How long does a new Rolex stay within the -2/+2 accuracy?

[UnicoJG]

I know that the new Rolex standard is -2/+2 accuracy right out of the factory. But how long is a modern Rolex supposed to maintain this accuracy?

Is it part of the 5 year Rolex warranty?

Does anyone know?

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by UnicoJG

I know that the new Rolex standard is -2/+2 accuracy right out of the factory. But how long is a modern Rolex supposed to maintain this accuracy?

Is it part of the 5 year Rolex warranty?

Does anyone know?

My Sub is 6 years within that standard.

[rebel_1]

My guess is it depends on when you stop timing it! Honestly, this never really concerns me anymore, although I use to obsess over it as well.

In my observations, the more I wear some watches, the longer they are accurate; the more time I just wind it and keep in the safe, or on a winder, the more time one gains or loses.

I hope someone uploads the self regulating picture because how you store the watch can help with your time keeping accuracy.

[modabyboutique]

One of mines from 2013 and has been dead on for the last 10 times I've timed it. Never serviced. Another sub I have from 2000 is + 2.8 average never serviced

[wolffram]

My SubC is exactly 3 years old now, and has maintained +1.4 since day one. I don’t expect anything to change anytime soon...

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by rebel_1

My guess is it depends on when you stop timing it! Honestly, this never really concerns me anymore, although I use to obsess over it as well.

In my observations, the more I wear some watches, the longer they are accurate; the more time I just wind it and keep in the safe, or on a winder, the more time one gains or loses.

I hope someone uploads the self regulating picture because how you store the watch can help with your time keeping accuracy.

Hi :)

Is this the pic you are talking about?

Stole it from a thread yesterday hehe

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[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Hi :)

Is this the pic you are talking about?

Stole it from a thread yesterday hehe

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For modern movements, this really doesn't apply anymore. This paper is a relic from the past.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

For modern movements, this really doesn't apply anymore. This paper is a relic from the past.

Awe man!

Haha thanks for letting me know.

[meganfox17]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Is this the pic you are talking about?
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Holy Guacamole! Isn't that watch instructions from the time when 5 Star General Dwight D "Ike" Eisenhower was President of the United States of America?

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by meganfox17

Holy Guacamole! Isn't that watch instructions from the time when 5 Star General Dwight D "Ike" Eisenhower was President of the United States of America?

Idk haha

I saw it in a post yesterday, and stole it :0

Let me try to remove the post.

P.S. not a guacamole fan. I prefer pico de gallo

[Floorguy]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Hi :)

Is this the pic you are talking about?

Stole it from a thread yesterday hehe

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Been doing this for years!!

[Floorguy]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Hi :)

Is this the pic you are talking about?

Stole it from a thread yesterday hehe

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Been doing this for years!

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Hi :)

Is this the pic you are talking about?

Stole it from a thread yesterday hehe

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Okay guys and gals, I posted this because I saw it on a thread yesterday.

Some members have replied saying this no longer applies.

I tried deleting the pic or the post, but don’t know how because I posted it using Tapatalk and it doesn’t seem to give me the option to edit.

I tried going online to edit, but it doesn’t give me the option either as it does when I post online originalily.

I apologize !

[blnrrolex]

Great stuff

[DavidUK]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

For modern movements, this really doesn't apply anymore. This paper is a relic from the past.

I have a 2017 DJ41 with 3235 movement. It's interesting to see this paper as I'd noticed that my watch was 3-4 seconds fast after 3 months and so instead of resting it on its side, crown down, at night I changed to crown up and it lost those extra seconds after a few weeks. So I can vouch for the "crown up loses more seconds" advice on the paper.

Today, it's spot on to the second after five and a bit months, but only thanks to this advice which I spotted elsewhere previously.

[kauffee]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Okay guys and gals, I posted this because I saw it on a thread yesterday.

Some members have replied saying this no longer applies.

I tried deleting the pic or the post, but don’t know how because I posted it using Tapatalk and it doesn’t seem to give me the option to edit.

I tried going online to edit, but it doesn’t give me the option either as it does when I post online originalily.

I apologize !

