The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex Reference Library

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 24 May 2015, 07:15 PM   #61
Gaijin
2018 RED-SD43 Pledge Member
 
Gaijin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Japan
Watch: ing your back.
Posts: 15,380
You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.
Gaijin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 May 2015, 07:56 PM   #62
bondtoys
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Germany
Watch: 16750
Posts: 1,780
Quote:
Originally Posted by padi56 View Post
.Giving the choice between a LV,or a Red Sub/ SD
If I understand you correctly, the Red Sub is pretty desirable to you.

Wheren't the Red Subs also produced over several years, so in larger numbers?

And the Red Sub is different to standard 1680 in which detail? 0,0001ml of red ink on the dial?

Keeping this in mind,in comparison the 16610LV is massively different to a standard 16610:
Green bezel insert, larger lume plots and a wider minute hand.

So imo the 16610LV has all what is needed to become a very desirable watch in the future - just like the red Subs/SD are now
bondtoys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 May 2015, 09:48 AM   #63
Gaijin
2018 RED-SD43 Pledge Member
 
Gaijin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Japan
Watch: ing your back.
Posts: 15,380
A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.
Gaijin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 May 2015, 03:43 AM   #64
George Spring
"TRF" Member
 
George Spring's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Real Name: George
Location: USA
Watch: submariner
Posts: 99
i find this post very interesting and please do excuse my ignorance as im totaly clouless about rolex in general. i got all my limited knowledge here on trf and im being suck in everytime i read. anyway, in terms of rarity of LV which year is the one to get? the 2003?
George Spring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 May 2015, 01:14 PM   #65
Gaijin
2018 RED-SD43 Pledge Member
 
Gaijin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Japan
Watch: ing your back.
Posts: 15,380
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Spring View Post
i find this post very interesting and please do excuse my ignorance as im totaly clouless about rolex in general. i got all my limited knowledge here on trf and im being suck in everytime i read. anyway, in terms of rarity of LV which year is the one to get? the 2003?
Don't know if it is any more rare, just more desirable as it was the true 50th Anniversary Submariner. The Y or early Fs.
Gaijin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 May 2015, 02:26 PM   #66
George Spring
"TRF" Member
 
George Spring's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Real Name: George
Location: USA
Watch: submariner
Posts: 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaijin View Post
Don't know if it is any more rare, just more desirable as it was the true 50th Anniversary Submariner. The Y or early Fs.
thank you gaijin! i was in nagoya otsu kanon last month with wife and i was very excited because of how strong the dollar to a yen this year, however the price aint much difference when it comes to buying luxury goods. i thought i can get the early F serial 16610lv to a better deal, not really.
George Spring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 May 2015, 09:40 PM   #67
Gaijin
2018 RED-SD43 Pledge Member
 
Gaijin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Japan
Watch: ing your back.
Posts: 15,380
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Spring View Post
thank you gaijin! i was in nagoya otsu kanon last month with wife and i was very excited because of how strong the dollar to a yen this year, however the price aint much difference when it comes to buying luxury goods. i thought i can get the early F serial 16610lv to a better deal, not really.
You are welcome George.

Yep. 123.5 Yen to the Dollar today.
Gaijin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 July 2015, 05:44 PM   #68
shou.biao.kuang
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Real Name: Sam
Location: Singapore
Watch: means shou biao
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaijin View Post
You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaijin View Post
A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.
I agree with Gaijin here his observation

He separated nicely between rarity, desirability and market demand and hence the price..
shou.biao.kuang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 July 2015, 07:44 PM   #69
shou.biao.kuang
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Real Name: Sam
Location: Singapore
Watch: means shou biao
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by bondtoys View Post


This time the modification was modest - by my standards

I only took a 116710LN dial, got rid of the green GMT MASTER II wording and made it in white and put it into a 16710.

No case modification, no added naughtiness
Subtle form of naughtiness??!!

Just curious, why a 116710LN dial on a 16710? The over-printing of the green GMT Master II word?
shou.biao.kuang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18 July 2015, 10:33 PM   #70
bondtoys
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Germany
Watch: 16750
Posts: 1,780
Only one reason:

Maxidial!!
Larger lume plots than the standard 16710 dial!
bondtoys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 01:39 PM   #71
Smartpup2001
"TRF" Member
 
Smartpup2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: Ad
Location: BKK
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 41
16610LV Flat4 question ??

Hi guys,

After saw these 2 pics posted on the website by the owner who claimed this is original sub 50th Y9 Serie flat4 bezel. But I wonder it isn't Mark I dial as it should. Is this possible for Rolex to put this dial on Y9 Serie?

