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Old 27 September 2022, 08:36 PM   #1
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Case threading? 5513

What are those grooves/chips on the threads? I’ve tried to do some searching, but could not find an other example of them. Case is a 5513, from -70-71.
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Old 27 September 2022, 09:13 PM   #2
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Thats normal. There you can put in the movement holding screws (looking like mushrooms) and than turn the movement / dial into position. Sadly with this "turning" many dials got damaged at the outer rings.
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Old 27 September 2022, 10:18 PM   #3
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To remove a rolex movement You need to loosen the screw to the right of your upper screw. I would try to tuen it counter cclockwise to alighn it with the channel in the case. I am awful at taking watches apart but this is how rolex works. Watch videos on youtube from Wristwatch Revival. Hes great and explains well
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Old 27 September 2022, 10:25 PM   #4
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This is just something that I have not seen on other 5513’s I’ve searched.
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Old 28 September 2022, 11:44 AM   #5
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That’s strange, I’ve never seen those indentation before…
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Old 28 September 2022, 12:50 PM   #6
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I Don't have those indentations on any of my 5513s. To remove the movement, look for two slotted case screws opposite of each other on the outer rim of the movement. These screws are turned in -clockwise - to loosen them when removing the movement. Once they are turned in, the movement should move and turn until one of the case screw aligns with an opening by the crown. Remove the winding crown stem, turn the watch over and it will come out.

Run this by Tools. Maybe he has some insight into your concern.
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Old 28 September 2022, 02:31 PM   #7
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I'll check mine tonight but I don't recall seeing either. How old.

I know the modern submariners have a larger indentation on the opposite side of the crown.

Interesting to get to the bottom of this.
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Old 28 September 2022, 06:13 PM   #8
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The case is an 2.7 mil series. Here are some pictures of the engravings, does they look legit? I’ve searched some more, but could’nt find any other example.
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Old 28 September 2022, 07:52 PM   #9
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Old 28 September 2022, 09:53 PM   #11
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Thank you very much for gathering those! To me the engraving looks good, any other opinions?
Also, what do you think of the movement? I linked an photo album with a couple of movement pictutes etc.
Is there actually a clone 1520 that I should be worried about?
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Old 28 September 2022, 10:20 PM   #12
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Looks like a Tudor 7928 midcase from those movement screw notches.
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Old 28 September 2022, 10:25 PM   #13
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Engravings look good but suspiciously clean in relation to the rest of the case with its pitting i.e zero wear marks from end links rubbing or zero pitting.
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Old 28 September 2022, 10:26 PM   #14
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Old 28 September 2022, 11:02 PM   #15
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Engravings look good but suspiciously clean in relation to the rest of the case with its pitting i.e zero wear marks from end links rubbing or zero pitting.
Yup, looks clean. There is some pitting between the lugs, but not on the casepart. On the backside of the case, there is some bigger pitting as I’ve stated in previous post.
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Old 29 September 2022, 12:03 AM   #16
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The slots seem unusual for a 5513
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Old 29 September 2022, 02:13 AM   #17
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The slots seem unusual for a 5513
That is what I am thinking too. Could it be done afterwards?
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Old 29 September 2022, 02:16 AM   #18
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The pics are a bit strange but my idea is that the engravings are off
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Old 29 September 2022, 04:38 AM   #19
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Looks like a Tudor 7928 midcase from those movement screw notches.
So, maybe it is a re-engraved Tudor case?
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Old 29 September 2022, 04:53 AM   #20
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So, maybe it is a re-engraved Tudor case?
Interesting take, would this be a thing that has been done before? Isn’t 7928 a more ”rare” watch to come by, if assuming that the re-casing been done in the near past.
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Old 29 September 2022, 05:30 AM   #21
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I doubt if it was a Frankenstein watch they would harvest a complete 7928. I’m sure it would be a loose movement/dial needing a case.

I’m not experienced enough to tell but something looks off between the lugs compared to the rest of the watch does it not?
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Old 29 September 2022, 10:05 AM   #22
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sorry I forgot to check last night but will do it tonight.

Can you share more pics of the watch? i.e., dial, crown guards, case back, etc.

Think we need to look at this in totality.
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:05 PM   #23
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I have three 70’s 5513’s two 1680 ‘s and quite a few 1601’s etc all have the notches
As has been said they are for taking the movement out of the case
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Old 29 September 2022, 09:37 PM   #24
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checked my 5513 (1967) - no notches. 1680 from 1970/71 also no notches.

The one that has notches.....is the 1967 Tudor 7928.... same positions as in your picture but guess what... 1967 Tudor 7016 also has no notches. I don't know what to make of it all might need others to chime in on top of Nick to confirm also.
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Old 30 September 2022, 12:29 AM   #25
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I have three 70’s 5513’s two 1680 ‘s and quite a few 1601’s etc all have the notches
As has been said they are for taking the movement out of the case
Hey! Would you be able to send pictures of the 5513’s! Would appreciate that.
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Old 30 September 2022, 08:41 AM   #26
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I looked at all the examples on Jaceks site from the past. None with that feature.


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Notches on my Tudor 7928

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Old 30 September 2022, 12:50 PM   #28
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sorry I forgot to check last night but will do it tonight.

Can you share more pics of the watch? i.e., dial, crown guards, case back, etc.

Think we need to look at this in totality.
OP, why can't you share more photos of the watch in question

there is enough replies to raise a question and we are trying to help.
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Old 30 September 2022, 04:10 PM   #29
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OP, why can't you share more photos of the watch in question

there is enough replies to raise a question and we are trying to help.
I will upload some later. Is there a way to upload bigger size .jpg/.png files than 1250x1250? Seems to be hard to crop pictures taken with iphone to that size.
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