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Old 27 January 2020, 01:21 PM   #1
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Genuine Rolex Datejust Dial Non-luminous?

Did Rolex make a non luminous DJ in 1997? I noticed most dials have the word T Swiss at the bottom and have luminous hands/dial. The one I like just says Swiss Made. The watch I found doesn’t have any luminous hands or markings on the dial.

Can it be real? Will try to post pics but since I’m new to the forum I can’t post links.
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Old 27 January 2020, 01:36 PM   #2
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Besides Roman Numerals i believe some were non luminous, wide boys?

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Old 27 January 2020, 01:43 PM   #3
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Did Rolex make a non luminous DJ in 1997?
Yes.
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I noticed most dials have the word T Swiss at the bottom and have luminous hands/dial. The one I like just says Swiss Made. The watch I found doesn’t have any luminous hands or markings on the dial.
This was around the time of the transition away from tritium for lume, along with its "T-Swiss-T" and "Swiss-T <25" dial designations. Going forward, it was "Swiss Made" or just "Swiss".
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Can it be real?
Yes. Post pics when you can to confirm.
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Old 27 January 2020, 05:09 PM   #4
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Possibly service dial
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Old 28 January 2020, 12:11 AM   #5
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I was able to figure out how to upload an image.

Here is the dial. The watch is supposed to be a 16234 "U" serial number from 1997. My hunch is the dial is not original but instead swapped out with an older dial.

1. Does having an older/non-original dial significantly decrease the watch value?

2. Is the dial authentic?

Thanks so much for your help. Newbie to the Rolex world and really enjoying the education.
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Old 28 January 2020, 12:20 AM   #6
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It’s fine.
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Old 28 January 2020, 02:15 AM   #7
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its quite possibly a newer service dial
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Old 28 January 2020, 03:09 AM   #8
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It’s not a service dial. I’ve had one, same year and non inverted Roman numerals.
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Old 28 January 2020, 04:03 AM   #9
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It’s not a service dial. I’ve had one, same year and non inverted Roman numerals.
Thanks so much. Learn so much for you all. I didn’t realize there was a distinction based upon direction of the Roman numerals.

Does anyone know what year Rolex started inverting the Roman numerals?
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Old 28 January 2020, 04:15 AM   #10
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Thanks for replies. I didn’t notice the nuance of the inverted roman numerals until now.

Does anyone know what year Rolex stopped producing the non-inverted dial for the datejust?
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Old 28 January 2020, 08:30 AM   #11
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Looks fine


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Old 28 January 2020, 05:48 PM   #12
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It’s not a service dial. I’ve had one, same year and non inverted Roman numerals.
As in replaced during service. I think it may be later than 1997.
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Old 28 January 2020, 06:48 PM   #13
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Old 29 January 2020, 04:17 AM   #14
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Im not a Datejust guy but that is a fine looking watch.
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Old 30 January 2020, 11:28 AM   #15
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I went ahead and purchased the watch. It arrived today. Although it didn’t have any papers, the seller did include a Rolex Service Guarantee Card. Seems like the watch was real and original otherwise Rolex wouldn’t have serviced it.
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