2018, 02:19 AM   #10
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Sorry sir...FAKE. (including box and certificate)

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Why don't we elaborate a bit?
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Old 26 April 2018, 02:24 AM   #11
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Ask for a Lume pic. If the 3 6 9 light up, its a fake.
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Old 26 April 2018, 05:39 AM   #12
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Ask for a Lume pic. If the 3 6 9 light up, its a fake.
Uh.

Relatively sure there are dial variations that had lumed 3,6,9.
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Old 26 April 2018, 09:35 AM   #13
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Yes for a time the Explorer had lumed Arabics


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Old 26 April 2018, 10:29 AM   #14
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Relatively sure there are dial variations that had lumed 3,6,9.
Not for the 114270, nor the 14270....you have to go right back to the 1016 for lumed 3/6/9.
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Old 26 April 2018, 09:06 PM   #15
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Ive attached Photos of the paperwork from the seller, Ive also contacted the Jewellers who originally sold it, they are also looking into this for me, as it has the original owners address I took a look on the internet at the property and found out that it sold in 2014 for 950k its a dead swanky pad at that, let me know what you think of the paperwork and additional photos all the best "H"
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Old 26 April 2018, 09:16 PM   #16
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Watch looks fine to me. What serial number is that? Asking because I am unsure if that's the right box for it, if that's something that's of importance to you. Good luck!
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Old 27 April 2018, 05:37 AM   #17
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Watch looks fine to me. What serial number is that? Asking because I am unsure if that's the right box for it, if that's something that's of importance to you. Good luck!
Papers look 2007 - that would be the approx date
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Old 27 April 2018, 05:54 AM   #18
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Not for the 114270, nor the 14270....you have to go right back to the 1016 for lumed 3/6/9.
I know that there are 214270 dial variations with lumed numerals. I thought there were for this ref. as well.

You're likely correct.
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Old 27 April 2018, 08:49 AM   #19
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I know that there are 214270 dial variations with lumed numerals. I thought there were for this ref. as well.

You're likely correct.
He is.

All looks fine from here (watch, papers, box, etc.). Probably a D or Z serial.

Also, the issue @ 6 o'clock the OP mentioned looks to be a scratch/blemish on the crystal, not the dial/marker.
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Old 30 April 2018, 05:07 AM   #20
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Ive pulled the trigger and got a deal.....this was 300 less than what another dealer was offering which then jumped up to 4100, as prices on pre owned are on the increase!?!?!?

A full show and tell once it arrives,

Many thanks for all the support "H"
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