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Old 25 April 2016, 05:52 AM   #1
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Is there any truth behind this?Rolex Pro hunter statement..

This is new to me.

A black Rolex milsub. Issued by Rolex.
Any truth behind it or only a sale pitch from prohunt..?

"For many years our hunting clients yearned for a Rolex designed for the hunting community.

So we collaborated their ideas and it took me back to when I held a black coated Rolex Submariner in my hands especially made by Rolex for a few British Army officers based in Africa.

Others have only come across stories or heard of this legendary watch but I have actually seen and held it and the design was embedded in my memory.

This resulted in the design of a smart and exclusive timepiece that is both practical and pleasing to the eye. The Pro Hunter was born."
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Old 25 April 2016, 05:54 AM   #2
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Not heard that before, so am looking forward to the historians chiming in.
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Old 25 April 2016, 05:55 AM   #3
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I've never heard that before..

But I'm moving this over to the Vintage Board where some true collectors of vintage should be able to shed more light on the possibility/actuality.
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Old 25 April 2016, 05:55 AM   #4
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Sounds like marketing to me.
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Old 25 April 2016, 06:09 AM   #5
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Pro-Hunter is an aftermarket customization company, similar to Bamford. https://discoverprohunter.com/concept/
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Old 25 April 2016, 06:15 AM   #6
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Pro-Hunter is an aftermarket customization company, similar to Bamford. https://discoverprohunter.com/concept/
Yes i know.

But i this is not about PRO-HUNTER mod watches.

As i wrote, PH claims that Rolex issued black Milsubs to British army officers in Africa- back in the day
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Old 25 April 2016, 06:44 AM   #7
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edit. now I got what your're asking.
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Old 25 April 2016, 07:18 AM   #8
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Yes i know.

But i this is not about PRO-HUNTER mod watches.

As i wrote, PH claims that Rolex issued black Milsubs to British army officers in Africa- back in the day
http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showt...513-Submariner

It was a Teflon coated sub, I have heard some very reputable people say they exist, and others they don't. I believe there was a picture posted of one before but it definitely wasn't black, just a darker hue than normal steel.
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Old 25 April 2016, 07:57 AM   #9
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Probably modified by another company, but I do not think it was a rolex original?
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Old 25 April 2016, 08:11 AM   #10
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It is not referenced in Mondani's steel Rolex book. I do not own Mondani's Submariner book but I would suspect that it would be in there if it indeed exists.
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Old 25 April 2016, 09:27 AM   #11
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http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showt...513-Submariner

It was a Teflon coated sub, I have heard some very reputable people say they exist, and others they don't. I believe there was a picture posted of one before but it definitely wasn't black, just a darker hue than normal steel.
Interesting. Some reputable people have claimed that this watch exists. Some have even said to have handled one, but where are the pics?
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Old 25 April 2016, 12:12 PM   #12
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Come on guys: when something is real, the evidence strengthens a claim. That is how science works.
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Old 25 April 2016, 01:21 PM   #13
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The Teflon coated South African Milsub did exist IMHO , I have seen pictures of it and I know several well respected people who handled a couple of them , including our dear departed friend Marcelo. A picture did or two did exist on a public access forum for a long time but like many of the original forums it was lost to public view when political spats led to the closure , anything posted on a private closed forum would obviously not be able to be re- posted in public here a

The story was that the watches were coated in Teflon to reduce reflection from the sun, the watch has a grey hue , but otherwise looked like a normal 5513 in essence .

The pioneers in the field handles this watch , James Dowling , Tom bolt , yes Kamal , Marcelo and many others at early watch fairs .... And at a time where this kind of thing did not get recorded by everyone and his dog on a smartphone , or even put on the Internet.

The first person to take this original idea and customise a watch was Dowling if my memory serves , and then Bamfords.
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Old 25 April 2016, 03:08 PM   #14
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Sorry got distracted before I could come back and link this

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=187624
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Old 25 April 2016, 04:03 PM   #15
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Amazing. Thank you for the info, Jed.
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Old 25 April 2016, 05:24 PM   #16
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Thanks

Wow! Thanks for the info.

Fun to see that there is truth behind.

Rolexforums is truly a great sorce for information.
Mindblowing how mutch knowledge that is gathered here

Sorry for the bad english
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Old 25 April 2016, 05:37 PM   #17
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Would have been a great addition if we could find one to our issued in London gtg this weekend just gone ....



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Old 25 April 2016, 05:40 PM   #18
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The Teflon coated South African Milsub did exist IMHO , I have seen pictures of it and I know several well respected people who handled a couple of them , including our dear departed friend Marcelo. A picture did or two did exist on a public access forum for a long time but like many of the original forums it was lost to public view when political spats led to the closure , anything posted on a private closed forum would obviously not be able to be re- posted in public here a

The story was that the watches were coated in Teflon to reduce reflection from the sun, the watch has a grey hue , but otherwise looked like a normal 5513 in essence .

The pioneers in the field handles this watch , James Dowling , Tom bolt , yes Kamal , Marcelo and many others at early watch fairs .... And at a time where this kind of thing did not get recorded by everyone and his dog on a smartphone , or even put on the Internet.

The first person to take this original idea and customise a watch was Dowling if my memory serves , and then Bamfords.

Just wanted to add, that Rolex Prototype Department would be INSANE not having made DLC, PVD coated prototypes for the CEOs to decide in the past.

I mean, every watch company had black watches in their range - be it Ceramic or PVD coated.

So for sure Rolex have done prototypes of that kind - they know their jobs pretty well.
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Old 25 April 2016, 08:59 PM   #19
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Sorry got distracted before I could come back and link this

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=187624
Thank you, that was the thread I was trying to find.
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Old 25 April 2016, 09:07 PM   #20
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ive seen them painted black ,,, same as cap badges ,,, thats all im saying on the subject.
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Old 26 April 2016, 12:54 AM   #21
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The Teflon coated South African Milsub did exist IMHO , I have seen pictures of it and I know several well respected people who handled a couple of them , including our dear departed friend Marcelo. A picture did or two did exist on a public access forum for a long time but like many of the original forums it was lost to public view when political spats led to the closure , anything posted on a private closed forum would obviously not be able to be re- posted in public here a

The story was that the watches were coated in Teflon to reduce reflection from the sun, the watch has a grey hue , but otherwise looked like a normal 5513 in essence .

The pioneers in the field handles this watch , James Dowling , Tom bolt , yes Kamal , Marcelo and many others at early watch fairs .... And at a time where this kind of thing did not get recorded by everyone and his dog on a smartphone , or even put on the Internet.

The first person to take this original idea and customise a watch was Dowling if my memory serves , and then Bamfords.
+1 and ther must be a thread about that somewhere...
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