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Goin2drt · 1 March 2017, 07:48 AM

2 minute search. All with 10,xxx ASKING PRICES. I am confident you could get them for less.

I have seen others at 10,200 asking and one sold a few weeks ago at 9,900 asking.

They can be had for $10 not $12. Now we know they were at Tourrneau those retails don't surprise me.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona

NJRomanista · 1 March 2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Goin2drt

2 minute search. All with 10,xxx ASKING PRICES. I am confident you could get them for less.

I have seen others at 10,200 asking and one sold a few weeks ago at 9,900 asking.

They can be had for $10 not $12. Now we know they were at Tourrneau those retails don't surprise me.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona

Being that it was my first time looking for a pre-owned I wanted to get it from a reputable and safe retailer.

NJRomanista · 1 March 2017, 07:50 AM

Thanks everyone for the feedback and great knowledge and info. It was greatly appreciated.

Daytonaman799 · 1 March 2017, 08:35 AM

I would prob go white even though I have a black one. I don't think the price is crazy if its mint. It seems like prices for the 116520 have risen in the last few months. Before the LN came out I think a good used one was in the 9-10k range but the supply seems to have dried up for now. The new range for a good one with no dings and complete is in the 11-12k range. If its not complete then I think you can get one for less but those also seem to ve very well worn. Good luck both dials are great. By the way...if OP is going to go for one of each I would go black 116520 and white 116500...just my .02.

Ruud Van Driver · 1 March 2017, 08:50 AM

I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on price.

I chose black because I found that there's not enough contrast between the white dial and silver sub-dials in bright sunlight. That was in 2014 and if i could turn the clock back, I'd buy the black again.

NJRomanista · 1 March 2017, 08:52 AM

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I would prob go white even though I have a black one. I don't think the price is crazy if its mint. It seems like prices for the 116520 have risen in the last few months. Before the LN came out I think a good used one was in the 9-10k range but the supply seems to have dried up for now. The new range for a good one with no dings and complete is in the 11-12k range. If its not complete then I think you can get one for less but those also seem to ve very well worn. Good luck both dials are great. By the way...if OP is going to go for one of each I would go black 116520 and white 116500...just my .02.

I agree. From my searching and given the situation the price is good. Mint with papers and box as well as from a reputable retailer. The also have a 1998 zenith model for the same price with white dial. I'll eventually get one but the current supply has driven the price up.

WAK4 · 1 March 2017, 09:09 AM

White for me in a 116520 in general.

Neither of the watches in the OP would be worth $12k to me, glad to see that deal is dead.

anothernewphone · 1 March 2017, 09:16 AM

White can't be beat, but those prices probably could be! A newer 116520 is probably 12K. 2002 is ooold, and probably closer to 10K, I'd imagine.

speedmaster73 · 1 March 2017, 10:10 AM

116520s a dime o dozen. all kinds.

they sell for 12K cdn tops...9500-10500 us is more acceptable

these are sellers trying to take advantage of the ceramic hype and sell to those who cant find a ceramic at msrp.

remember folks....the 116520 was NOT hard to get for a few years leading up to the ceramic release

once the ceramic hype dies down post basel with the new releases you will see more and more purchase ceramic at msrp

to pay ceramic msrp prices for pre-worn older model daytonas is just stupid

masyv6 · 1 March 2017, 10:17 AM

White dial is really great. Definitely the better of the two, to me.

MCO1 · 1 March 2017, 11:52 AM

I would go white.....I have been looking a lot lately and 12k seems high but prices have crept up to the 11k range as of late for many and white seem to be more rare. I really want an old one but I think the prudent thing would be to wait for the market to settle down. There are 15 years worth of them out there and orders for the ceramic seem to be filling in rather quickly. Once the ceramic can be had for MSRP and used Ceramics become available they should be a bit less and the old one used should come in below that. Just look at the BLNR and the fact Rolex doesn't have to wait for Zenith for movements anymore. Just my thoughts! I hope I am right.

arguetaoscar · 1 March 2017, 12:33 PM

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NJRomanista · 1 March 2017, 12:39 PM

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Very nice. I'm going to get one once the prices settle.

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Joearch · 1 March 2017, 01:56 PM

I did white....

Wcdhtwn · 1 March 2017, 02:03 PM

Black is much cooler looking IMO. Does dressy and sporty better. But really hard to read, for me at least. If you can read it clearly then Black. White is still a very cool watch... don't get me wrong.

$12K is too much for the 2002 Daytona though. How do you price the two the same with so many years between them? Unless the 2002 is a Zenith but don't remember if that's the right vintage for that movement.

