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Ekegelmann · 15 February 2016, 12:14 PM

I have a chance to buy this beautiful watch at a nice price. I however am new to buying Rolex watches and need expert help. Can anyone tell from these photos on whether it's real or fake? Can anyone tell me the time this was maybe made? Any info would be so grateful. If real what kind of value would it hold and what kind of money would you spend if you had a chance to get it?

Old Expat Beast · 15 February 2016, 12:16 PM

Total fake. Forget about it.

ltmgeller · 15 February 2016, 12:16 PM

I'm not an expert but that looks pretty shady.

silverbullet818 · 15 February 2016, 12:17 PM

Can't confirm if it's genuine or not but man is that ever beat up!!

Well used.

The caseback looks suspicious.

I'd trust Adam though and walk away!

UNLVino · 15 February 2016, 12:17 PM

priceless

Fjweld · 15 February 2016, 12:18 PM

Lots of new members coming here for verification of folexes, those super bowl ads paid off

Ekegelmann · 15 February 2016, 12:19 PM

Well that was quick! Thanks. Now what is the obvious give away?

Kingsking · 15 February 2016, 12:23 PM

Everything, nothing about it is close

chino0823 · 15 February 2016, 12:23 PM

Fake had one

Sublover2166 · 15 February 2016, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekegelmann

Well that was quick! Thanks. Now what is the obvious give away?

No need to discuss specifics. Just be assured that many things are wrong with it and it is obvious!

sleddog · 15 February 2016, 12:25 PM

A fine example of crap!

Ekegelmann · 15 February 2016, 12:27 PM

Thanks, I like how this place operates. Much appreciated

Ekegelmann · 15 February 2016, 12:29 PM

I just don't know who would want a fake of anything. I mainly collect good vintage American made tools and everything is about quality to me. People are strange.

Lightforce1911 · 15 February 2016, 01:16 PM

Biggest junk

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crowncollection · 15 February 2016, 01:28 PM

Love the hallmarks lol
So fake

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bayerische · 15 February 2016, 07:25 PM

Complete cow dung.

LVSubmariner · 15 February 2016, 07:44 PM

Everyone is looking for a deal. Stop screwing around and go buy new at a dealer

Nairn1980 · 15 February 2016, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbullet818

Can't confirm if it's genuine or not but man is that ever beat up!!

Well used.

The caseback looks suspicious.

I'd trust Adam though and walk away!

I CAN confirm that it's not genuine lol

JohnAcosta · 15 February 2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LVSubmariner

Everyone is looking for a deal. Stop screwing around and go buy new at a dealer

You can buy from the For Sale forums here too. A lot of great deals for BNIB/LNIB watches to be found here.

rozyd · 16 February 2016, 01:45 AM

So many things wrong with this one. Where to start...

GordonC · 16 February 2016, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sublover2166

No need to discuss specifics. Just be assured that many things are wrong with it and it is obvious!

Why not, though? I am relatively new to Rolex, have bought 3 at an AD so have no worries about those, but I can't tell at a glance why the example in this thread is obviously fake.

Is there a thread or three that illustrate what to look for and typical examples of fake tells? Or could people just post one or two specifics on these newbie threads to help others learn how to spot fakes more easily?

123Blueface · 16 February 2016, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GordonC

Why not, though? I am relatively new to Rolex, have bought 3 at an AD so have no worries about those, but I can't tell at a glance why the example in this thread is obviously fake.

Is there a thread or three that illustrate what to look for and typical examples of fake tells? Or could people just post one or two specifics on these newbie threads to help others learn how to spot fakes more easily?

Can be easily googled.
This particular one is a blatant farce.

Welshwatchman · 16 February 2016, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordonc

why not, though? I am relatively new to rolex, have bought 3 at an ad so have no worries about those, but i can't tell at a glance why the example in this thread is obviously fake.

Is there a thread or three that illustrate what to look for and typical examples of fake tells? Or could people just post one or two specifics on these newbie threads to help others learn how to spot fakes more easily?

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jvmartin · 16 February 2016, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonC

Why not, though? I am relatively new to Rolex, have bought 3 at an AD so have no worries about those, but I can't tell at a glance why the example in this thread is obviously fake.

Is there a thread or three that illustrate what to look for and typical examples of fake tells? Or could people just post one or two specifics on these newbie threads to help others learn how to spot fakes more easily?

