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27 October 2020, 01:18 PM | #1 |
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Can a Rhodium, DJ41 126300 be a timeless daily?
I've put myself on a list for a DJ41 and it turns out I'm next on the list for a rhodium, smooth bezel, oyster bracelet.
I want to buy a Rolex and I've settled on this model as being the best one watch collection at the price point. I only intend on having one luxury watch - my only other watch is a black dialed Seiko diver. I am very romantic about having a one-watch collection, having my kids see photos of me wearing it all the time, and having memories attached to it. Family means a lot to me, and the watch represents that to me (I'm buying it to represent a family, not a personal, milestone). I'm also a bit of a minimalist so I often wear similar things day to day. If getting new from an AD was not an issue, perhaps I'd buy a Submariner date or, if price was not an issue, I'd go for a white gold Day Date 40. But ultimately, within my financial constraints (namely, being unable to rationalize paying over CAD$10,000 for a watch, even though I could probably afford more) I think the DJ41 is the one. Objectively speaking, the only two watches I'd choose over a DJ41 are the Sub Date and Day Date. It is mandatory for me to have a date on the watch because I work in professional services so I'm dating stuff all the time, including when I'm away from a computer/phone, and I can never remember the date - otherwise, I'd consider the Explorer I. After looking through the colours I think rhodium is the best look for me. The white is a bit too stark, the black doesn't seem to work and the blue in the 36 I've tried looks horrible with my skin tone (I have really pale skin so it flushes me out). And the silver I tried is a bit of a champagne tone which I dislike. The two things I keep second guessing are: 1. the dial colour; and 2. the versatility of the DJ41. The colour I doubt because the rhodium looks really flashy and weird in some pictures on the internet, but sometimes it looks more like a subtle sunburst charcoal - I think a dark grey looks good on pale skin because it doesn't contrast too much from the bracelet. The versatility concern is that it is too flashy - I don't want something so shiny that it has a "look at me" vibe to it. I'm a pretty humble but successful guy and I do think I dress well but try to keep things subtle. So, I guess my questions are: Is the DJ41 in smooth/oyster/rhodium configuration versatile for a one watch collection (given my constraints)? Can it dress down and dress up well? Is the dial a bit more subtle in person? I've basically decided that the oyster/smooth suits me best, and I think it will be versatile enough with the rhodium dial, and not too flashy, but I do want someone to let me know if there's something I'm not considering. I'm a pretty frugal guy, and happy to buy something I enjoy, but concerned about buyer's remorse so just want to make sure I consider everything. Overall, I think I'm sold on the DJ41 rhodium, but I'm about 80% of the way there and want to go into the decision 100% confident. |
27 October 2020, 01:31 PM | #2 |
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I think you are definitely on the right path. Once you see it in person, you will know immediately.
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27 October 2020, 01:35 PM | #3 |
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1. Did you try it on? Pictures and videos are one thing but actually seeing it in the flesh is something else.
I was seriously considering the dark rhodium / smooth bezel / jubilee variant of the DJ41. I tried one at an AD and found it wore too large for my taste and the dial made the time hard to read for me, because it blended with the white-gold applique of the dials and hour markers. The contrast was poor with the dial, I would even say unreadable were it not for the lume material. 2. If you try it on and it really sings to you, then you have a winner. 3. It almost sounds like you are still considering the sub date, but discarded that option due to the price.... That is a mistake in my opinion. The relative small extra amount you'd pay at retail is worth it if that's more desirable to you than the DJ41 (presuming you can get a sub at retail, which seems feasible given the number of incoming threads on the forum). In general I would say do not settle for something in place of the thing your heart desires most. It won't scratch the itch. And if the DD is going to be your long-term grail, I'd say getting the sub date is a more viable option for now, since you could sell that down the road (and actually make profit) when you are ready to commit for a larger purchase on the DD. |
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Seems decision is done, hope AD delivers it fast!
