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Old 8 April 2011, 11:58 AM   #1
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GMT Master II or Submariner Date

Hi all, i'm on the verge of buying my first rolex and after initial research i've narrowed it down to two alternates, the GMT master II or Submariner Date, (both s/s). The prices down here in Aus are very similar and obviously very similar looking watches, but i'm torn as to which is the better watch.
Any advice or comments are welcome.
Many thanks in advance.
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Old 8 April 2011, 12:29 PM   #2
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I would personally go for the gmtii but I am biased. they are practically same watches in terms of looks (unless you are talking the coke/pepsi and not the ceramic version) but gmt has an extra function of second timezone. That said you cannot go wrong with either. good luck
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Old 8 April 2011, 12:32 PM   #3
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I personally do not care for the polished center links on the GMT IIC. My vote goes to the Submariner! A little less busy on the rotating bezel too!
But, both are sweet watches........you are in a win win situation in my book!
Good luck with your decision!
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Old 8 April 2011, 12:38 PM   #4
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SUB as a 1st....
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Old 8 April 2011, 03:57 PM   #5
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+1 for Sub
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Old 8 April 2011, 04:16 PM   #6
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Sub 1st then GMTIIc .-)
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Old 9 April 2011, 03:52 AM   #7
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GMT IIc,
More versatile and has more utility.
Check some other threads on the site. There are some great discussions.
I might suggest you try both on though. What looks good to you? Then make the plunge. Happy buying.
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Old 9 April 2011, 12:19 PM   #8
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GMT IIc,
More versatile and has more utility.
Check some other threads on the site. There are some great discussions.
I might suggest you try both on though. What looks good to you? Then make the plunge. Happy buying.
Agree-try them on first.
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Old 9 April 2011, 04:59 AM   #9
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GMT for me although i love the Sub and it's quite rightly classic....just a tad to common perhaps??
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Old 9 April 2011, 07:21 AM   #10
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GMT II for me...
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Old 9 April 2011, 07:34 AM   #11
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Either is a winner.
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Old 9 April 2011, 09:01 AM   #12
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GMT for me, but you can't make a wrong choice here
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Old 9 April 2011, 11:42 AM   #13
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GMTII gets my vote
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Old 9 April 2011, 05:58 PM   #14
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Just be aware the GMT with PCL is very easily scratched, no matter how careful you think you are.

If this is going to be your only Rolex, I'd go for the Sub. Otherwise, either one as your first is just as good.
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Old 14 December 2011, 02:39 AM   #15
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Just be aware the GMT with PCL is very easily scratched, no matter how careful you think you are.

If this is going to be your only Rolex, I'd go for the Sub. Otherwise, either one as your first is just as good.
I have gotten myself a GMT IIc. Like to know what's PCL?
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Old 14 December 2011, 02:42 AM   #16
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I have gotten myself a GMT IIc. Like to know what's PCL?
"polished center link" - referring to bracelets centre links...
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Old 10 April 2011, 12:06 AM   #17
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Hi all, i'm on the verge of buying my first rolex
I would go for an explorer II case 42 mm, because even if I like the Sub best, it was a big size watch 20 years ago. Today it looks kind of small (even the supersized case).

I bet in a few year, Rolex will upgrade all its watches to 42 mm over.
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Old 10 April 2011, 05:15 AM   #18
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I have recently gone through the same conundrum.

I went for the GMT II albeit in gold and steel with the ceramic bezel. I never liked the GMT coke or pepsi bezel look and have been waiting for the upgrade for a while.

My view is that I will now add to my collection with a vintage sub with the tritium cream coloured markers which I can't do with a GMT because of the blue and red or black and red bezel which I just can't handle.

Plus the GMT is very useful when travelling with the hour hand moving independently and not stopping the second hand thus keeping accuracy when changing time zones. And of course the 24 hour hand for keeping check of time back home.

All in all a fantastic watch

How often will you be diving below 100m ???
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Old 27 July 2011, 09:19 AM   #19
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I would go for an explorer II case 42 mm, because even if I like the Sub best, it was a big size watch 20 years ago. Today it looks kind of small (even the supersized case).

I bet in a few year, Rolex will upgrade all its watches to 42 mm over.
is this really true, they are going to enlarge the submariners to 42mm in the future?
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Old 10 April 2011, 09:40 PM   #20
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Hi,
Had that dilemma too years ago, Kids in college you know.
It was a choice between GMT II or a Sub. Choice was made based on practicality. I went then for a GMT II basically due to its ability to track time in 2 time zone ( useful in my job then).
Decide on what will be of more use to you currently, then that will console you till you buy the Sub.
Best regards CHeers!
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Old 13 April 2011, 02:43 PM   #21
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i'd go with the submariner
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Old 13 April 2011, 02:45 PM   #22
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GMT after the PCL's have been brushed.
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Old 16 January 2023, 01:26 PM   #23
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Pictures on the gtm with brushed bracelet?
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Old 19 January 2023, 03:45 AM   #24
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Pictures on the gtm with brushed bracelet?
This thread was started nearly twelve years ago, and the OP hasn't posted anything since. Ten pages and 293 posts later, it has taken on a life of its own.

As far as GMT-Master brushed bracelets are concerned, all the four digit and five digit models equipped with Oyster bracelets have brushed center links. Also, many owners of six digit models with Oyster bracelets have had the polished center links and clasps brushed after purchase to avoid the obvious scratches on polished surfaces.

Here's my 2001 16710 with the original brushed bracelet and an aftermarket ceramic bezel insert (the ability to swap bezel inserts is one of the advantages of the 16710).

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Old 15 April 2011, 10:49 AM   #25
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Question is, do you need the GMT function? If not, go for the Sub Date. I did.
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Old 15 April 2011, 11:26 AM   #26
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Not sure if you are talking GMTIIc vs SUBc, or non-ceramics of both. But the "c's" both wear and look different than non c - and I can't wear the c. So as others said, try them on for both look and feel.
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Old 17 April 2011, 01:08 AM   #27
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gmtIIc! is what i say
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Old 28 April 2011, 06:29 PM   #28
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I've got both, but if I could only have one it would probably be the Submariner. There is something about the larger crown that I just really love. The GMT II is a close second though.
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Old 29 April 2011, 02:03 AM   #29
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Old 29 April 2011, 02:20 AM   #30
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I'd be careful that the sub in question is a sub-c (i.e. ceramic bezel). If it's an older submariner, I'd definately go with the GMT IIc.

If it is a sub-c then try both on and see which feels better to you. You can't go wrong with either a GMT IIc or a Sub-c in my opinion.

I've got a GMT IIc and love it (polished centre links are still intact after about 9 months except for the clasp).

Personally I think the green 4th hand gives it something over the sub but that's just personal taste.

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