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Old 27 January 2016, 10:18 AM   #1
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Icon8 Another scumbag Canadian scammer beware!!

This is meant more for the canadian members, a month ago I answered an ad for a daytona 116520 white dial on kijiji, the sellers supposed name was Thomas Smolanza, supposed address: 250 Mary St. east Thunder Bay Ontario.
He sent me an empty box, which i can prove because the weight recorded by fedex of the box is the same as the empty box itself.
This was not a complete surprise to me email he uses is : sultantoms@gmail.com
supposed phone #. 8078779988
put a claim in to paypal and lost it, so out goes the myth that paypal always sides with the buyer.
i have since reported with our police dept. here in Woodstock, anyone with info contact constable Geertz badge # 1507 phone # 5195372323 incident # WP-16-00684 if you have any info or have been scammed by this guy or someone similar.
I have also made a full report on ic3.gov website.
And notified fedex of the scam
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Old 27 January 2016, 10:57 AM   #2
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I am very sorry to hear this! I hope you can follow up and get this case reconsidered..
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Old 27 January 2016, 11:13 AM   #3
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Sorry to hear this.

Any idea why PayPal sided with the seller? The weight recorded by FedEx seems like a strong evidence.

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Old 27 January 2016, 11:22 AM   #4
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Old 27 January 2016, 11:54 AM   #5
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Old 27 January 2016, 12:28 PM   #6
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Old 27 January 2016, 12:31 PM   #7
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Re-open the case with Paypal. Make sure you call in and speak with a supervisor. Do not open the case online. Also, file a chargeback with your credit card company, if a credit card was used.
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Old 27 January 2016, 01:11 PM   #8
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Another scumbag Canadian scammer beware!!

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re-open the case with paypal. Make sure you call in and speak with a supervisor. Do not open the case online. Also, file a chargeback with your credit card company, if a credit card was used.

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Old 27 January 2016, 01:48 PM   #9
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Sorry to hear and I hope it gets worked out in your favor.
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Old 27 January 2016, 04:19 PM   #10
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That's really terrible. Sorry to hear.
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Old 27 January 2016, 04:45 PM   #11
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Old 27 January 2016, 05:06 PM   #12
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Old 27 January 2016, 11:27 PM   #13
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Thanks guys I have notified my CC company and put a claim in through FEDEX also
I will try to re-open the case with paypal too
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Old 27 January 2016, 11:50 PM   #14
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I'm not typically sensitive to these things, but isn't this thread title a tad racist?
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Old 28 January 2016, 12:19 AM   #15
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I'm not typically sensitive to these things, but isn't this thread title a tad racist?
Not really racist since Canadian isn't a race, it's a nationality. That being said, it does kind of sound anti-Canadian. Maybe if he kept the "scumbag" but lost the Canadian it would be better.
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Old 28 January 2016, 01:12 AM   #16
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Not really racist since Canadian isn't a race, it's a nationality. That being said, it does kind of sound anti-Canadian. Maybe if he kept the "scumbag" but lost the Canadian it would be better.

The OP is from Canada. I would think that this disqualifies him as anti -Canadian.
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Old 28 January 2016, 01:17 AM   #17
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That sucks. Glad that you used a cc so that you had some recourse on that front. I am sure once PayPal is provided with the information about the weight and it gets to a supervisor they will see your side of the story.

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Old 28 January 2016, 01:35 AM   #18
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Another scumbag Canadian scammer beware!!

Sorry to hear - always thought of Kijiji as a Canadian Craigslist. It flopped here in US. eBay tried to challenge CL and failed - but the scammers seem to love it.

For same reason I would only do CL in person, bloggers have long said same for KJ.
http://www.yousuckatkijiji.com/2012/...about.html?m=1

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Old 28 January 2016, 01:38 AM   #19
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I'm not typically sensitive to these things, but isn't this thread title a tad racist?

I am from Canada and I don't find this offensive. A scumbag is a scumbag, this one happens to be from Canada and if people are warned about him hopefully this does not happen again to anyone else.
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Old 28 January 2016, 01:59 AM   #20
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Oh, it starts with a few jokes and some slurs. "Hey, Canuk!" Next thing you know you're saying they should have their own schools. (Seinfeld ref.)
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Old 28 January 2016, 02:03 AM   #21
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I'm not typically sensitive to these things, but isn't this thread title a tad racist?
I'm Canadian and get what he meant.

Sorry to hear Andy. That is just brutal.
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Old 28 January 2016, 02:14 AM   #22
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The OP is from Canada. I would think that this disqualifies him as anti -Canadian.
Well said!!
In any event this is a serious situation too
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Old 28 January 2016, 02:49 AM   #23
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Well said!!

In any event this is a serious situation too

I feel for your dude, I really do. I hate to hear these things. I hope it works out for you and I know that karma will take of this scumbag.
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Oh, it starts with a few jokes and some slurs. "Hey, Canuk!" Next thing you know you're saying they should have their own schools. (Seinfeld ref.)
Outstanding.
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Old 28 January 2016, 03:58 AM   #25
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Sorry to hear about your issue and thanks for letting us know. This should serve as a warning know who you are trusting your money with. I for one would rather pay an established AD to be on the safe side

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Old 28 January 2016, 04:51 AM   #27
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Sorry to hear - always thought of Kijiji as a Canadian Craigslist. It flopped here in US. eBay tried to challenge CL and failed - but the scammers seem to love it.

For same reason I would only do CL in person, bloggers have long said same for KJ.
http://www.yousuckatkijiji.com/2012/...about.html?m=1

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Huh? Craigslist is 25% owned by eBay.
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Old 28 January 2016, 05:32 AM   #28
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Sucks sorry to hear that. I would file an appeal with Paypal and provide them the police report and Fed Ex claim number.

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Old 28 January 2016, 07:29 AM   #29
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Huh? Craigslist is 25% owned by eBay.

Not anymore - and its tangled:
They Did own 25% - invested in 2004 and quickly learned how corrupt the CL Founder and its CEO acted.
Then in 2007, EBay launched Kijiji in US.
Then CL sued eBay claiming stolen info was used to build Kijiji.
Then EBay successfully sued CL in 2010 because CL thwarted eBay's desire to sell out.
Then eBay sold its CL stake in mid-2015.
And now eBay is scaling up Close 5 - another US competitor to CL but App-based.

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Old 28 January 2016, 07:51 AM   #30
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Not anymore - and its tangled:
They Did own 25% - invested in 2004 and quickly learned how corrupt the CL Founder and its CEO acted.
Then in 2007, EBay launched Kijiji in US.
Then CL sued eBay claiming stolen info was used to build Kijiji.
Then EBay successfully sued CL in 2010 because CL thwarted eBay's desire to sell out.
Then eBay sold its CL stake in mid-2015.
And now eBay is scaling up Close 5 - another US competitor to CL but App-based.

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