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Old 26 May 2017, 12:50 AM   #91
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Wow! Hard to believe some of these comments. I have a RO 15400
I bought used ( about 8 mos old) w box and papers about 3 years ago. I enjoy wearing it frequently and although I am always working on repairs on my rental properties, I have never had a problem w it. I just bought a Panda ( about 6mos old) w box and papers and love it! Frankly although I sent the warrenty papers in I really don't care about warrenty. I have 3 pp's including a Nautilus I love, 2 Rolex's , 3 Audemars- all purchased w box and papers used-anyone of which I can always sell and get what I paid and on most make a substantial profit. Do you homework, be sure to get box and papers and enjoy a wonderful timepiece- dare I say investment ?
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Old 26 May 2017, 12:53 AM   #92
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Here they are
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Old 26 May 2017, 12:57 AM   #93
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Whoops that was a Breitling I want to sell ha! Here is the other RO
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Old 26 May 2017, 01:53 AM   #94
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So my takeaway from this thread is that APs are finicky and expensive to maintain. But beautiful. I find it hard to believe that modern sports watches like AP or PP are that delicate.
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Old 4 September 2017, 10:55 AM   #95
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Anything specific to look out for when buying a 44mm Novelty that's a few years old from a trusted seller (box, papers). One in particular I wanted has just been serviced.

It's a 2015 I Series.

I prefer the now "discontinued" novelties and have read the forum endlessly but would appreciate any advice
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Originally Posted by ros View Post
Anything specific to look out for when buying a 44mm Novelty that's a few years old from a trusted seller (box, papers). One in particular I wanted has just been serviced.

It's a 2015 I Series.

I prefer the now "discontinued" novelties and have read the forum endlessly but would appreciate any advice
Just make sure the service was done by APSC. I would also ask why a 2 year old watch was just serviced.

Also, if you have not yet seen both watches side by side, head on over to selfridges as they have both watches currently.
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Old 4 September 2017, 02:58 PM   #97
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Great advice thanks !!
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Old 2 October 2017, 07:55 AM   #98
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I hope this can become a sticky on the AP Forum as I believe a lot of people considering buying a pre-owned AP would benefit from the advice I am giving out.

Always keep in mind the following when making a purchase of a pre-owned AP. Especially when buying a Royal Oak or a Royal Oak Offshore.

1. If you own a vintage AP and don't know the service history on the watch do not send it in for service at AP unless it stops running. Don't let an independent watchmaker work on a vintage AP no matter what. The money you save today, you'll have to pay it tomorrow.

2. If you buy a pre-owned modern AP RO or ROO try to get one that is not very old (F series and up) ideally with some service history and in overall great shape. Don't by a beater even if it's a good deal! You'll pay the difference afterwards.

3. If you buy a 5402 be very careful with the crown and avoid using the quick-set calendar advance feature that comes with cal. 2121. (While the watch doesn't have a date setting crown position, you can quickly advance the date by going with the hands past midnight to around 1am or 2am and then back to 10pm to adjust the date without having to go around 24hrs for each day). This is not an isolated case as on the four 5402s that I've owned I always had problems with the crown stem breaking and the crown coming off will pulling it out to set the time. On one of them this happened twice in a two-year period. When pulling the crown out to set the time, pull very slowly! Another thing to consider will be to wind the watch via the crown by turning it no more than 5-7 turns.

4. On 5402s even after being serviced, AP doesn't guarantee any water-resistance. Don't even get it wet while washing your hands.

5. If you buy a ROO (Pre F-series) make sure it comes with service papers or service history. Otherwise stay away, unless you know the owner or the watch is really flawless.

6. Do not have the watch or bezel polished by independents. You might lose the AP bevels and bezel will become rounded over time and thin out. AP uses a special machine to keep the octagonal shape intact and polished/brushed areas perfectly balanced.

7. If you buy an AP still under warranty make sure to get the warranty registered and get your third year sticker. If the warranty is close to expire send the watch in and work will be done under warranty giving you another 2 years.

8. If you open a case back on a ROO do not attempt to open the anti-magnetic casing that holds the movement inside as those screws are very delicate. If you open the case back you are voiding any warranty on the watch as AP will know it was opened. Get it pressured test it if you do.

9. If you want to go AP make sure you have done your research, tried the watch on and have money ready for the service when the time comes. As Ken accurately mentioned, the service on modern APs will be expensive but not as expensive as it is on a Vintage piece like mine unless something is seriously wrong or other watchmakers before your ownership messed up the movement.

10. Stay away from a RO Quartz as changing the battery is something that needs to be done every 2-3 years. To change the battery you need to disassemble the whole watch. Remove the bezel, dial, hands, crown, etc. to access the movement and then replace the battery. If done by an independent there are a ton of things that can go wrong. Then again you will need to have AP do it and it gets really pricey even when it's just a battery change as they will still force you to do a periodic service.

I hope other owners and future owners learn from my experience and use this advice moving forward. I would hate to see anyone else go through the ordeals I've been dealing with this week.
Grate article. Follow advise got a new 15400.03 from AD .
Thanks good Advise.
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Old 21 November 2017, 07:03 AM   #99
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Thanks for the great information. AP is definitely on my radar and it's a timepiece that I really want to own in the near future!
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Old 9 December 2017, 09:14 AM   #100
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What happened around the F series? Why do you use this as a delineating time frame?

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Old 16 January 2018, 11:35 AM   #101
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Great Advice!
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Old 1 March 2018, 01:41 PM   #102
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I just found this thread and it is excellent advice! There are good deals on beat up pieces and I have seen polish jobs from watchmakers and can tell you that they do not even come close to how AP refinishes. These specific polishing wheels are only located in Clearwater FL and I have yet to see a polish job come out looking AP factory fresh! So great advice and thanks!
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Old 21 March 2018, 10:10 PM   #103
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Hello AP enthusiasts, I'm new to the forum. Hoping that some of you can answer my doubts.

Just last week, I was offered a very good deal of AP15202ST Blue Dial, year of 2016. I was very interested with AP15400 blue dial actually until I saw the AP15202ST in person. I was blown away.

Anyway, the AP15202ST comes with a deep scratch on the bracelet. Is it a good idea to polish the bracelet? I've heard that polishing may drop the watch value on certain models.

Or is it possible to just change the 1 plate of the bracelet?

I live in Jakarta Indonesia and we don't have AP service center here. Can you recommend the nearest one?

Please let me know what you think.

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Old 25 April 2018, 07:33 AM   #104
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Hi and thanks for the info. I've just ordered a pre-owned ROO, a 140800ST, D series. Thankfully I purchased it from an AP dealer. They advised me they inspected the watch and found it keeping time within limits. They also warranty the watch for 15 months. It's a great looking watch, black dial, stainless steel. Also have a AP boutique here in Las Vegas that is a service center.
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Old 10 July 2018, 01:43 AM   #105
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Valuable info. Thanks
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