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Old 18 May 2018, 02:30 PM   #1
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Opinions on Vacheron Overseas Chronos?

Hey all!

So I'm deliberately asking in the PP about VC, as I see only high level collectors to be interested in this brand.

However, I did have a 'flop' when I got my Quai del Ille in steel. But I'm curious what other PP collectors think of VC and their modern sport watches.

What do you think about VC?
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Old 18 May 2018, 02:56 PM   #2
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The Overseas is always tempting but I can never seem to pull the trigger. I love the newest version with the quick change strap system but something about the chrono registers always gets in the way. Where the dial is cut out around the sub-dials it looks like the coloration of the dial is off somehow. Other than that I'm a big fan.
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Old 18 May 2018, 02:58 PM   #3
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big fan, but that date window drives me crazy. I do think it looks better on the new black/white dial version since it seems to blend in better with the color scheme on that watch. On the blue which would actually be my preferred color the date window has stopped me from buying.
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Old 18 May 2018, 03:11 PM   #4
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I get turned off by the non-tapared bracelet!
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Old 18 May 2018, 04:05 PM   #5
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I think the VCO is a compelling package. It has a lovely dial, nicely decorated in-house movement, solid bracelet and I remember a strong marketing campaign 2 years ago.

Hence, I went to the VC boutique to try on. With a wrist size of 6.5", I thought it appears a tad too large for me. Also, the higher price point as compared to the AP Royal Oak 15400, coupled with a weak resale value, kill off the deal.

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Old 18 May 2018, 09:58 PM   #6
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I think the VCO is a compelling package. It has a lovely dial, nicely decorated in-house movement, solid bracelet and I remember a strong marketing campaign 2 years ago.



Hence, I went to the VC boutique to try on. With a wrist size of 6.5", I thought it appears a tad too large for me. Also, the higher price point as compared to the AP Royal Oak 15400, coupled with a weak resale value, kill off the deal.



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Old 18 May 2018, 10:46 PM   #7
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big fan, but that date window drives me crazy. I do think it looks better on the new black/white dial version since it seems to blend in better with the color scheme on that watch. On the blue which would actually be my preferred color the date window has stopped me from buying.
What’s up with the sub dials being more of an off white/cream instead of a true white like the date wheel and other writing? Upon closer inspection of the piece, I noticed this. Total turnoff for me, I feel it doesn’t flow whatsoever. I honestly might of purchased the black chrono if this weren't the case, it’s a cool watch otherwise.

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Old 18 May 2018, 10:47 PM   #8
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What year did they switch to in house movements?
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Old 19 May 2018, 01:14 AM   #9
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I really liked the previous generation; would have probably kept it long term if it had the newer strap change system. Definitely heavier and thicker than the 5711 and 15300; wore fairly close to the SubC but not as comfortable mainly because of the lack of quick adjustment in the bracelet.




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Old 19 May 2018, 01:23 AM   #10
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I have owned a VC overseas dual time, AP chrono and a nautilus at one time. Although gorgeous in construction, had the least staying power for me.

I got it and flipped it within 3 months.

The ultramarine dial also holds nothing to the Royal oak tapisserie blue or the natulius blue
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Old 19 May 2018, 02:52 AM   #11
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I just think there are better options at the price point.

Also - and this is just me, I’d have a tough time buying this watch just like I’d have a tough time buying a Rolex Cellini. Rightly or wrongly, it’s just not what the brand “is” to me.
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Old 19 May 2018, 02:54 AM   #12
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What’s up with the sub dials being more of an off white/cream instead of a true white like the date wheel and other writing? Upon closer inspection of the piece, I noticed this. Total turnoff for me, I feel it doesn’t flow whatsoever. I honestly might of purchased the black chrono if this weren't the case, it’s a cool watch otherwise.
not sure. This is a watch i really do want to see IRL. I have yet to see any actually reach AD's yet.
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Old 19 May 2018, 03:29 AM   #13
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not sure. This is a watch i really do want to see IRL. I have yet to see any actually reach AD's yet.
It seems you can't trust pre-release pictures nor manufacturer information prior to the actual landing in ADs. Seen it happen too many times.....some being worse than others *cough* AP *cough*.
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Old 19 May 2018, 08:31 AM   #14
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What year did they switch to in house movements?
These new 3rd Gen Overseas, and new additions, were all announced at SIHH 2016.

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Old 19 May 2018, 09:02 AM   #15
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Love this watch but for the price point I would go AP or Daytona. Doesn’t feel safe in the sense that I would probably have second thoughts soon after the purchase. Also, I suspect the poor resale has many spooked.


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Old 19 May 2018, 09:17 AM   #16
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I loved my VC overseas Chrono, unfortunately it is gone now in a trade for a PP!
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Old 19 May 2018, 09:37 AM   #17
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What’s up with the sub dials being more of an off white/cream instead of a true white like the date wheel and other writing? Upon closer inspection of the piece, I noticed this. Total turnoff for me, I feel it doesn’t flow whatsoever. I honestly might of purchased the black chrono if this weren't the case, it’s a cool watch otherwise.