If you own 3, I would not call that new... also, if you are actually new to Rolex most of the stuff that is mentioned will not make much sense to you anyway...

Mosbrook · 16 February 2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jvmartin

If you own 3, I would not call that new... also, if you are actually new to Rolex most of the stuff that is mentioned will not make much sense to you anyway...

That's pretty condescending.

goldfixer21 · 16 February 2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbrook

That's pretty condescending.

Seems par for the course quite often

GoingPlaces · 16 February 2016, 10:46 AM

Not even close. Many give-aways.

GordonC · 16 February 2016, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvmartin

If you own 3, I would not call that new... also, if you are actually new to Rolex most of the stuff that is mentioned will not make much sense to you anyway...

Yeah, that's REALLY condescending. I did say relatively new, and I'm interested in learning. You might want to consider the forum description is as follows:

It's highlighted, but let's point it out again - real/fake identification discussion; and authenticity issues and spotting.

So for the experts here, your idea of discussion and spotting is to just say "trust me, it's fake" and "it wouldn't make much sense to you anyway"???!!! Thanks for nothing, your contributions to this forum section are immensely helpful.

Why do you bother, anyway? Needing a dose of feeling smug today? You aren't actually helping anybody here learn anything that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Can be easily googled.

Wow, great contribution from 123Blueface as well. I actually paid to be a member of this site and share the enthusiasm for Rolex with Rolex owners, paid to support this site (unlike 123Blueface), to be told to go somewhere else to find out information that is supposed to be topical HERE??!! Nice job.

Since this section is definitively identified by the forum management as the place for discussion of real and fake Rolex identification and authenticity issues and spotting, then it would make sense to have a couple of sticky threads to post fakes spotters guides, even links to web articles on identifying Rolex fakes. Experts could actually post HOW they identify a fake as a fake, rather than just posting "obviously, duh". That rather seems to be the explicit purpose of this section, doesn't it?

locutus49 · 16 February 2016, 02:05 PM

The good news is that it is a genuine fake.

Old Expat Beast · 16 February 2016, 02:06 PM

Also from the rules for this section, for anyone who hasn't taken the time to go there yet:

15 February 2016, 12:17 PM	#5
UNLVino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Tim Location: Left Coast USA Watch: 15203 & 18038 Posts: 384	priceless __________________ Get your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!

15 February 2016, 12:25 PM	#11
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,903	A fine example of crap! __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

15 February 2016, 01:28 PM	#15
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Love the hallmarks lol So fake Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

15 February 2016, 07:25 PM	#16
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Complete cow dung. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

15 February 2016, 12:16 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,362	Total fake. Forget about it.

15 February 2016, 12:16 PM	#3
ltmgeller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 21,379	I'm not an expert but that looks pretty shady.

15 February 2016, 12:17 PM	#4
silverbullet818 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 839	Can't confirm if it's genuine or not but man is that ever beat up!! Well used. The caseback looks suspicious. I'd trust Adam though and walk away!

15 February 2016, 12:18 PM	#6
Fjweld "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Frank Location: Chicago Watch: 16570, 1601, Posts: 452	Lots of new members coming here for verification of folexes, those super bowl ads paid off

15 February 2016, 12:19 PM	#7
Ekegelmann "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 4	Well that was quick! Thanks. Now what is the obvious give away?

15 February 2016, 12:23 PM	#8
Kingsking "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 622	Everything, nothing about it is close

15 February 2016, 12:23 PM	#9
chino0823 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: ct Posts: 189	Fake had one

15 February 2016, 12:27 PM	#12
Ekegelmann "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 4	Thanks, I like how this place operates. Much appreciated

15 February 2016, 12:29 PM	#13
Ekegelmann "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 4	I just don't know who would want a fake of anything. I mainly collect good vintage American made tools and everything is about quality to me. People are strange.

15 February 2016, 01:16 PM	#14
Lightforce1911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: evanston Posts: 260	Biggest junk Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

15 February 2016, 07:44 PM	#17
LVSubmariner Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Submariner 114060 Posts: 411	Everyone is looking for a deal. Stop screwing around and go buy new at a dealer

16 February 2016, 01:45 AM	#20
rozyd "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Michigan Watch: SD,DD,Exp1,Daytona Posts: 550	So many things wrong with this one. Where to start...

16 February 2016, 10:46 AM	#27
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,341	Not even close. Many give-aways.

16 February 2016, 02:05 PM	#29
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	The good news is that it is a genuine fake.

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