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jsw7 · 17 May 2018, 06:14 AM

In a bit of a dilemma, my AD has offered me one that is turning up tomorrow and I’ve always loved the look of it in photos - never seen one in person but I had a 5711/1A and whilst I loved the look of it I found it not getting much wrist time due to the thinness and weight making it feel fragile so ended up being replaced by a 5980/1A which is worn regularly.

My current collection is PP 5980/1A, AP 15400ST, Rolex Daytona 116500ln, Rolex Submariner 116610lv, Rolex Submariner 16610 and a Rolex Yachtmaster 16622.

Should I add the 1R? Will it cause the same concerns as 1A?

tonupbklyn · 17 May 2018, 06:20 AM

u have no PM model?? if not, take it! if ur issue with the steel model was that it felt too light, then u certainly won't have that with the rose gold.

and if u don't, send me the AD info my way as i will gladly take it at retail!

watchtabs · 17 May 2018, 06:26 AM

I've heard about how due to the gold, its more hefty!

Get it, enjoy it!

kultschar · 17 May 2018, 06:42 AM

Try it on and if you dont like it, just decline. Im sure your AD will appreciate your not a flipper!

jsw7 · 17 May 2018, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

u have no PM model?? if not, take it! if ur issue with the steel model was that it felt too light, then u certainly won't have that with the rose gold.

and if u don't, send me the AD info my way as i will gladly take it at retail!

No I don’t have a PM currently - had a rose DD40 but was never fully sold on it and got the chance to move it on for more than I paid.
Weight probably was the issue so think I’m going to go try the 1R on.

jsw7 · 17 May 2018, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kultschar

Try it on and if you dont like it, just decline. Im sure your AD will appreciate your not a flipper!

Indeed and they’ve offered to hold it for 2 weeks for me so I can do just that just wanted to get opinions.
I’m fairly sure like with the 1A I will fall in love with the look of it but hoping it maybe feel less fragile and therefore get more wrist time.

kultschar · 17 May 2018, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jsw7

Indeed and they’ve offered to hold it for 2 weeks for me so I can do just that just wanted to get opinions.
I’m fairly sure like with the 1A I will fall in love with the look of it but hoping it maybe feel less fragile and therefore get more wrist time.

Thats cool of them to do that!!

I would love to try one at some point, never seen one!

dmash · 17 May 2018, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jsw7

No I don’t have a PM currently - had a rose DD40 but was never fully sold on it and got the chance to move it on for more than I paid.
Weight probably was the issue so think I’m going to go try the 1R on.

PM just isn’t for some people. I love PM sports pieces on the internet, but hate them on my wrist. Pretty certain I’ll never own a PM sport piece, gold is reserved for leather strap dress wear.

AK797 · 17 May 2018, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jsw7

No I don’t have a PM currently - had a rose DD40 but was never fully sold on it and got the chance to move it on for more than I paid.
Weight probably was the issue so think I’m going to go try the 1R on.

I sold my DD2 for a 5711r so I strongly suggest you do the same, has a lovely weight to it, around 180grams, so between Rolex SS and PM.

Bearxj86 · 17 May 2018, 08:07 AM

I have both the 1A and the R. The R is a different animal. Worth picking up. Especially since its selling over retail too.

turborolex · 17 May 2018, 09:59 AM

I tried it twice at my AD, once in December of last year and once in Feb of this year. Nice watch, no doubt. Good weight, amazing finish and phenomenal dial color.

Offered a 12% discount both times. I would have bought it if I were into all yellow/rose gold timepieces.

I don’t believe they are hard to find and don’t know why they are being listed here at a premium.

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Timelover · 17 May 2018, 02:02 PM

i'll throw an idea here, sell your 5980 steel and buy the 5980R. Hot two birds with one stone.

tyler1980 · 17 May 2018, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jsw7

In a bit of a dilemma, my AD has offered me one that is turning up tomorrow and I’ve always loved the look of it in photos - never seen one in person but I had a 5711/1A and whilst I loved the look of it I found it not getting much wrist time due to the thinness and weight making it feel fragile so ended up being replaced by a 5980/1A which is worn regularly.

My current collection is PP 5980/1A, AP 15400ST, Rolex Daytona 116500ln, Rolex Submariner 116610lv, Rolex Submariner 16610 and a Rolex Yachtmaster 16622.

Should I add the 1R? Will it cause the same concerns as 1A?

5980/1R is your solution

SilverFoxUK · 17 May 2018, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by turborolex

I tried it twice at my AD, once in December of last year and once in Feb of this year. Nice watch, no doubt. Good weight, amazing finish and phenomenal dial color.