Some people say it doesn't apply, but for my 116610 it applies perfectly. Then again, the 3135 movement is now 30 years old.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

For modern movements, this really doesn't apply anymore. This paper is a relic from the past.

Gravity is still the main enemy of any mechanical movement no matter the make or calibre. When resting off wrist flat dial up or dial down the balance staff runs on the ends of it's pivots very little or no added friction. Thus the balance wheel has a very slightly higher amplitude so will make movement run very very slightly faster. When watch is off wrist vertical crown up or down the balance staff pivots runs on the sides of the balance pivot causing a tiny more added friction this slows the amplitude so will run very slightly slower. In wearing through the day these different wearing positions hopefully balance out if watch is regulated correctly, but this dont always apply no matter the brand or movement.A well regulated watch will have an amplitude of between 270 to 300 in different positions on full manual winding at peak mainspring power.And on one of these winding machines where the watch is normally in the same position 24/7 this too could vary timing when compared to a watch on the wrist.And no matter whatever calibre is in any Rolex watch it will need some sort of regulation and service in its mechanical life.

[amh]

Originally Posted by padi56

Gravity is still the main enemy of any mechanical movement no matter the make or calibre. When resting off wrist flat dial up or dial down the balance staff runs on the ends of it's pivots very little or no added friction. Thus the balance wheel has a very slightly higher amplitude so will make movement run very very slightly faster. When watch is off wrist vertical crown up or down the balance staff pivots runs on the sides of the balance pivot causing a tiny more added friction this slows the amplitude so will run very slightly slower. In wearing through the day these different wearing positions hopefully balance out if watch is regulated correctly, but this dont always apply no matter the brand or movement.A well regulated watch will have an amplitude of between 270 to 300 in different positions on full manual winding at peak mainspring power.And on one of these winding machines where the watch is normally in the same position 24/7 this too could vary timing when compared to a watch on the wrist.And no matter whatever calibre is in any Rolex watch it will need some sort of regulation and service in its mechanical life.

Thank you.

I always keep my watch "crown up", resting on the side, for these reasons. And it's running +1/day, which is perfect for me

[broken_link]

Here’s how it works for me so far with the 116719 GMT II. The red curve is the average daily rate. It seems like longer periods of motorcycle riding 600+ km per day are upsetting the rate. You can clearly see two rate changes when I rode into vacations.

I went to an AD and they say leave it like it is because regulating the watch running -3s would be an unnecessary intervention.

[bradyb]

If you're into accuracy, these principles still apply - even for modern movements. You can do some simple testing to figure out which position works for your watch to gain or lose seconds while you're not wearing it at night.

I bought a Sub not long ago that was gaining 8-10 seconds a day so I figured out (with the help of a timegrapher) by placing it face-up overnight, the watch equalized that gain and all was good.

[schoolboy]

Nice to know that these "tricks" still work for some of the members

[JBoone]

My 3235 DJ41 gains slightly when off wrist face up as opposed to losing a bit on the wrist. Seems to be some truth in that old document in my case.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by JBoone

My 3235 DJ41 gains slightly when off wrist face up as opposed to losing a bit on the wrist. Seems to be some truth in that old document in my case.

The simple answer gravity affects all mechanical watches all brands,and no purely mechanical watch today no matter the brand will be 100% everyday perfect accurate.While on the wrist metal expansion and contraction, temperature variations, subtle changes in lubrication and friction, shocks, and so on all effect accuracy.But for any mechanical watch to run within in a few seconds either way, out of 86400 in a day truly is a mechanical marvel.

[HogwldFLTR]

It's my understanding that the watch will only be in +/- 2 secs while being observed. Other times it is out joy riding, carrying on, and partying. It always gets its act together when someone decides to look at it. They're very sneaky. If you want it to stay with in +/- 2 seconds it needs to be carefully watched, so to speak.

[RRGHOST1]

It doesn't bother me this +2/-2secs a day to be honest.Even if it was +60/-60secs I would just alter the hands to suit. People get paranoid about it being in tolerance.

[run23]

Overnight positioning seems to effect my 17 year old Sub, although I haven’t exactly rigorously tested to some sort of scientific standard. My watch gains a little time during the day, and then loses a little time when rested on its side crown up where I can get on average pretty close to perfect time, with some variation throughout the day.