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patrolmi · 21 February 2017, 05:30 AM

I figure I should pass this one along. I was the low bidder on a Tudor 89190-- it was being sold by an ebay seller with very good and very recent feedback..in Russia. (I know). After the sale ended, in haste, I pretty much immediately paid for the watch with paypal- and about 10 seconds later SCAM alarms went off in my head. Sure enough, I went back and the pics were actually of different watches (from pic to pic). So now what!!

I put an immediate dispute in with both Paypal and Ebay. I tried contacting the seller but of course no answer. Paypal was holding the money still- so the risk of losing it seemed to be reduced quite a bit. After numerous attempts to contact the seller, I got no response. I contacted paypal, who assured me that the money was definitely not being released until an investigation. Right after this, Ebay deleted the item-- apparently the must have had firm knowledge that the ebay account had been hijacked. (This hijacked account had positive feedback from as recent as a few days prior- and was a pretty active seller >300 ratings) After ebay deleted it, Paypal refunded. If ebay had not deleted it, I think it was going to get a lot more complicated-Paypal told me at least seven days before they even look at the next step. I still think I was going to be protected by Paypal, although the guy there told me I was very lucky to have caught this so fast..... which made me think they must have a million ways of worming out of a fraudulent transaction.

I have had a few purchases from Russia that went ok- and I don't even necessarily know if that was a factor here-- but who knows. I just thought I should pass this along- first don't be an idiot like I was not even noticing that the pics were different- and second- make sure to follow your gut -- that is really what saved me here (although gut was a little slow). This was a $1200 transaction so it wasn't a huge amount and it made me think they might be fishing at that lower dollar level as people might be less suspicious.

Lordofrolex · 21 February 2017, 05:43 AM

close call

jwkunkle · 21 February 2017, 05:56 AM

eBay and Russia seems like a dicey combo for watch buying...

superstarmar · 21 February 2017, 06:12 AM

No Russia watch buying for me...
I'll stick to the US... Enough scammers here as well don't need
to add anymore possibilities of getting scammed ...
Glad you caught it fast...

crowncollection · 21 February 2017, 06:21 AM

Close call indeed

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21 February 2017, 05:30 AM	#1
patrolmi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 170	Almost scammed story I figure I should pass this one along. I was the low bidder on a Tudor 89190-- it was being sold by an ebay seller with very good and very recent feedback..in Russia. (I know). After the sale ended, in haste, I pretty much immediately paid for the watch with paypal- and about 10 seconds later SCAM alarms went off in my head. Sure enough, I went back and the pics were actually of different watches (from pic to pic). So now what!! I put an immediate dispute in with both Paypal and Ebay. I tried contacting the seller but of course no answer. Paypal was holding the money still- so the risk of losing it seemed to be reduced quite a bit. After numerous attempts to contact the seller, I got no response. I contacted paypal, who assured me that the money was definitely not being released until an investigation. Right after this, Ebay deleted the item-- apparently the must have had firm knowledge that the ebay account had been hijacked. (This hijacked account had positive feedback from as recent as a few days prior- and was a pretty active seller >300 ratings) After ebay deleted it, Paypal refunded. If ebay had not deleted it, I think it was going to get a lot more complicated-Paypal told me at least seven days before they even look at the next step. I still think I was going to be protected by Paypal, although the guy there told me I was very lucky to have caught this so fast..... which made me think they must have a million ways of worming out of a fraudulent transaction. I have had a few purchases from Russia that went ok- and I don't even necessarily know if that was a factor here-- but who knows. I just thought I should pass this along- first don't be an idiot like I was not even noticing that the pics were different- and second- make sure to follow your gut -- that is really what saved me here (although gut was a little slow). This was a $1200 transaction so it wasn't a huge amount and it made me think they might be fishing at that lower dollar level as people might be less suspicious.

21 February 2017, 05:43 AM	#2
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	close call __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

21 February 2017, 06:21 AM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Close call indeed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

21 February 2017, 05:56 AM	#3
jwkunkle 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Josh Location: Indiana Watch: The Next One Posts: 645	eBay and Russia seems like a dicey combo for watch buying...

21 February 2017, 06:12 AM	#4
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	No Russia watch buying for me... I'll stick to the US... Enough scammers here as well don't need to add anymore possibilities of getting scammed ... Glad you caught it fast...

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