Counterfeit vintage band on ebay

[springer]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jubilee-SS-20mm-...QQcmdZViewItem

another counterfeit band on ebay!!!!

[Rolex74]

Originally Posted by springer

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jubilee-SS-20mm-...QQcmdZViewItem

another counterfeit band on ebay!!!!

How can you tell?

[2careless]

Well, to the seller's defense, he didn't present it as genuine in the first place.
The appearance of the rolex crown on the band, however, is enough to report the goods is violating the copyright of rolex. Reported.

[springer]

Mr 2careless,

What the hell is he representing the band as, if not a Rolex? What's wrong with you, you on the sauce or smoke or what's your defense???????? This guy has no defense and why are you making excuses for a criminal on ebay trying to rip some unsuspecting buyer off? It has the Rolex crown on the band, and has the complete Rolex clasp logo on the clasp, it's a counterfeit.

It's criminal to sell these items in the USA, maybe not where you're from, but it is here. There is nothing in the listing that reads reproduction, and even if it did, back to what I just said, it's illegal. Only Rolex can sell Rolex patented/trademarked copyrighted goods.

[2careless]

Originally Posted by springer

Mr 2careless,

What the hell is he representing the band as, if not a Rolex? What's wrong with you, you on the sauce or smoke or what's your defense???????? This guy has no defense and why are you making excuses for a criminal on ebay trying to rip some unsuspecting buyer off? It has the Rolex crown on the band, and has the complete Rolex clasp logo on the clasp, it's a counterfeit.

It's criminal to sell these items in the USA, maybe not where you're from, but it is here. There is nothing in the listing that reads reproduction, and even if it did, back to what I just said, it's illegal. Only Rolex can sell Rolex patented/trademarked copyrighted goods.

Sorry, I don't smoke, and I have read his descriptions carefully.
He has not made a single presentation that the band is genuine. He made suggestions that the band is suitable for an authentic rolex watch but he did not say it's genuine!

However, he did post the photos of the clasp showing the Rolex crown, and it is sufficient reason to report this because I believe he has violated the copyright of rolex.

Take a chill pill mate.

[springer]

2carelss, thanks for the laugh tonight, I needed it!!!!!

Guys like you are not unlike the seller, what's the harm in a little counterfeit anyway. Who's it hurting ...I never said it was real...right. Wrong. You obviously can't deal with the facts, let alone the truth from the previous post I made to you, so now you're going to attack the fact giver. Give me a break. Criminal minds think alike.

Counterfeit is kind of like being a little bit pregnant, either you are or aren't, or in this analogy - it's fake or it isn't. There is no gray area.

As far as my chill pill goes, I had mine today, right after I rolled off the couch reading your post. It's guys like you that keep these jerk-offs in business. Now that you know it's fake, buy it, you are obviusly a person of low expectations. I sir, know the difference, and know quality.

[springer]

Rolex74, very poor crown stamped in the top of the band clasp for starters. Price too!

[tudorman8276]

Originally Posted by springer

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jubilee-SS-20mm-...QQcmdZViewItem

another counterfeit band on ebay!!!!

JP.....I reported it also.

I read the listing and re-read to see if I was missing something. Albeit being a fake, he does not represent it as Rolex. I know that it is fake 100%....the crown, the stampings on the clasp etc. I do not know if eBay will act to remove it or not-it needs to be, but, again, he did not represent it as a Rolex and eBay may take that into consideration.

Got your email.

Stan.

[Terry Newton]

Hey everybody; and Good Morning. I just popped on for the first time since yesterday and read this post. I was under the impression that we all shared something in common; i.e., our love of the Rolex Watch Brand and watches in general. A little less dissing each other would be greatly appreciated. I agree that it is criminal to misrepresent or, attempt to sell a replica, fake, counterfeit, piece of poop trying to pass itself off as a Rolex in any way, shape, or form.

Long after we make each individual criminal go away and thwart them in their attempts to dupe the masses, we will be here. How we treat each other though leaves a lasting impression. I would hope that there is a little less hostility in the postings and some polite discourse will go along much further.

It is wrong for the person to attempt to sell a fake though I too feel less anger towards any person for at least not trying to misrepresent something. This seller does not confirm or deny the authenticity so it's definitely reportable. But I still think that's a far cry from someone like rolexcenter.net whose scam's cost people their hard earned money.

I will report this item as it is a fake.

I hope the disagreeable disagreements come to a halt. Like I said, we are here long after they are gone.

Terry Newton

[Gedanken]

Originally Posted by springer

2carelss, thanks for the laugh tonight, I needed it!!!!!

Guys like you are not unlike the seller, what's the harm in a little counterfeit anyway. Who's it hurting ...I never said it was real...right. Wrong. You obviously can't deal with the facts, let alone the truth from the previous post I made to you, so now you're going to attack the fact giver. Give me a break. Criminal minds think alike.

Counterfeit is kind of like being a little bit pregnant, either you are or aren't, or in this analogy - it's fake or it isn't. There is no gray area.

As far as my chill pill goes, I had mine today, right after I rolled off the couch reading your post. It's guys like you that keep these jerk-offs in business. Now that you know it's fake, buy it, you are obviusly a person of low expectations. I sir, know the difference, and know quality.

I'm not going to tell you to take a chill pill. I'm telling you to can the attitude right now or get the hell off my forum.

I'm only telling you nicely once.

[ricnas1]

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Hey everybody; and Good Morning. I just popped on for the first time since yesterday and read this post. I was under the impression that we all shared something in common; i.e., our love of the Rolex Watch Brand and watches in general. A little less dissing each other would be greatly appreciated. I agree that it is criminal to misrepresent or, attempt to sell a replica, fake, counterfeit, piece of poop trying to pass itself off as a Rolex in any way, shape, or form.

Long after we make each individual criminal go away and thwart them in their attempts to dupe the masses, we will be here. How we treat each other though leaves a lasting impression. I would hope that there is a little less hostility in the postings and some polite discourse will go along much further.

It is wrong for the person to attempt to sell a fake though I too feel less anger towards any person for at least not trying to misrepresent something. This seller does not confirm or deny the authenticity so it's definitely reportable. But I still think that's a far cry from someone like rolexcenter.net whose scam's cost people their hard earned money.

I will report this item as it is a fake.

I hope the disagreeable disagreements come to a halt. Like I said, we are here long after they are gone.

Terry Newton

well said terry...

[Earl]

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Hey everybody; and Good Morning. I just popped on for the first time since yesterday and read this post. I was under the impression that we all shared something in common; i.e., our love of the Rolex Watch Brand and watches in general. A little less dissing each other would be greatly appreciated. I agree that it is criminal to misrepresent or, attempt to sell a replica, fake, counterfeit, piece of poop trying to pass itself off as a Rolex in any way, shape, or form.

Long after we make each individual criminal go away and thwart them in their attempts to dupe the masses, we will be here. How we treat each other though leaves a lasting impression. I would hope that there is a little less hostility in the postings and some polite discourse will go along much further.

It is wrong for the person to attempt to sell a fake though I too feel less anger towards any person for at least not trying to misrepresent something. This seller does not confirm or deny the authenticity so it's definitely reportable. But I still think that's a far cry from someone like rolexcenter.net whose scam's cost people their hard earned money.

I will report this item as it is a fake.

I hope the disagreeable disagreements come to a halt. Like I said, we are here long after they are gone.

Terry Newton

very well said Terry, and yes we are all here because we want to be ;o)

[Gedanken]

All right folks, nothing to see here. I've had private discussions with springer and it's all good.