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15 December 2018, 08:10 PM | #1 |
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Beautiful Gilt 5512
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I have been looking for a high quality gilt GMT or Sub for a while now (I posted pics and dets of a gilt GMT earlier this week and the feedback was really helpful so a big thank you!) and on my way to viewing the said GMT in person I popped into another dealer I had been speaking to about a great looking gilt 5512 last quarter '62 (engraved on inside of case) (pics attached) and seeing it again blew me away - it's a stunner from the dial to the case to the bezel (top to toe I guess!). I have now decided this is the watch for me (over the gilt GMT) but I have a couple questions: 1) Do you think the dial has been re-lumed at all? The only thing that's making me query it is there appears to be a tiny bit of lume that comes over the triangle edge at 12 o'clock (top right hand corner). 2) It has a 1530 movement and butterfly rotor which is all correct I believe but when I tried to wind the watch it felt pretty coarse/grainy only getting a bit smoother after a few good winds which is not something I've ever experienced before with my vintage Rolex. The seller (who's a good sort) reckons it's just because it's already wound from wearing it as a daily. The other thing I noticed was when I went to adjust the time backwards/anti-clock wise a few minutes there was a bit of resistance and the seconds hand started flickering and wanting to go backwards! The watch does keep good time and the power reserve does hold up for a good 2-3 days so I badly want these things to be small issues that could be resolved by a more thorough service... I know you guys are not watch technicians but if anyone has ever experienced this sort of mechanical issues please do chime in with any advice! Many thanks, Mike. |
15 December 2018, 08:32 PM | #2 |
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I would expect to see the gilt surroundings around some of the lume.
Like this one: http://shear.vaesite.net/product/196...ner-ref-5512-5
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Some more pics
Some more pics if it helps...
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Nicely faded bezel btw.
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16 December 2018, 04:00 AM | #8 |
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Second that the dial looks redone but amazing job done with it. From a collectors point on view some people might frown but I would wear that proudly....just my 2 cents
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Thanks for very much your thoughts....it is stunning in the flesh....even nicer than the photos portray....it's a lot of money though so I may have to leave it if it is a relume. A bit gutting !
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How much did he ask you for this example? Asking because I got offered 5512 too (price on request) just exploring the prices atm.
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The 4 line versions of the same era are a big jump up in price...seems that these 2 liners come out about the same as similar period gilt 5513's. |
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Shouldn't this dial have radium lumes? If so, check it also using a Geiger meter.
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No papers. I haven't seen a really good example for under 30K. I have seen a few nice gilt 5513's from 25K. But I'm buying from retail shops not direct from other collectors which should be cheaper I imagine... at that money I want at least a 1 year warranty for some peace of mind!
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Yes and as you say it's the other thing I should do as well as the UV light test but I have neither tools atm and I think the dealer would be funny about it... I think I may have leave it with some regret...!
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Any test shouldn't be a problem. If he is funny about it he can go pound sand.
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Get an olloclip for your phone and post a macro of several of the lume plots. Also, surely the guy will let you take in a simple handheld UV flashlight? If not, then there’s your answer. In your first pic, it looks relumed...the material looks almost glossy and looks to be reflecting light. The subsequent pics look better... Here’s an example of $10 eBay macro Clip shot I took (do better than I did on lighting!): Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Thanks Roh - you are right re the price - he would like to sell this watch for over 40K but I happened with him when the watch first came in and he offered it to me in the spur of the moment at 30K... and has agreed to honour the deal... which he is a bit annoyed about now he knows better what it's worth.... all of which is making it a bit tricky to go back and forth with these questions re lume etc!
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19 December 2018, 03:18 AM | #24 |
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Thanks Roh. Would you be able to post a pic of a really good gloss dial example? I think this watch's gloss is fairly good but I don't think you could describe it as 'mirror' imho..
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You could just upload the video on imgur and share a link, it should work.
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