Please HELP checking my new Rolex Submariner

[mechta]

Hey, I'm back. There might be some time difference between you guys and where I live. It's 11:45 am here now.
I took some more pictures under daylight.
I could see the etching on the bottom of the glass even though that was really hard to take picture, and also took picture of the box and guarantee card and the original invoice which was issued by the retailer in HK.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

The first character in the rehaut serial is a "G". Looks like 7 characters there, so if the watch is indeed genuine it would be a 2010 watch. And I emphasize the word "IF".

I think it may be 8 digit, but that only dates it to after 2010?

[mechta]

And some more..

[GLADIATOR]

Box is genuine too in my opinion

[mechta]

Uploaded. I guess it takes some time to go through the admin. Thank you.

[mechta]

There should be some time difference from where I located,
it's 13:25 here now. Anyway, I'm uploading few more pictures that I took under daylight.
I have a written commitment from the dealer if this is not a genuine one, they will refund double amount. But who knows...

[Bigblu10]

Box and card look genuine and serial numbers match. Thanks for posting.
Is the watch keeping good time?

[mechta]

So far yes.
I got this one on last Thursday, time was set in the evening, will check during the weekend. Thanks.

[thesharkfactor]

Enjoy your Rolex.

[watchnut100]

It’s clearly genuine I could tell that from first picture? So who ever says it’s fake have not got a clue enjoy your completely genuine watch.

[Humble michael]

It’s fine op , you got a deal ! Just enjoy it! :-))

[NitroRacer]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Let's put things into perspective. OP buys perhaps the most faked Rolex in the world. Spends several thousands of $$ Then comes here for authentication?
Would you do the same? I sure as hell wouldn't. I asked him for images of the warranty card. We will see if he comes back or is just trolling for a fake watch.

Looks like he came back.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by watchnut100

It’s clearly genuine I could tell that from first picture? So who ever says it’s fake have not got a clue enjoy your completely genuine watch.

You can tell authenticity from one image? Surely you can't be serious. The 116610 is the most faked reference and in fact there are 1:1 copies that are almost identical and don't show their weakness until you start unscrewing the crown, checking the "feel" of the clasp and it's flip lock and a few other tells. It certainly helped the OP provided images of warranty card, box, and receipt of watch with serial # matching documentation. As the saying goes better safe than sorry.

[snyde]

Here’s mine.


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[antrolexsub]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

You can tell authenticity from one image? Surely you can't be serious. The 116610 is the most faked reference and in fact there are 1:1 copies that are almost identical and don't show their weakness until you start unscrewing the crown, checking the "feel" of the clasp and it's flip lock and a few other tells. It certainly helped the OP provided images of warranty card, box, and receipt of watch with serial # matching documentation. As the saying goes better safe than sorry.

Nonsense. The very good fakes may convince those who are unfamiliar with that reference but they all have tells if you know what to look for. There is no ‘1:1’ fake of a 116610.

[Antoni Deighton]

As someone who is interested in learning, could you please tell me what you are looking for? Where do you start: serial number reasearch, bezel, rehaut, clasp, etc? And for those of us who don’t have a genuine example yet, can you post examples of the real thing to compare with?

[whatsthetime?]

I though I remember reading an article about Rolex having to spend +/-4hr to find the difference in one of their own faked watches, no?

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

I though I remember reading an article about Rolex having to spend +/-4hr to find the difference in one of their own faked watches, no?

Lol.
I don’t think so

[whatsthetime?]

Nothing to laugh at.
I will search for the article (possibly a video) and if I find it I'll post it

[cop414]

Originally Posted by Antoni Deighton

As someone who is interested in learning, could you please tell me what you are looking for? Where do you start: serial number reasearch, bezel, rehaut, clasp, etc? And for those of us who don’t have a genuine example yet, can you post examples of the real thing to compare with?

Those are things that we generally do not discuss here, no need to give the fake manufacturers a how to manual.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Nothing to laugh at.
I will search for the article (possibly a video) and if I find it I'll post it

trust me - ROLEX can tell the difference from a fake to one of their genuine.
Apart from the watch serial number, and apart from the movement unique serial number.
The quality of the fakes is a mile apart from genuine.
Counterfeiters only give the 'appearance' of a genuine piece, but the actually quality and finish of every part is different.
Its learning where to look
A

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by cop414

Those are things that we generally do not discuss here, no need to give the fake manufacturers a how to manual.

Just to clarify, its not so much the counterfeit factories, but the 'scammers' trying to see if we can see any issues.
If we say (for example) the LEC is very visible, they take a photo that hides that.
We are here doing our best to help people not get duped, not teach people how to get round it
Thanks

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by antrolexsub

Nonsense. The very good fakes may convince those who are unfamiliar with that reference but they all have tells if you know what to look for. There is no ‘1:1’ fake of a 116610.

what he says

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

If it is a scratch, it could be the lighting making it look white. I agree with you, the bezel looks good as far as it being real.

Worth looking at the new added photos.
That 'scratch' is gone, so i suspect dust (or something)
As we said bezel looked too good to be fake.

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

trust me - ROLEX can tell the difference from a fake to one of their genuine.
Apart from the watch serial number, and apart from the movement unique serial number.
The quality of the fakes is a mile apart from genuine.
Counterfeiters only give the 'appearance' of a genuine piece, but the actually quality and finish of every part is different.
Its learning where to look
A

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Just to clarify, its not so much the counterfeit factories, but the 'scammers' trying to see if we can see any issues.
If we say (for example) the LEC is very visible, they take a photo that hides that.
We are here doing our best to help people not get duped, not teach people how to get round it
Thanks

[77T]

OP
Welcome to the forum.
Enjoy your watch. I think your initial question has been answered as well as possible by looking at pictures.

But you should still have the movement checked by a Rolex trained and certified watchmaker to see if it needs a service.

It is about 10 years old and could need lubrication.


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[mechta]

All,
Thanks for your information. I think I'm going to visit the official service center to ask for overhaul. It might be the most accurate way to prove that it's gen., if they accept it. Anyway as 77T advised, it needs to be checked as it's already almost 10 years old.
Thanks guys.

[tigey]

As I said before, the watch is authentic but the clasp and possibly bracelet is fake.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by tigey

As I said before, the watch is authentic but the clasp and possibly bracelet is fake.

I dont think so.
Why you think they are fake?

[Aquaholic_user]

Has anyone questioned the rehaut?

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