Tiffany & Co

[Kenrocks]

Dumb newbie question:

Is the watch the same or different when it says Tiffany & co? Is the premium worth it?

I understand Tiffany means luxury jewelry and I understand rarity but for example when a normal MK 6 can be had at 10k with no box no papers or at 15k mint with box and papers, why would someone pay multiples to get the same model with Tiffany & Co?




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[MonBK]

Nobody in his right mind would do that.

[offrdmania]

I consider all Tiffany dial watches redials unless they can show original Tiffany papers confirming its legitimacy.

[Robbyvm]

if not accompanied by the right documents,.... no premium

my 2 cents

[swish77]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

I consider all Tiffany dial watches redials unless they can show original Tiffany papers confirming its legitimacy.

x2. I have no doubt reputable dealers selling these Tiffany-branded watches know the authentic ones, but I'd absolutely only pay more if the watch came with paperwork. Even if it wasn't the Rolex guarantee paper stamped by Tiffany, I'd at least want a Tiffany sales receipt showing the matching serial number.

On a side note, I was at Tiffany's customer service in NYC last month for a non-watch related purchase, and I grilled the representative about the Rolexes they used to sell and whether Tiffany could/would confirm them based on watch serial numbers. Although Tiffany has amazing customer service and keeps records on everything, she said Tiffany would be unable to confirm them. The reason was not entirely clear.

[Cantab]

Aaron, one guess about not confirming watches based on serial numbers could be contingent liability for what could turn out to be a clever counterfeit.

[circles]

Any of you notice how crooked the Tiffany lettering is? It is sloping down to the right.

[dbfagan]

Originally Posted by Cantab

Aaron, one guess about not confirming watches based on serial numbers could be contingent liability for what could turn out to be a clever counterfeit.

It is kind of amazing that Rolex cannot or will not confirm serial numbers that were sold to Tiffany and Co.

[cdweller]

This is not meant to sound sarcastic or judgmental, but can somebody please explain the appeal of the T&C stamp? I can't understand why the store that you purchase your watch at should make any difference in the watches value. I apologize in advance if I am missing something obvious here...

[Cam4034]

Originally Posted by cdweller

This is not meant to sound sarcastic or judgmental, but can somebody please explain the appeal of the T&C stamp? I can't understand why the store that you purchase your watch at should make any difference in the watches value. I apologize in advance if I am missing something obvious here...

Well what other stores have you seen that stamp them with Rolex's permission? There are some but not many and I don't think anyone currently. Just an idea about the rarity, Patek still sells in Tiffanys, I went in and inquired about a nautilus. In time of a restock which are rare and happen only every few months if that only about 6 come to the United States to be distributed, and that's to all US stores to split not 6 to each store. Currently a 200 person waiting list, even if you put a deposit down. Maybe Rolex had more volume then Patek but still.

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by circles

Any of you notice how crooked the Tiffany lettering is? It is sloping down to the right.

I noticed that too

[statsman]

I don't see a particular added value to it. I think Tiffany's is a fine store and very tasteful, but I don't know that a Rolex needs their stamp of approval. Now, if my wife wanted to present me with a box from Tiffanys, and there was a Rolex inside, I would be tickled pink (or egg shell blue, as the case may be).

[Sublovin]

I too have difficulty understanding the appeal. As I understand it, the dials were stamped by Tiffany, correct? In that case, it would be an aftermarket modification.....very unappealing.

[Cam4034]

It's a rare collaboration/ co-brand that's important history for the company. Not many people would see the value added from a cheap Swiss watch to a Rolex either. Most had come pre-stamped. Tiffany stamped all or most replacement dials if I remember correct.

[sprezzatura]

As a tender beginner in the vintage section, I have to say that these luxury-branded - and at times royally-inscribed - tool watches have something strangely compelling, even beautiful, about them.

Simply on the account of their rarity (and thus exclusivity), they command a higher price on the vintage market. I would also have a hard time justifying the premium (especially without the provenance). Yet it is hard not to be taken by this wonderful exercise in contradiction: a transitional 5513 -- now a three-liner with the Tiffany inscription. It somehow embodies that mid-'80s transition to an aspirational luxury item like nothing else. (I did pass on it, as it did not come with any sort of paperwork. And as a newbie, I had no real way of verifying authenticity.)

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by circles

Any of you notice how crooked the Tiffany lettering is? It is sloping down to the right.

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

I noticed that too

x3

[circles]

Originally Posted by sprezzatura

As a tender beginner in the vintage section, I have to say that these luxury-branded - and at times royally-inscribed - tool watches have something strangely compelling, even beautiful, about them.

Simply on the account of their rarity (and thus exclusivity), they command a higher price on the vintage market. I would also have a hard time justifying the premium (especially without the provenance). Yet it is hard not to be taken by this wonderful exercise in contradiction: a transitional 5513 -- now a three-liner with the Tiffany inscription. It somehow embodies that mid-'80s transition to an aspirational luxury item like nothing else. (I did pass on it, as it did not come with any sort of paperwork. And as a newbie, I had no real way of verifying authenticity.)

The Tiffany imprint on that one sure doesn't look very good.

[steversaurus]

Originally Posted by circles

Any of you notice how crooked the Tiffany lettering is? It is sloping down to the right.

It's funny you mention that since it's not the first Tiffany dial that I've seen with crooked lettering.

[sprezzatura]

Originally Posted by circles

The Tiffany imprint on that one sure doesn't look very good.

Can someone post some pictures of authenticated co-branded Tiffany Rolex watches?

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by sprezzatura

As a tender beginner in the vintage section, I have to say that these luxury-branded - and at times royally-inscribed - tool watches have something strangely compelling, even beautiful, about them.

Simply on the account of their rarity (and thus exclusivity), they command a higher price on the vintage market. I would also have a hard time justifying the premium (especially without the provenance). Yet it is hard not to be taken by this wonderful exercise in contradiction: a transitional 5513 -- now a three-liner with the Tiffany inscription. It somehow embodies that mid-'80s transition to an aspirational luxury item like nothing else. (I did pass on it, as it did not come with any sort of paperwork. And as a newbie, I had no real way of verifying authenticity.)

It's very wise for you to have passed on that

[sprezzatura]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

It's very wise for you to have passed on that

I wouldn't say that it was wise, as I am not very well informed on these dials to make an educated decision. It was more of a gut feeling; I was somehow hesitant to pay the premium without any accompanying paperwork.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by sprezzatura

I wouldn't say that it was wise, as I am not very well informed on these dials to make an education decision. It was more of a gut feeling; I was somehow hesitant to pay the premium without any accompanying paperwork.

Well that is wise. I wouldn't buy a Tiffany Rolex with no papers even from the most trusted vintage sellers. It might well be real, but try telling that to the buyer when the time comes for you to sell.