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Old 10 July 2022, 05:34 PM   #91
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I’ve been buying and selling watches for years, I’ve never been able to get a steel Rolex, AP, Patek at msrp, but that didn’t stop me from buying at grey market, not because I thought it was a good investment but just because I take luxury watches for what they are, a display of wealth and a passion for horology.
In the past grey prices were ok, cause only people with money were buying, then the average joe jumped in and turned it into an investment creating a bubble.
So let’s hope for the hype to decrease even more so most of you dreamers will disappear and we can start enjoying wasting money on luxury goods again.
I bought a yellow OP a week ago knowing it could lose more value, but that made my watch even more exclusive, cause most of you weren’t buying before and won’t definitely buy now, so thank you :)
Wow - are you a Swiss Banker, by any chance?
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Old 10 July 2022, 05:59 PM   #92
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I am so confused that I can not even begin to imagine what the difference between Accuracy and Precision is.

Please could you explain to me and everybody else.

Diagrams and graphs would be very welcome.

Only kidding …….. for those that don’t know yet ……. Perhaps they could look at the thread that is all about the 32xx problems There is a lot that can be learnt there.
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Old 10 July 2022, 08:14 PM   #93
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I agree with you. Few things are less attractive than narrow minded, single issue, old men. Who have no ability to listen and adapt. I understand, as an old man myself, that an excessive emphasis on money, rather than beauty, is one dimensional. And boring. But all the posts here addressing the value that others perceive in Rolex (in other words, what does the market think) are of much greater interest than the bad-tempered ‘stop talking about money” oldies with thousands of ‘what are you wearing?’ posts. I expect an infraction warning. Or this to be deleted. But if the old lions don’t give way to the young lions, the pride dies. And the youngsters on this forum have far more insight and colour to offer than the old complainers.
what an excellent comment

i think most of the people here who are 'siCk oF HeARinG aBouT pRiCE poStS' are the ones who bought at the peak and hate the daily reminders that they made some terrible financial decisions

the market is going down hard, and i cant wait to see this forum when discounts at grey become the norm
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Old 10 July 2022, 09:14 PM   #94
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what an excellent comment

i think most of the people here who are 'siCk oF HeARinG aBouT pRiCE poStS' are the ones who bought at the peak and hate the daily reminders that they made some terrible financial decisions

the market is going down hard, and i cant wait to see this forum when discounts at grey become the norm
Exactly what i think to
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Old 10 July 2022, 09:16 PM   #95
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i think most of the people here who are 'siCk oF HeARinG aBouT pRiCE poStS' are the ones who bought at the peak and hate the daily reminders that they made some terrible financial decisions

the market is going down hard, and i cant wait to see this forum when discounts at grey become the norm


Or perhaps we bought years or decades ago because we like watches.

Good luck and I for one have no interest in where prices go.
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Old 10 July 2022, 09:56 PM   #96
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what an excellent comment

i think most of the people here who are 'siCk oF HeARinG aBouT pRiCE poStS' are the ones who bought at the peak and hate the daily reminders that they made some terrible financial decisions

the market is going down hard, and i cant wait to see this forum when discounts at grey become the norm

You may be waiting for a very long time if this is what you’re holding out for.
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Old 10 July 2022, 10:05 PM   #97
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Or perhaps we bought years or decades ago because we like watches.

Good luck and I for one have no interest in where prices go.
+1

It's a boring subject, and there's a lot of overstatement going on. None of my watches (16610; 5513; and 114300) have fallen in price, and all are discontinued.
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Old 10 July 2022, 10:40 PM   #98
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I am always amazed by how my watches never fall in value…until I try to sell them.
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Old 10 July 2022, 10:57 PM   #99
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I'd rather go through two years of Covid again then pay over MRSP.
Being on a ventilator must have been thrilling for you.
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Old 10 July 2022, 11:51 PM   #100
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I am always amazed by how my watches never fall in value…until I try to sell them.
Agree, far worst drop in value when I try to trade em, even at peak valuations
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Old 11 July 2022, 02:36 AM   #101
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I'd rather go through two years of Covid again then pay over MRSP.
You'd like more deaths, just so you can buy your trinkets?
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Old 11 July 2022, 04:47 AM   #102
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what an excellent comment