I like the same sized subdials now but not crazy about the font choices. I still think they make good watches but they are a little fussy and finicky and I think I would probably flip mine after a while, I say flip, would that were so, as then I would take a punt but the resales prohibit this flutter.
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Old 19 May 2018, 12:29 PM   #18
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Fan here as well. They were on my list but too big for my wrists in person.
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Old 19 May 2018, 12:46 PM   #19
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I don’t care for the bezel
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Old 19 May 2018, 04:06 PM   #20
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Beautiful design, but loses it’s charm very quickly and I flip it for another PP.
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Old 20 May 2018, 09:27 AM   #21
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I owned the gray dial version of the VC overseas chrono shown in the photo. I have a small wrist and found it fit well. I just was not wearing it that often and decided to sell it. I am considering a VC overseas World time now. I really want a world time watch but none of them totally hit the features I find important.

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I really liked the previous generation; would have probably kept it long term if it had the newer strap change system. Definitely heavier and thicker than the 5711 and 15300; wore fairly close to the SubC but not as comfortable mainly because of the lack of quick adjustment in the bracelet.




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Old 20 May 2018, 10:02 AM   #22
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I personally would pass on any VC. I’m sure they make fine watches they just dont speak to me and if you want to sell one in order to buy something else you will take a serious loss.
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Old 20 May 2018, 02:58 PM   #23
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I get turned off by the non-tapared bracelet!
It is tapered – the claps links aren’t the same width as the lug links.
It isn’t as narrow as the RO and Nautilus, but if you prefer that, then why are you even contemplating the VCO at all?


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I just think there are better options at the price point.

Also - and this is just me, I’d have a tough time buying this watch just like I’d have a tough time buying a Rolex Cellini. Rightly or wrongly, it’s just not what the brand “is” to me.
Such as?
Name another option (that gets taken seriously – so that kills the GP Laureato notion stone dead) that you can walk out of the AD’s store the same day with something to show for the visit?

Your notion of what VC is, is at odds with what their history demonstrates!
They’ve been making an Overseas model since the 90s, or the latter half of the 70s, if you accept the 222 as the logical forerunner.


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I personally would pass on any VC. I’m sure they make fine watches they just dont speak to me and if you want to sell one in order to buy something else you will take a serious loss.
Not everyone is fixated on the residual value, since they accept most commodities are worth less as pre-owned, but will aim for a decent discount in order to lessen the cost of ownership.
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Old 20 May 2018, 03:01 PM   #24
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It is tapered – the claps links aren’t the same width as the lug links.
It isn’t as narrow as the RO and Nautilus, but if you prefer that, then why are you even contemplating the VCO at all?




Such as?
Name another option (that gets taken seriously – so that kills the GP Laureato notion stone dead) that you can walk out of the AD’s store the same day with something to show for the visit?

Your notion of what VC is, is at odds with what their history demonstrates!
They’ve been making an Overseas model since the 90s, or the latter half of the 70s, if you accept the 222 as the logical forerunner.




Not everyone is fixated on the residual value, since they accept most commodities are worth less as pre-owned, but will aim for a decent discount in order to lessen the cost of ownership.

They are? I may have not looked at the pictures right.

I think you're right, I need to go try it on in the metal :)

I am very interested in it.
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Old 20 May 2018, 04:02 PM   #25
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The color and placement of the date window is a catastrophic design fail. Would never buy because of how much those bug me.
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They are? I may have not looked at the pictures right.

I think you're right, I need to go try it on in the metal :)

I am very interested in it.
Yes, you only have to look at the photo above, of the previous 2nd Gen (49150) to see the taper.
If it didn’t, you’d have a clasp width of 25-26mm, instead of 18-19mm – which is practically identical to the 15400 RO’s.
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Old 20 May 2018, 09:26 PM   #27
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I think the VC Overseas Chrono is a cool watch
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Not a fan of the overseas. I find them too bloated and thick. The blue dial color/contrast esp on the newer version is quite nice though.
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I like the VC watches and the new model Oversea is nice but price prohibitive. The resale or trade value is horrible and service times according to my AD are inline with PP. Add all of that up and it is a brand I will continue to admire from afar.
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Definitely heavier and thicker than the 5711 and 15300; wore fairly close to the SubC but not as comfortable mainly because of the lack of quick adjustment in the bracelet.
I've never actually handled the 2nd gen, didn't know the bracelet didn't have quick adjustment. I have the 3rd gen, it does (pretty cool - a bit of length can come out on either side of the deployant clasp, just pull outwards on either side. So you can do one side, or both for even more length, and don't have to take it off as part of the process.)
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