Offered a 12% discount both times. I would have bought it if I were into all yellow/rose gold timepieces.

I don’t believe they are hard to find and don’t know why they are being listed here at a premium.

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Are these sometimes discounted in the UK? If so, would any UK owners be willing to give an idea of what percent discount might be achievable, assuming a good AD relationship? Thanks.

tyler1980 · 17 May 2018, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFoxUK

Are these sometimes discounted in the UK? If so, would any UK owners be willing to give an idea of what percent discount might be achievable, assuming a good AD relationship? Thanks.

not a chance today in the UK. Im skeptical of any country where its being discounted as AD's know its selling for a premium.

Sam Philip · 17 May 2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFoxUK

Are these sometimes discounted in the UK? If so, would any UK owners be willing to give an idea of what percent discount might be achievable, assuming a good AD relationship? Thanks.

It is still possible to get a discount if the shop already has the model in stock. I have been offered discounts ranging from 10-15% for some annual and perpetual calendars without any negotiation

tyler1980 · 17 May 2018, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Philip

It is still possible to get a discount if the shop already has the model in stock. I have been offered discounts ranging from 10-15% for some annual and perpetual calendars without any negotiation

for a 5711R though ?

I had a hard time at a london AD getting them to budge on a 5170G. I didn't want to buy it, i was just seeing what they would sell it for. I do suck at negotiating though.

crooky13 · 17 May 2018, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jsw7

In a bit of a dilemma, my AD has offered me one that is turning up tomorrow and I’ve always loved the look of it in photos - never seen one in person but I had a 5711/1A and whilst I loved the look of it I found it not getting much wrist time due to the thinness and weight making it feel fragile so ended up being replaced by a 5980/1A which is worn regularly.

My current collection is PP 5980/1A, AP 15400ST, Rolex Daytona 116500ln, Rolex Submariner 116610lv, Rolex Submariner 16610 and a Rolex Yachtmaster 16622.

Should I add the 1R? Will it cause the same concerns as 1A?

If you turn it down post the two weeks I'm based in London and would be keen to have the details of the AD!

Sam Philip · 17 May 2018, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

for a 5711R though ?

I had a hard time at a london AD getting them to budge on a 5170G. I didn't want to buy it, i was just seeing what they would sell it for. I do suck at negotiating though.

I have never been offered a discount for a Nautilus model. Few months ago I saw a 5711R in a window but never asked as I was not in the market for one.

LAFLARE · 17 May 2018, 07:46 PM

Isn't PM more delicate than SS especially in the HH world? I would think that this would make reserves just as much as the lightweight feel of the 5711 in SS

turborolex · 17 May 2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Philip

I have never been offered a discount for a Nautilus model. Few months ago I saw a 5711R in a window but never asked as I was not in the market for one.

I do the same, it I don’t want, I don’t bother. If it’s a watch I wan’t and it’s in stock in the case or a window, I always try to get a discount. Often I get push back with the usual sales tactics, but I always try.

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tonupbklyn · 17 May 2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by turborolex

I tried it twice at my AD, once in December of last year and once in Feb of this year. Nice watch, no doubt. Good weight, amazing finish and phenomenal dial color.

Offered a 12% discount both times. I would have bought it if I were into all yellow/rose gold timepieces.

I don’t believe they are hard to find and don’t know why they are being listed here at a premium.

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which AD in NY??

Jay (Eire) · 17 May 2018, 09:29 PM

Well, the r will solve the weight problem you had for sure. I think it's a stunning watch, love the dial colour and from having it on the wrist a few times at the AD it's easier to pull off than a RG Day-Date for example (just less metal all round and less in your face).

It was still too much gold for me, it would never have been a watch that I could easily wear and so for that reason I passed. Do you see yourself wearing that amount of gold regularly (or at least enough to justify owning it)?

turborolex · 17 May 2018, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

which AD in NY??

NJ

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dmash · 17 May 2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by timelover

i'll throw an idea here, sell your 5980 steel and buy the 5980r. Hot two birds with one stone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1980

5980/1r is your solution

this!

codecow · 17 May 2018, 11:50 PM

I’d try it, it’s a great piece I thought it had good wrist feel.

jsw7 · 18 May 2018, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Timelover

i'll throw an idea here, sell your 5980 steel and buy the 5980R. Hot two birds with one stone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1980

5980/1R is your solution

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmash

this!