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So when I say I cannot handle the Sub Date price I mean the grey market premium. I do think I like the Sub Date more, quite clearly, if not for the simple fact that it basically has one variation so there is less choice involved. And of course it is iconic. But I cannot reasonably be parting with CAD$15,000+ on the grey market (the ceramic Subs are closer to CAD$20,000). It's just not in my nature to buy something that expensive, even though I could afford it. Maybe you're getting to the heart of my concern - maybe deep down I'm worried the DJ41 won't scratch my itch. I really can't say... If that is the case, maybe the worst case scenario is I sell the DJ41 after some years of wear and lose a couple grand on it (they're trading above retail right now but who knows how long that lasts), or when I'm in a financial position where I could afford to buy 5 Sub Dates, I'll feel more comfortable buying one and adding it to the DJ41. |
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27 October 2020, 01:46 PM | #6 |
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I think the smooth bezel and oyster are a mistake. But that’s just me. Rolex makes it in that configuration for a reason (unbeknownst to me, lol).
Plenty of people getting Subs without prior purchase history. If that’s what you want, hold out for it. |
27 October 2020, 01:51 PM | #7 |
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DJ41 Rhodium can be a one and done. Also, take a look at the OP41 in Silver.
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27 October 2020, 01:51 PM | #8 |
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Your input is appreciated! I've never bought a luxury watch before so I'm not really sure how to play the AD game, but my local AD who I share a close mutual friend with told me that Rolex Canada won't let them keep crazy wait lists and lead people on, and he told me it'd be a hell of a long wait. As mentioned above I live in a wealthy city where people spend tons of money on luxury goods so it may be a geographical issue. Or I'm getting BS'ed by the AD...
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27 October 2020, 01:52 PM | #9 |
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Need a date. If I didn't need a date, I'd get an Explorer I 39mm in a heart beat. But no point having a wrist watch if it doesn't fulfill a key need of mine (sometimes the date function is used more than the time function for me).
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27 October 2020, 01:55 PM | #10 |
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Then a DJ41 in Rhodium or White are very versatile and classic one-watch options.
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Oyster bracelet and smooth bezel will certainly make it a daily wearer option. I would like to get one at some point as well, but it certainly won’t be winning any popularity or desirability contest. But if you like how it wears and looks on your wrist, you can not go wrong with it. It’s still a Rolex, and that does count for a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Also consider the silver dial. Very neutral and can be more so than the rhodium as it’s lighter and makes the bracelet bezel blend seamless
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I have worn mine as a casual watch with jeans, out for dinner, on the beach, out walking in the Lake District, and moving stone flower pots where I put a nice scratch on the clasp. The watch really is a go anywhere, do anything, friend on your wrist. A few pictures for you. Good luck making your choice
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Lots of doubts OP;
Why not wait for something that you instantly fall in love with and save some more ? A one time purchase should be spot on. The Rhodium dial is beautiful and goes with everything, the sunburst is not too much if that is what you are afraid of. Your the first on the list because the configuration you opted for is not really popular. Smooth bezel and Oyster makes the DJ looking dull and boring in my eyes. Personally I would want the fluted bezel on any DJ, it’s Rolex signature and the way the light plays with it is beautiful. Add a Jubilee and you have the perfect watch. Any Rolex is daily wearer material imho. They all can take a beating. Even a DD goes well with shorts
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27 October 2020, 06:06 PM | #15 |
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I would go with the idea of waiting for what you actually want, rather for settling just because it's a Rolex. Considering the financial outlay. If you make a mistake and sell on, it will cost you. You will see someone wearing a submariner, then feel v glum. There is no rush typically!...
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I’ve been lucky enough to have the watches you mention. Including the white gold DayDate and the rhodium dial Datejust.
I’m also, these days, a ‘one watch’ guy. Personally, I’d avoid the Submariner. For the long-haul it has too much baggage, too cliched. The true classic is the Datejust, which avoids the ‘look at me’ issue of the sub, and us genuinely timeless as a design. For the long-haul, I’d suggest smooth bezel (less obtrusive) and Jubilee bracelet. Don’t see how you could go wrong. Rhodium or blue dial. Then just forget all this and just enjoy your lovely watch. Best way to own a Rolex, one model, loyally worn. |
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Purely personal tastes, but I find smooth and oyster isn't the most attractive option. With the large amount of polished surfaces it lacks any sort of texture to me. I also think the oyster makes it wear and look a lot bigger.
Jubilee is (imo) the way to go with almost every form of DJ41. This is the time where I wheel out one of my favourite pictures (not mine) on the internet.... |
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I bought my Datejust II in 2012 on a white dial with smooth bezel thinking it was going to be my one and only watch. Personally I love the Rhodium dial and if I had a choice I would have chosen it to be my first Rolex. It's just so versatile; can look sporty and dressy at the same time. Spotted one of my favorite comedian Anthony Jeselnik wearing it a while ago, although he's wearing it on Jubilee bracelet, equally stunning.
