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Old 28 November 2017, 10:37 AM   #31
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As reasonable expectation as that is, I donít recall reading that AP gives such an extension
Then you should request it. Why should you be inconvenienced and deprived of the ability to wear it through their incompetence?
A week or two, tops, Iíd give the brand a bye-ball, but when youíre into 2 months or more, not a chance.
Executing a fix at no cost is not compensation for it going wrong in the first place Ė thatís a mandatory obligation.


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Never get a 3126 powered Offshore out of warranty.
Why?
Youíre saving money based on the fact the watch has sustained wear and tear to all elements of it.
Any negotiating is going to be in line with ensuring all or most of the necessary funds are accounted for, in case it needs a service within the first 2-3 years of ownership.
Anyone not thinking along those lines when considering any pre-owned/NOS purchase needs their head examined Ė or theyíve simply got more money than sense or know what to do with.
Buying pre-owned is often the smartest way to get the best value for the expenditure.
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Old 28 November 2017, 12:38 PM   #32
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Itís certainly frustrating to spend a decent amount on a time piece and then experience quality issues.

Although their service centers are excellent, Iíd rather not know them on a first name basis
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Old 28 November 2017, 03:23 PM   #33
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Then you should request it. Why should you be inconvenienced and deprived of the ability to wear it through their incompetence?
A week or two, tops, I’d give the brand a bye-ball, but when you’re into 2 months or more, not a chance.
Executing a fix at no cost is not compensation for it going wrong in the first place – that’s a mandatory obligation.




Why?
You’re saving money based on the fact the watch has sustained wear and tear to all elements of it.
Any negotiating is going to be in line with ensuring all or most of the necessary funds are accounted for, in case it needs a service within the first 2-3 years of ownership.
Anyone not thinking along those lines when considering any pre-owned/NOS purchase needs their head examined – or they’ve simply got more money than sense or know what to do with.
Buying pre-owned is often the smartest way to get the best value for the expenditure.
Why?

There are problems that come with wear & tear.

There are other problems that come with Calibre defects off the production line. In case you can’t comprehend the difference, please have yourself examined.
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Old 29 November 2017, 01:38 AM   #34
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No need, I’m fine – and I’ve the certificate of origin to prove it!

You can’t advocate to steer clear of pre-owned watches like the ROOC purely because a few owners have had a shared experience of theirs being faulty.
When buying a used watch, irrespective of brand, you make sure you buy at a price that takes into account its age, condition, and that if it needs a repair, you still come out financially better off than if just bought brand new – that’s plain ol’ common sense.

By way of example using numbers…

Watch A – brand new, 3 years warranty, $30K MRSP, can be had for $25K.
Watch B – 3-4 years old, no service history, priced at $21K, pretty mint apart from buckle showing usual desk diving wear.

Straight away you’re up 4K, but no-one ever pays the asking price, so you negotiate another 800-1500 off, knowing if it needs a service or repair, you’re still well up.

In other words, there is absolutely no rhyme nor reason for giving secondhand modern day watches a wide berth, and to suggest doing so is just plain daft.
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Old 29 November 2017, 01:53 AM   #35
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No need, I’m fine – and I’ve the certificate of origin to prove it!

You can’t advocate to steer clear of pre-owned watches like the ROOC purely because a few owners have had a shared experience of theirs being faulty.
When buying a used watch, irrespective of brand, you make sure you buy at a price that takes into account its age, condition, and that if it needs a repair, you still come out financially better off than if just bought brand new – that’s plain ol’ common sense.

By way of example using numbers…

Watch A – brand new, 3 years warranty, $30K MRSP, can be had for $25K.
Watch B – 3-4 years old, no service history, priced at $21K, pretty mint apart from buckle showing usual desk diving wear.

Straight away you’re up 4K, but no-one ever pays the asking price, so you negotiate another 800-1500 off, knowing if it needs a service or repair, you’re still well up.

In other words, there is absolutely no rhyme nor reason for giving secondhand modern day watches a wide berth, and to suggest doing so is just plain daft.
I agree with your logic here. However the spread would need to be larger for me to buy out of warranty and used in this hypothetical scenario. There are issues and its more than a few and repair bills would negate a lot of the savings. Im not saying its a bad idea just that they savings need to be enough to still be a good deal with a potential repair factored in. Taking the savings down to 2k or less, i see no benefit of buying used and out of warranty.
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Old 29 November 2017, 02:59 AM   #36
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Don’t fixate on the actual numbers, they were mostly plucked out of thin air purely to illustrate the illogical nature of decrying buying a used ROOC just because it might need more than just a service.
The point being that if buying from a reputable dealer, they will provide their own 12 month warranty on such watches, and if you did need APSC to fix the one you’ve bought, you’ll have 2 years warranty thereafter to benefit from or pass on to the new owner (should you decide to move it on for whatever reason).
Each person will decide for themselves what the cost saving means to them and if it’s worth it – just like they do when justifying spending that sort of money on a watch in the first place.
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Old 29 November 2017, 05:34 AM   #37
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Donít fixate on the actual numbers, they were mostly plucked out of thin air purely to illustrate the illogical nature of decrying buying a used ROOC just because it might need more than just a service.
The point being that if buying from a reputable dealer, they will provide their own 12 month warranty on such watches, and if you did need APSC to fix the one youíve bought, youíll have 2 years warranty thereafter to benefit from or pass on to the new owner (should you decide to move it on for whatever reason).
Each person will decide for themselves what the cost saving means to them and if itís worth it Ė just like they do when justifying spending that sort of money on a watch in the first place.
I am agree with you but!
But I buy it from Boutique new, unworn Friday and Monday go back because the watch are defects. What I do wrong my friend?
Onesty maybe in UE itís better to buy it on line new or preowned because in a case like my case I can send it back in 30 day and money back.
I buy from AP Boutique and in this case even I buy the watch Friday and Monday morning go back the watch itís not change and you can ask for total refound.
And after the watch come back from service after 2 week stop again!
I love AP ROO but I preffer to wait till they launch new in house movement.
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Old 29 November 2017, 09:50 AM   #38
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I am agree with you but!
But I buy it from Boutique new, unworn Friday and Monday go back because the watch are defects. What I do wrong my friend?
Onesty maybe in UE itís better to buy it on line new or preowned because in a case like my case I can send it back in 30 day and money back.
I buy from AP Boutique and in this case even I buy the watch Friday and Monday morning go back the watch itís not change and you can ask for total refound.
And after the watch come back from service after 2 week stop again!
I love AP ROO but I preffer to wait till they launch new in house movement.
With their track record, older movement is still problematic. How you expect a new movement to be reliable?
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Old 29 November 2017, 12:11 PM   #39
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Call directly the APSC center in Florida

you should try an contact directly the APSC center in Florida (727) 467-0940. I contact them regurlarly and the girls at the Center are extreemly helpful. Besides just trying to send the watchvto get looked at.. worst is theyll tell you you will have to pay extra for fixing it. If you decline just pay the shipping back. BUT FIRST speak with the girls at that APSC. Where did you buy the watch? since when has the warranty been running?? Now some watches warramtiers run al the way up to 5 yrs. Let me know what they say at the APSC
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Old 9 December 2017, 02:27 PM   #40
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Unfortunately you can add me to the list. As soon as I take it off 10 hours later it's hours behind. What can you do. First problem I've had with AP.
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