I think you could be right but so far I’ve had no success in finding one at AD to even try on let alone buy.

jsw7 · 18 May 2018, 05:03 AM

Thanks all for the input. I think I will go and try it and decide form there.
If not I know there are plenty of uk members that would love to get it.

chad362wiley · 18 May 2018, 07:17 AM

i think the 5711r is the most beautiful rose gold piece out there. if i was going to own a PM piece in RG it would be that watch. for $50-60k its pricey but I feel it would almost be worth trading a few pieces to get it. so lovely, but i would feel a bit worried wearing it around since its so expensive.

pam66 · 18 May 2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chad362wiley

i think the 5711r is the most beautiful rose gold piece out there. if i was going to own a PM piece in RG it would be that watch. for $50-60k its pricey but I feel it would almost be worth trading a few pieces to get it. so lovely, but i would feel a bit worried wearing it around since its so expensive.

it is actually rather inconspicuous but scratches easily. otherwise it would be my only watch and i'd wear it all the time:::))))

17 May 2018, 06:14 AM	#1
jsw7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 95	5711/1r In a bit of a dilemma, my AD has offered me one that is turning up tomorrow and I’ve always loved the look of it in photos - never seen one in person but I had a 5711/1A and whilst I loved the look of it I found it not getting much wrist time due to the thinness and weight making it feel fragile so ended up being replaced by a 5980/1A which is worn regularly. My current collection is PP 5980/1A, AP 15400ST, Rolex Daytona 116500ln, Rolex Submariner 116610lv, Rolex Submariner 16610 and a Rolex Yachtmaster 16622. Should I add the 1R? Will it cause the same concerns as 1A?

17 May 2018, 09:59 AM	#11
turborolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: H. Location: USA Posts: 564	I tried it twice at my AD, once in December of last year and once in Feb of this year. Nice watch, no doubt. Good weight, amazing finish and phenomenal dial color. Offered a 12% discount both times. I would have bought it if I were into all yellow/rose gold timepieces. I don’t believe they are hard to find and don’t know why they are being listed here at a premium. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ current collection: Patek 5712, Patek 5726 (white), Patek 5990, Patek 5524G, Rolex 116500 (white & black), AP 26331ST (Blue).

18 May 2018, 07:17 AM	#29
chad362wiley "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: N/A Posts: 1,218	i think the 5711r is the most beautiful rose gold piece out there. if i was going to own a PM piece in RG it would be that watch. for $50-60k its pricey but I feel it would almost be worth trading a few pieces to get it. so lovely, but i would feel a bit worried wearing it around since its so expensive. __________________ 116506

17 May 2018, 06:20 AM	#2
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	u have no PM model?? if not, take it! if ur issue with the steel model was that it felt too light, then u certainly won't have that with the rose gold. and if u don't, send me the AD info my way as i will gladly take it at retail!

17 May 2018, 06:26 AM	#3
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	I've heard about how due to the gold, its more hefty! Get it, enjoy it!

17 May 2018, 06:42 AM	#4
kultschar "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: End of the World Watch: PP & Rolex Posts: 1,970	Try it on and if you dont like it, just decline. Im sure your AD will appreciate your not a flipper!

17 May 2018, 08:07 AM	#10
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,801	I have both the 1A and the R. The R is a different animal. Worth picking up. Especially since its selling over retail too.

17 May 2018, 02:02 PM	#12
Timelover Banned Join Date: May 2018 Location: . Posts: 86	i'll throw an idea here, sell your 5980 steel and buy the 5980R. Hot two birds with one stone.

17 May 2018, 07:46 PM	#20
LAFLARE "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: SF, CA Posts: 833	Isn't PM more delicate than SS especially in the HH world? I would think that this would make reserves just as much as the lightweight feel of the 5711 in SS

17 May 2018, 09:29 PM	#23
Jay (Eire) 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: @jb.watching Location: NYC Posts: 1,469	Well, the r will solve the weight problem you had for sure. I think it's a stunning watch, love the dial colour and from having it on the wrist a few times at the AD it's easier to pull off than a RG Day-Date for example (just less metal all round and less in your face). It was still too much gold for me, it would never have been a watch that I could easily wear and so for that reason I passed. Do you see yourself wearing that amount of gold regularly (or at least enough to justify owning it)?

17 May 2018, 11:50 PM	#26
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,785	I’d try it, it’s a great piece I thought it had good wrist feel.

18 May 2018, 05:03 AM	#28
jsw7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 95	Thanks all for the input. I think I will go and try it and decide form there. If not I know there are plenty of uk members that would love to get it.

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