NJRomanista · 2 March 2017, 02:22 PM

Here's an update. I passed on both. When I passed they offered me a white dial SS zenith model from 1998 for $12k but it had been polished. Passed as well and ended up purchasing a BLNR today at a local AD

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Bigsykedaddy · 2 March 2017, 02:36 PM

For the pre ceramic models I prefer the black because it contrasts nicely with the stainless bezel. For the same reason I prefer the white dial on the ceramic because it contrasts the black ceramic bezel nicely

NJRomanista · 2 March 2017, 02:38 PM

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For the pre ceramic models I prefer the black because it contrasts nicely with the stainless bezel. For the same reason I prefer the white dial on the ceramic because it contrasts the black ceramic bezel nicely

Same here. Like the black with the SS bezel and vice versa on the ceramic. One day...

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Rol604 · 5 March 2017, 11:14 AM

I'm not the only one who find the black SS daytona a bit hard to read. But I wouldn't go for white unless it's the ceramic.

Personally I find white ceramic > white non ceramic. and Black non ceramic > black ceramic.

Who looks at their watch to tell time anyways.

jw72 · 25 November 2020, 03:18 PM

Wow, what a difference 3 years makes. Daytona for 10-12k all day long.

1665fan · 25 November 2020, 06:36 PM

Cream 116520 for the Win!

VonSomething · 25 November 2020, 06:43 PM

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Wow, what a difference 3 years makes. Daytona for 10-12k all day long.

I know right. My first thought was that guy is definitely selling a fake, too good to be true. Then I noticed the postdate.. Wow, take me back 3 years will ya.

petay993 · 25 November 2020, 07:07 PM

The benefit of hindsight, hope the OP made the purchase.

I look forward to revisiting this thread in 2023

Art Collector · 27 November 2020, 05:35 AM

You can't go wrong with all four. There are just nuanced differences. The 116520 with the steel bezel is dressier than the ceramic bezel version. The white dial 116520 wears larger because the white dial blends in with the steel bezel, as steel is a "white" metal. The black dial 116520 wears smaller because of the contrast with the black dial against the steel "white" metal bezel. The ceramic bezeled are both sportier than the steel bezeled, with the white dial offering more contrast between the white dial and the black bezel and black subdial rings so therefore it is the sportiest and "loudest." The black dial ceramic bezeled would wear larger than the white dial ceramic bezeled because the black dial blends in with the black bezel.

envuks · 27 November 2020, 06:37 AM

For me the best are the white 116520 and the black 116500.

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MAINEZX10 · 28 November 2020, 08:48 AM

Everyone who said that was too much would love to get a 116520 for $12K today, LMFAO. My first Daytona I purchased, in 2006, I did pay a premium for it. Do not regret it today.

MAINEZX10 · 28 November 2020, 09:37 AM

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Here's an update. I passed on both. When I passed they offered me a white dial SS zenith model from 1998 for $12k but it had been polished. Passed as well and ended up purchasing a BLNR today at a local AD

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If I was you I would regretting those decisions today. Especially the 16520. I passed up on one years ago and still regret it today.

1 March 2017, 08:50 AM	#35
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,924	I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on price. I chose black because I found that there's not enough contrast between the white dial and silver sub-dials in bright sunlight. That was in 2014 and if i could turn the clock back, I'd buy the black again. __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

27 November 2020, 06:37 AM	#55
envuks 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,687	For me the best are the white 116520 and the black 116500. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

1 March 2017, 07:48 AM	#31
Goin2drt Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,307	2 minute search. All with 10,xxx ASKING PRICES. I am confident you could get them for less. I have seen others at 10,200 asking and one sold a few weeks ago at 9,900 asking. They can be had for $10 not $12. Now we know they were at Tourrneau those retails don't surprise me. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=Daytona

1 March 2017, 07:50 AM	#33
NJRomanista "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: New Jersey, USA Watch: Rolex GMT BLNR Posts: 32	Thanks everyone for the feedback and great knowledge and info. It was greatly appreciated.

1 March 2017, 08:35 AM	#34
Daytonaman799 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC/South Fl Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 3,507	I would prob go white even though I have a black one. I don't think the price is crazy if its mint. It seems like prices for the 116520 have risen in the last few months. Before the LN came out I think a good used one was in the 9-10k range but the supply seems to have dried up for now. The new range for a good one with no dings and complete is in the 11-12k range. If its not complete then I think you can get one for less but those also seem to ve very well worn. Good luck both dials are great. By the way...if OP is going to go for one of each I would go black 116520 and white 116500...just my .02.

1 March 2017, 09:09 AM	#37
WAK4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: NJ Watch: Always changing Posts: 4,170	White for me in a 116520 in general. Neither of the watches in the OP would be worth $12k to me, glad to see that deal is dead.