i think most of the people here who are 'siCk oF HeARinG aBouT pRiCE poStS' are the ones who bought at the peak and hate the daily reminders that they made some terrible financial decisions

the market is going down hard, and i cant wait to see this forum when discounts at grey become the norm
You will be the old lion by then 😂
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Old 11 July 2022, 06:04 AM   #103
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Why do you keep complaining and coming back here everyday then? I remember last year you wanted to retire. Must be a glutton for punishment. And what value do you add with constant complaining?

Exactly worlds biggest Debbie downer
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Old 11 July 2022, 06:13 AM   #104
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Exactly worlds biggest Debbie downer
It is honestly beyond strange. Posts the same comment on 50% of the threads.

Just shouting into the wind.
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Old 11 July 2022, 06:40 AM   #105
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It is honestly beyond strange. Posts the same comment on 50% of the threads.

Just shouting into the wind.
Because 50% of the threads are the same boring pointless thing?

Irony is a cruel mistress
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Old 11 July 2022, 07:04 AM   #106
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I’m pretty sure 99.9% of the people on all watch forums have no idea what a hairspring is.

I think there are watch maker forums?


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Old 11 July 2022, 07:31 AM   #107
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I’m pretty sure 99.9% of the people on all watch forums have no idea what a hairspring is.

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Old 11 July 2022, 07:38 AM   #108
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You'd like more deaths, just so you can buy your trinkets?

No real different than all the people almost hoping for global economic collapse so that watch prices will come down.
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Old 11 July 2022, 07:41 AM   #109
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Because 50% of the threads are the same boring pointless thing?

Irony is a cruel mistress
Indeed.
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Old 11 July 2022, 10:14 AM   #112
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There was a full set new White Gold Sub that sold for under retail on Moda. A black dial Rolex Submariner 16618 with full links and sticker had a price drop to 28k.
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You must be thinking about Reddit.

I don’t see any posts about hairsprings of watch movements in this forum. Do you? It’s mostly about pictures of Rolex with drinks and in the car. Lol. What forum are you on? Certainly not this one.


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Old 11 July 2022, 11:53 AM   #114
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This was a forum started mainly for about the history and watches made by the RWC over the past 100 odd years. Now today Rolex watches have become little more than ££$$€€ object things and nothing more. The history of the brand has gone, now its value this or that, and silly nicknames, or worring and fretting over the slightest scratch, or a second or so out of 86400 seconds in a day.


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I don’t see any posts about hairsprings of watch movements in this forum. Do you? It’s mostly about pictures of Rolex with drinks and in the car. Lol. What forum are you on? Certainly not this one.


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You need to go to the NAWCC forum for that.
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Old 11 July 2022, 07:55 PM   #116
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This is a very weird topic at present. Prices will rise and fall according to perceived scarcity and desirability.
For Rolex Watches it seems to me there is a base price that does change that much in the longer term and is based on purchase price (original plus current, plus a variable premium based on model). Overlaying this is a short term crazy price / bubble price that is volatile and faddish. Short term corrections to volatility should be expected.
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Old 11 July 2022, 10:52 PM   #118
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You need to go to the NAWCC forum for that.
Good point, how many within the USA here are members of NAWCC... or the AHCI in Europe?

(Yes, am a member of both... even if only to support VERY good people who love horology).
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Old 12 July 2022, 01:48 AM   #119
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Chinese economy is slowing significantly and bank runs is happening all over China, good luck to those who think Chinese money is going to save their so called "investments"!
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My Rolex collection is limited to three pieces, all bought pre owned. None were bought with a view to making a profit; they were what I wanted at the time and I have had some wear from them in my collection. Two were bought in the last few years so I was already paying over the odds really but I think I will still benefit from the deal when I eventually trade them in for a grail piece.
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