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20 January 2021, 04:49 AM | #211 |
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Let’s get back on track with this fascinating thread.
I don’t think Portugal is a big secret anymore as it relates to a wonderful and affordable retirement destination.... |
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It seems interesting to me how many across the globe are so dismissive of the USSR in the war, but perhaps particularly the US. Without their involvement and sacrifice the war would have been a lot more difficult to win. I wont talk about Japan either but a good Google on why Japan surrendered is interesting reading. You can chest thump all you want mate, but the UK has shaped this world more than another country in the history of the world.
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Since I seem to be the one that unintentionally opened this can of worms, if you read my OP, I referred to the Dutch as “very nice and friendly” and I believe this every and anywhere I was in Holland. I have visited several times and found the people to be among the most friendly in the world. So, to be clear, my post was a positive of the Dutch, and was not implying in any way they have a lack of respect for Americans or anyone else; the incident I described was all fun and laughs. Since you are in Holland, stop by and visit Bas, tell him I said hello. |
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Yep, for several hundred years our older cousins with the funny accents (why can’t you guys speak regular English? ) basically shaped the world we live in now. A little known fact is how many Americans, prior to Pearl Harbor, supported Nazi Germany and wanted us to enter the war against the Russians. And your point about Japan surrendering was one of my thesis papers in college. It is arguable that Japan surrendered NOT because of the A bombs, but rather because Russia had declared war and attacked them, they realized it was all lost at that stage. OK, ENOUGH of the digression, let’s get this thread back to the interesting topic it was, living abroad for a retirement. Dave, is my room ready? |
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Strange comment and rather rude.
If not for France, the US as it is, would not exist either. Countries are interconnected. But this has nothing to do with this thread. And the comment that preceded yours, about speaking English. The US is a vast country. European countries in almost any direction within a few miles there are other countries that speak a different language, hence the need to speak more languages to basically exist. The US is not like that. As anyone knows, to speak languages one really needs to do it on a rather constant basis. I learned French in school in Canada, but the French part of the country was 1700 miles away, so I soon forgot most of it.
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This is not to be dismissive of others, but it seems like your post is, and underscores my argument that it appears that some from the UK are often dismissive of the great and many accomplishments of the USA. To more directly challenge your new argument. The Egyptians, Greeks and Romans I’d posit more directly shaped the last two millennium. The part about being magnanimous was not something I said, and you admit being on your last legs which actually supports my argument. Also just so you know my grandfather went to Japan. Not everyone surrendered. More than they expected but he told me he had to secure an air field from riflemen in mountains. He as highest ranking 10th mountain division officer was tasked with. |
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Your second paragraph does not refute my argument in any way. Congratulations to your grandfather, as a former soldier I respect all former military men, I truly mean that, but you did miss my point on the surrender of Japan, perhaps you don't know the other theory/facts or choose to ignore them. It looks like we are both proud of our respective countries and rightly so. You wont change my mind and I suspect I wont change yours. I am very pro America you are obviously anti Brit. Fair enough mate, let's just call it a day. I'm out.
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You said Japan surrendered, which was a non-sequitur argument. I pointed out that not everyone surrendered. I don't know your other point because you didn't cite anything or explain it in a way that I could refute, but honestly it has nothing to do with the current argument. Suggesting that Japan was just going to surrender and we didn't need to drop bombs, send landing forces, nor fight some hold outs I think would be a difficult argument. I don't think you laid out a defensible one. I hope that logic can sway reasonable men. |
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I think we should perhaps delete our posts and carry this debate on by PM, we may ruin a perfectly good thread.
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