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Smooth bezel on jubilee is much better, but fluted on jubilee FTW!
I'd say stop thinking about cost. If this is going to be your one and done, save a little more an go grey if you have to. Grey Sub41s aren't going for an arm and leg around here (I realize that's relative). After a week (or less) of ownership, you'll have forgotten that you spent a teeny bit more but you'll have what you really want. Last thing you want is buyer's remorse. You'll end up selling the DJ at a slight lost and end up with the Sub, anyway. In the long run, you'll spend more that way. Buy once. Cry once. Then nothing but smiles from there on out. Cheers! |
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Of course. But, then again, just about any watch in the line up could be. I think you're overthinking it too much.
As another poster said, don't force it. Fall in love with a watch and then go get it. |
28 October 2020, 12:35 AM | #21 |
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Input appreciated
Thanks everyone for your input. I think the main takeaway is that when the watch arrives in, if I am not completely head over heels with it (if there is compromise in my mind), then I should just walk away.
If this ends up happening, I'm going to go back to the drawing board to get a SubC with date function. If it means waiting a few years until I'm okay with the price, so be it. Greatly appreciate all of you. This has been an illuminating thread, and of course more input is welcome!!! |
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Right now my collection (if you can call it that) consists of only one watch...DJ 41, Rhodium, Fluted, Jubilee...
I've only worn it with shorts and t shirts through out covid, and jeans once, but to me its and all round timeless piece, and until I can get a BLNR or Sub it's my daily! I'll say this too, I thought I would end up with the black dial, if you know me that's just what I would automatically buy, but I went the Rhodium route and I absolutely love it. I can't really explain why but I just love it, it just "flows" well with that watch if that makes any sense at all. |
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It can definitely be a one watch ‘collection.’ I have a 126300 black dial, but on jubilee. Obviously, you can easily dress it up, but, you can just as easily dress it down, especially on oyster. It can go with everything.
In fact, I am actually about to go down to just a DJ41 as a one and only myself. I purchased a 126333 and found I can wear it in way more situations than I would have imagined. I am now thinking of selling my Sub I just purchased a couple weeks ago, along with the 126300 and others, to get some cash back, considering I’ll be happy with just the Date Just. I say go for it, rhodium is my favorite dial by far among the SS DJ41s. Good luck! |
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Basically the same watch I ordered and for the same reason. The dial, bracelet and bezel are timeless.
Hope it scratches that itch for you!
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A Submariner date on DavidSW right now would cost me about USD$12,500, which is CAD$16,500 or so, which would have about $3,000 in duties/taxes attached to it. So it would be about CAD$19,500, give or take $500. That is for a 116610LN, and even a 16610 pre-ceramic would be over CAD$15,000 if you include taxes and duties. The Datejust 41, inclusive of taxes, brand new from the AD, will cost me approximately CAD$10,000. So a Sub from DavidSW is 50% to 100% more expensive - hard to rationalize! Let's say the Datejust 41 for me is a 9.1/10 and the Submariner is a 9.9/10. That's probably how I see them. It is hard to justify paying 50% to 100% more. So I would be "settling", but then again it is unrealistic to treat them as all things equal when really it costs about double to buy it from the grey market. Perhaps what I'll do is buy a Submariner in a decade or so when I have another million or more to throw around, and have more than a one watch collection. By then, I may want a Daytona for the weekends! One thing I'm learning from this is that a one watch collection is very difficult if you're deeply into watches. Maybe I need to change my mentality to: wear the Datejust 41 for a decade, then when I can easily afford it get a ceramic Sub Date or a pre-ceramic Daytona. My wife and I just chatted and it may be fun to get a new watch for each decade of my life - that would be really fun! I think my indecisiveness is really rooted in me wanting a one and done. |
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^^^ hard to rationalize indeed. And fwiw, I don’t like my sub even nearly as much as my DJ41. The sub is a great watch, but I feel it has so much interest because it has so much interest.
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Before getting the DJ41, just give a call around to the ADs and have an honest conversation. You'll end up with the watch you actually want (Sub date) before the end of 2021 at RRP, I really believe that!
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