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Old 6 July 2018, 10:46 PM   #1
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Jubilee bracelet - is it possible to determine authenticity

Hi all and thanks for looking at my post.

I've bought a Rolex Jubilee bracelet of ebay and I'm currently trying to determine the authenticity. I've talked to the local AD, they did however not offer authenticity service and did not know "vintage" very well. I've tried an auction house but they on the other hand did not have capacity to take on any authenticity services at the moment. Therefore i'm looking to see if it is possible to determine authenticity through pictures.

This is taken from a 1977 Rolex GMT Master, it is unceratin if it is original to the watch and since stamped "C" this should be -78?

To me the buckle and end links look like they are stamped "by hand" and not something i would expect but maybe beeing a 1977/78 production this is in order?

Also the end links are made for cases without lug holes which vere phased out eraly 2000 and thus end links have been replaced over the years?

I'm utterlygratefull for any help in this matter

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Old 7 July 2018, 02:23 AM   #2
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455 B is the code for end-links on a bicolour Jubilee 62523H...and these don't look good to me anyway.
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Old 7 July 2018, 03:12 AM   #3
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Endlinks are for sure aftermarket....
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Old 7 July 2018, 05:42 AM   #4
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IMO The Coronet on the clasp is Way Off.
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Old 7 July 2018, 06:00 AM   #5
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Jubilee bracelet - is it possible to determine authenticity

The clasp is for a folded link band not newer d link. Endlinks are fake and for a two tone band

Likely aftermarket links section fake endlinks not good


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Old 7 July 2018, 06:03 AM   #6
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IMO The Coronet on the clasp is Way Off.
As are the stamped marks on the folding clasp. Very amateurish and crude.
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Old 7 July 2018, 06:58 AM   #7
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The clasp is for a folded link band not newer d link. Endlinks are fake and for a two tone band

Likely aftermarket links section fake endlinks not good


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I've seen this clasp on an O-link band... I would agree that those D links are likely aftermarket...
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I've seen this clasp on an O-link band... I would agree that those D links are likely aftermarket...


If you saw a 6251h clasp on an oval link band that was a cobbled together band too


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Old 10 July 2018, 01:20 AM   #9
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Thank you all for valuable feedback. Is there anything further i could do to investigate? Eg. could something be told from the screws on this bracelet which are perfectly in line with the link in regards to tone, polish and alignemt of screw with link edge with the links - just to be sure.

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Old 10 July 2018, 05:09 AM   #10
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You are starting to sound like a troll.
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