Anyone please enlighten me.

Appreciated for your answers.


Smartpup2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 02:23 PM   #72
rollee1
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Real Name: Rollee
Location: Boston
Watch: it watching me
Posts: 1,900
This looks like a true Mark I dial to me. Its possible on Y serial, perhaps the transition months; Rolex don't confirm exact year of production.
__________________
Time you enjoy wasting was not wasted
rollee1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 02:29 PM   #73
shou.biao.kuang
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Real Name: Sam
Location: Singapore
Watch: means shou biao
Posts: 286
Neat! 😊
shou.biao.kuang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 09:02 PM   #74
shou.biao.kuang
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Real Name: Sam
Location: Singapore
Watch: means shou biao
Posts: 286
16610LV Flat4 question ??

Hi,
Yes, Y serials 16610LV with MKII dials have been spotted on a few pieces. I've personally held one before with the MK II dial.

Though it's in the desirable Y serial range, the MKII is seen as somewhat "less" desirable compared to the MKI dial.

Just my 2-cents view ;-)
shou.biao.kuang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 10:40 PM   #75
Smartpup2001
"TRF" Member
 
Smartpup2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: Ad
Location: BKK
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 41
16610LV Flat4 Y Serie ...question

Hi guys,

I saw some pics of 16610LV Y Serie posted by the owner who claimed this is all original from Rolex factory. But I wonder it isn't Mark I dial as it should. Is this possible for Rolex put non Mark I dial on Y9 Serie?

Anyone please enlighten me.

Appreciated for your answers.

Last edited by Smartpup2001; 4 August 2015 at 11:08 PM.. Reason: Delete photo
Smartpup2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 11:06 PM   #76
Smartpup2001
"TRF" Member
 
Smartpup2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Real Name: Ad
Location: BKK
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 41
tt

Last edited by Smartpup2001; 4 August 2015 at 11:09 PM.. Reason: Reiterating post
Smartpup2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 August 2015, 11:21 PM   #77
strafer_kid
"TRF" Member
 
strafer_kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Real Name: Kenny
Location: northern ireland
Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs
Posts: 3,516
I passed on the opportunity to pick up a 16610lv Sub on a number of occasions through the years, as the insert just did not do it for me. Increasingly though I am being drawn more towards one......some very nice ones showing on this thread!
strafer_kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 December 2015, 02:48 AM   #78
shou.biao.kuang
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Real Name: Sam
Location: Singapore
Watch: means shou biao
Posts: 286
It is possible to have a MK II dial on a Y-serial..

though this will greatly reduce the desirability of the Y-serial. I have personally seen one and on record 4 of them in all.

Hope this helps.

Sam
shou.biao.kuang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 December 2015, 03:09 AM   #79
DJL-73
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Real Name: Dave
Location: UK
Watch: Sub & GMT
Posts: 26
Interesting thread, I've owned my LV for 4 years now and until I read this I was unaware of all the different variations. After reading this and a little googling it would appear I have a MK VI dial (I think)
DJL-73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 March 2016, 04:10 AM   #80
yannis
2018 RED-SD43 Pledge Member
 
yannis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Real Name: Yannis
Location: Europe
Watch: maniac
Posts: 8,002
Hey all! Nice thread! Is this a MK VI dial guys?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_8156.jpg (81.1 KB, 187 views)
__________________
Dream Collection:


yannis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 March 2016, 11:49 AM   #81
stylinleems
2018 RED-SD43 Pledge Member
 
stylinleems's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,035



I forget what the differences in the dials are. I read it once however, cannot find the post but my LV V-series above.
__________________
16610LV | 116610LV | 116613LB | 116710BLNR | PAM320
stylinleems is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2017, 04:37 AM   #82
fleabag
"TRF" Member
 
fleabag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK,Cumbria
Watch: SubSertiGMT2Mil-GV
Posts: 806
Quote:
Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang View Post
I would agree with SubKing on this. The lime green Flat 4 are the rarest of all the 16610LV's inserts, followed by the "normal (dark) green" Flat 4 insert. Find either one of these, make sure you hold on tight to it!


Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
fleabag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 December 2017, 04:39 AM   #83
fleabag
"TRF" Member
 
fleabag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK,Cumbria
Watch: SubSertiGMT2Mil-GV
Posts: 806
Quote:
Originally Posted by fleabag View Post
Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
fleabag is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
16610lv , dial variance , green sub , mk vi , submariner


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


*Banner Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright 2004-2018, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.