1 March 2017, 09:16 AM	#38
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	White can't be beat, but those prices probably could be! A newer 116520 is probably 12K. 2002 is ooold, and probably closer to 10K, I'd imagine.

1 March 2017, 10:10 AM	#39
speedmaster73 Banned Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 1,231	116520s a dime o dozen. all kinds. they sell for 12K cdn tops...9500-10500 us is more acceptable these are sellers trying to take advantage of the ceramic hype and sell to those who cant find a ceramic at msrp. remember folks....the 116520 was NOT hard to get for a few years leading up to the ceramic release once the ceramic hype dies down post basel with the new releases you will see more and more purchase ceramic at msrp to pay ceramic msrp prices for pre-worn older model daytonas is just stupid

1 March 2017, 10:17 AM	#40
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,747	White dial is really great. Definitely the better of the two, to me.

1 March 2017, 11:52 AM	#41
MCO1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Missouri USA Watch: Daytona C white Posts: 2,248	I would go white.....I have been looking a lot lately and 12k seems high but prices have crept up to the 11k range as of late for many and white seem to be more rare. I really want an old one but I think the prudent thing would be to wait for the market to settle down. There are 15 years worth of them out there and orders for the ceramic seem to be filling in rather quickly. Once the ceramic can be had for MSRP and used Ceramics become available they should be a bit less and the old one used should come in below that. Just look at the BLNR and the fact Rolex doesn't have to wait for Zenith for movements anymore. Just my thoughts! I hope I am right.

1 March 2017, 12:33 PM	#42
arguetaoscar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,335	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 March 2017, 01:56 PM	#44
Joearch 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: Los Angeles Watch: Daytona + GMT BLNR Posts: 4,486	I did white....

1 March 2017, 02:03 PM	#45
Wcdhtwn "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Houston Watch: SkyD, SD43, GMT2 Posts: 4,975	Black is much cooler looking IMO. Does dressy and sporty better. But really hard to read, for me at least. If you can read it clearly then Black. White is still a very cool watch... don't get me wrong. $12K is too much for the 2002 Daytona though. How do you price the two the same with so many years between them? Unless the 2002 is a Zenith but don't remember if that's the right vintage for that movement.

2 March 2017, 02:22 PM	#46
NJRomanista "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: New Jersey, USA Watch: Rolex GMT BLNR Posts: 32	Here's an update. I passed on both. When I passed they offered me a white dial SS zenith model from 1998 for $12k but it had been polished. Passed as well and ended up purchasing a BLNR today at a local AD Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 March 2017, 02:36 PM	#47
Bigsykedaddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Anthony Location: Florida Watch: LVc \| SubC Posts: 2,285	For the pre ceramic models I prefer the black because it contrasts nicely with the stainless bezel. For the same reason I prefer the white dial on the ceramic because it contrasts the black ceramic bezel nicely

5 March 2017, 11:14 AM	#49
Rol604 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Vancouver Watch: Rolex, Panerai Posts: 108	I'm not the only one who find the black SS daytona a bit hard to read. But I wouldn't go for white unless it's the ceramic. Personally I find white ceramic > white non ceramic. and Black non ceramic > black ceramic. Who looks at their watch to tell time anyways.

25 November 2020, 03:18 PM	#50
jw72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vegas Watch: Only Rolex Posts: 96	Wow, what a difference 3 years makes. Daytona for 10-12k all day long.

25 November 2020, 06:36 PM	#51
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,591	Cream 116520 for the Win!

25 November 2020, 07:07 PM	#53
petay993 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Pete Location: Cheshire, UK Watch: FXD MN21, BLRO Posts: 427	The benefit of hindsight, hope the OP made the purchase. I look forward to revisiting this thread in 2023

27 November 2020, 05:35 AM	#54
Art Collector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: U.S.A. Watch: 07 116520 Z Serial Posts: 81	You can't go wrong with all four. There are just nuanced differences. The 116520 with the steel bezel is dressier than the ceramic bezel version. The white dial 116520 wears larger because the white dial blends in with the steel bezel, as steel is a "white" metal. The black dial 116520 wears smaller because of the contrast with the black dial against the steel "white" metal bezel. The ceramic bezeled are both sportier than the steel bezeled, with the white dial offering more contrast between the white dial and the black bezel and black subdial rings so therefore it is the sportiest and "loudest." The black dial ceramic bezeled would wear larger than the white dial ceramic bezeled because the black dial blends in with the black bezel.

28 November 2020, 08:48 AM	#56
MAINEZX10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Posts: 895	Everyone who said that was too much would love to get a 116520 for $12K today, LMFAO. My first Daytona I purchased, in 2006, I did pay a premium for it. Do not regret it today.

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