5740

[Dayhvac]

How impossible will it be to get a 5740
from an AD with 0 to little history?

Thanks

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

How impossible will it be to get a 5740
from an AD with 0 to little history?

Thanks

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[Dayhvac]

Can't a man dream.....

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

How impossible will it be to get a 5740
from an AD with 0 to little history?

Thanks

As impossible as making the sun rising from the west
Why the question though?

[DK7]

a little less than a lottery win.;-)

[Dayhvac]

My dealer lost patek last year, so i'm basically starting from scratch

I tried to start a relationship with another Ad, bought my wife a lady's rolex and nice necklace, but my SA is terrible. Like she doesn't care about my business at all. So might eventually go grey for it.

[llngoc]

The grey price is actually not much higher than AD price now. So that can be an option.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by llngoc

The grey price is actually not much higher than AD price now. So that can be an option.

This if you have $150k plus to buy from AD - buy it grey for 200k and be happy or spend 500k and maybe get one in a couple years when it’s discontinued and costs 300k or more on the grey market


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[llngoc]

Originally Posted by dauster

This if you have $150k plus to buy from AD - buy it grey for 200k and be happy or spend 500k and maybe get one in a couple years when it’s discontinued and costs 300k or more on the grey market


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Exactly my thought. I think I have seen grey at <$200k now so getting from AD if you don’t already have a solid relationship is not a probable route.

Even if an AD is willing to offer one, it is likely to be next year and another price increase later. So the $200k today is likely to be not much more than what the OP would be paying grey today. Unless OP is looking to build an AD relationship for some other pieces.

Speaking from my personal experience, I have my name and deposit down for the 5740 in 2020 when it was $138k and grey was about $170. I am scheduled to receive it this year at $158. (I hope :-))

[7sins]

Originally Posted by DK7

a little less than a lottery win.;-)

I think you actually have better odds winning the lottery

[Vasco]

Originally Posted by llngoc

Speaking from my personal experience, I have my name and deposit down for the 5740 in 2020 when it was $138k and grey was about $170. I am scheduled to receive it this year at $158. (I hope :-))

Talking about this, I was on the list for the 5236P when around 113K€ (1 yeara go), now it's 140K€. I have a Nautilus I never sold but I'm not really a whale; I learned I really should go grey instead of waiting, loosing time I would have spent with a watch I really would enjoy to wear.

However, I hope you'll get your 5740 soon :)

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Vasco

Talking about this, I was on the list for the 5236P when around 113K€ (1 yeara go), now it's 140K€. I have a Nautilus I never sold but I'm not really a whale; I learned I really should go grey instead of waiting, loosing time I would have spent with a watch I really would enjoy to wear.

However, I hope you'll get your 5740 soon :)

Fingers crossed. My AD had been teasing me about it may show up early, I guess it was all a tease after 2+ years but on my order form, it did say deliver by 12/31/2023. So I guess it should stick.

[V25V]

I do not think the buyer pool for this one is very high. I suspect you should be able to find one on the gray market and negotiate some as well. Yes will be higher than MSRP but you will have to spend far more to get it from an AD and/or may never get it at all.

[DK7]

i think the market price of the 5740 is undervalued, especially compared to the other nautilus. Wonderful piece imho

[Chiboy]

When ADs make you spend such big bucks on other stuff and wait forever so that the logical, economical choice is to go gray…..they have overplayed their hand.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

When ADs make you spend such big bucks on other stuff and wait forever so that the logical, economical choice is to go gray…..they have overplayed their hand.

Been that way for a few years. I mean let’s not forget grey dealers provide excellent service while ADs expect a thorough a** kissing too. The amount of well off people reduced to kissing watch salespeople’s a** the last 5 years is astonishing haha I know I’ve been there.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Been that way for a few years. I mean let’s not forget grey dealers provide excellent service while ADs expect a thorough a** kissing too. The amount of well off people reduced to kissing watch salespeople’s a** the last 5 years is astonishing haha I know I’ve been there.

So true. Its amazing people with that much money allow themselves to play that game, truly makes you think a little. Although many people I know with that much money go gray and do not give a crap paying way over MSRP for whatever they want. They want it, they buy it.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by DK7

i think the market price of the 5740 is undervalued, especially compared to the other nautilus. Wonderful piece imho

Before the 2021-2022 run up, the 5740 was never seeing a big premium. When I ordered mine in 2020, I think the C24 price was only 20% over MSRP so in reality the real market price was probably very little over list.

At the crazy peak, I saw some listed at 500k which I thought it was nuts.

[sensui]

Undervalued compared to other releases. Will be interesting to see what it does in a logical market after discontinuation.

[Dayhvac]

Thinking about trading 3 watches to consolidate/ appease my wife to get it

My 5712g- Vacheron blue overseas dual time and maybe 1 more patek

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Thinking about trading 3 watches to consolidate/ appease my wife to get it

My 5712g- Vacheron blue overseas dual time and maybe 1 more patek

not that you asked but would not do that trade.

[Dayhvac]

Would any of you trade 3 to upgrade to it ?

[seadubs]

Do you wear the 3? Will those 3 be missed? PM Nautilus on bracelet is very special and feels amazing on the wrist

[Dayhvac]

I do, just not sure with the value they are at it presents good opportunity now, and i feel they will be easier to get in the future

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Would any of you trade 3 to upgrade to it ?

No, I would not at this time. I like variety and being able to change things up. If you do it, be sure you absolutely love the 5740 and can live with just it as a one and only. For me, I know this would be impossible and then unloading the 5740 would likely be a challenge. The buyer pool for a 200K watch isnt all too big unless you go to a gray and take that whack. Then you have to re-acquire watches you got rid of or try to buy others. Just not worth it for me and honestly, I find the 5740 dial confusing.....

[ts3]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Would any of you trade 3 to upgrade to it ?

Depending on that third watch I would. The 5712G lacks the Nautilus bracelet and I don't like the current series Overseas. So it would likely be an upgrade, quality over quantity.

Personally I don't want 5740 at any price though. I would have bought it a few years ago at an MSRP of just above EUR 100k. But there were already 10 people ahead at the AD and it remains years away. Now MSRP is EUR 150k and if and when I get the call it may well be 200k. Paying 6x or 8x as much as paid for 5711 blue not long ago feels a little over the top.

[rgff]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Would any of you trade 3 to upgrade to it ?

i traded a 5711, daytona and a calatrava for my 5740

[rgff]

here it is under a warm light.

[Parapraxis]

Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Would any of you trade 3 to upgrade to it ?

What are the 3?

[Dayhvac]

5712g
Vacheron dual time blue
3rd i'm undecided
Maybe a 5167 do or 5164