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watchbureau · 26 July 2009, 02:05 AM

Hello All

,

Like many of you are doing or have done at one time, I've been shopping for my first Rolex.... I thought long and hard (in watch collector time that's about the power reserve of the average watch) and decided it had to be the submariner. I've been a long-time fan of diving watches and appreciate the history as well as the Bond connection. The reason for the post is to share the experience (an my opinions) to potentially help others in this situation.

I started with the white explorer II. I wanted something different than the black and blue faced watches I currently own. Why did I deviate from it? I spoke with a number of individuals who've owned this watch and found many sold due to the fact that, while, the white was quite attractive, the wrist time didn't happen as expected. So I went for the black-faced explorer II (tried the explorer 1, but wanted something a bit larger).

I then spent a considerable amount of time at 2 AD/ODs with the explorer II (also looked at the GMT IIc, GMT-Master II and submariners).... What happened? I just did not like the crown on the explorer and the GMT-Master. I found too much play in the crown, the crown to be small, and the screw-down engagement not to my liking...

. (my opinion, obvously). I excluded the GMT IIc due to budgetary reasons and I did not want another bulky/heavy watch at this time. I kept picking up the subs....

I chose the submariner.

Why did I choose the submariner (sub no date) over the submariner date? Well, frankly, I don't like fussing with date setting. I like to have it but don't need that function. Also, while the cyclops is iconic and identifiable, the nodate sub just looked cleaner. What sealed the deal is that it also was less expensive and had better "balance" on the wrist. I've been a long-time fan of substantial bracelets, such as Omega's, but what appealed to me is the no nonsense action of the venerable sub clasp, the lighter weight, and the even lighter weight of the hollow end links on the sub nodate. I just really appreciate the substantial look of the watch while feeling so comfortable. I had previously thought this to be a weakness of this watch, but now find it be its strength.

What sealed the deal was the holes case. I just had to have that.

Lastly, why did I choose the COSC over the non-COSC? Well, I wanted the certification, but mostly, it was because I wanted the engraved chapter (rehaut) ring. I liked the Z series Sub nodate non-COSC dial but had to have the engraving. I also wanted the newer watch.

So that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it. Hope this spurs some thoughts for others who might be thinking of their first purchase. What's next? Datejust or Turnograph, then the GMT IIc or new Maxi-case sub!

BTW, I purchased on TRF (see who's who) ! woohoo!

Steve

watchbureau · 26 July 2009, 03:32 AM

CKLinLA · 26 July 2009, 03:40 AM

Big CONGRATS!

Great photos, though ... I was wondering when, .. .. or if

,
I would see the watch!

The rollie boxes are nice.

Its a great watch and has the classic look of the vintage Sub.
I bought a 14060 myself a month ago.

m5blitzer · 26 July 2009, 03:49 AM

Very nice and CONGRATS!!! Great striptease sequence of the grand opening.

Robertf · 26 July 2009, 05:29 AM

Nice!

sleddog · 26 July 2009, 05:54 AM

A superb choice!!

I love mine as well(although non cosc).
+ I also enjoyed the striptease at the start!! It got me hot and bothered(Or maybe its because the AC quit!).

Enjoy it and wear it with Pride! I do!
Rob.....

karmatp · 26 July 2009, 06:28 AM

Fantastic choice.

Now you have me missing the one I let go some time ago.

kcmo · 26 July 2009, 07:05 AM

Congrats on that classic! Enjoy it!

gettocard · 26 July 2009, 08:32 AM

talking about some kick ass pics here !!

Mine is due next week....can't wait !!!

Big congrats anyway !!

watchbureau · 26 July 2009, 09:43 AM

Thanks, everyone, for the nice response. Hopefully the info and pics will help someone figure out whether this watch is for them, too!

Hey: m5blitzer: slow down! you're going to get a ticket! ;-)

poppyoua12 · 26 July 2009, 01:48 PM

Great photos I also have a No Date Sub Its an M serial I bought it about 6 months ago and love it.Next rolex I buy will be a all gold sub I think.

migboy · 26 July 2009, 02:13 PM

very nice choice!!! i was in the same boat.... ended up choosing the sub date over the white exp2

DAVIDSW · 26 July 2009, 02:55 PM

Enjoy my friend.... looks GREAT!!!!!

Best
DavidSW

Asad · 26 July 2009, 04:35 PM

Beautiful!

Andad · 26 July 2009, 06:59 PM

Nice Rolex & excellent pix.

Well done to both.

zidaneong · 26 July 2009, 08:40 PM

enjoy your new watch. :)

Sunny Arizona · 26 July 2009, 11:36 PM

I wore a Non-date Sub for a few years until I sold it on one of the forums last year.
Recently bought the V Serial Non-Date with COSC and Laser Etched Chapter Ring. Very nice and true to the original Submariner design.
Initially, I thought that the Z with Non-COSC had a cleaner look but the AD gave me a great deal on the V COSC so like you, the newer serial and added bonus of the COSC and chapter ring made the deal for me.
Enjoy

rolexsubdate · 27 July 2009, 12:37 AM

How come you got 2 plastic tags on your watch????

Also, in the plastic, I see holes where the lug pins are ... looks like some
one might have removed the bracelet ....

Congrats!! Great watch!!!

CKLinLA · 27 July 2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Arizona

..........
Initially, I thought that the Z with Non-COSC had a cleaner look
but the AD gave me a great deal on the V COSC so like you, the
newer serial and added bonus of the COSC and chapter ring made
the deal for me.
Enjoy

Thats a tough call, No COSC vs COSC plus Chapter Ring. Like you,
I wanted the clean/simple no COSC look, but also love the engraving
on the chapter ring of the newer Rolex.
Ideal would be to have both!
I ended up with a no COSC.

Bon Temps · 27 July 2009, 01:46 AM

Beautiful piece. Love the way you "revealed" it.

DAVIDSW · 27 July 2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

How come you got 2 plastic tags on your watch????

If the watch comes from a US AD recently it comes with 3 Tags. Some AD's keep the tags and some send it with the watch. Totally up to the AD as they are used for inventory control in some cases.

Best

watchbureau · 28 July 2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

How come you got 2 plastic tags on your watch????

Also, in the plastic, I see holes where the lug pins are ... looks like some
one might have removed the bracelet ....

Congrats!! Great watch!!!

Thanks for the nice congrats! The holes in the plastic at the holes are normal instead of abnormal. I attribute this to the attention to detail.... Perhaps there are holes in those no-holes cases???? have not purchased nor looked to know.... One plastic tag is for the water resistance as I understand is on other models such as DateJust and the Oyster Swimpruf is on the subs and other that have the additional 300m+ resistance.... Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

R1@160@alltimes · 28 July 2009, 10:42 AM

I really enjoyed reading this thread and all the fantastic pics. I should have my 16610M later this week

DSJ · 29 July 2009, 12:44 AM

Nice watch!

SubmarinerMan · 29 July 2009, 02:06 AM

Congrats = ) Enjoy your Sub! Great pics!

Lol-x · 29 July 2009, 11:34 PM

Cool review and photos

Great watch that is for sure, close to perfection

After scrolling down 20 photos of the box I was relieved to see a watch

Congrats

ocwatching · 30 July 2009, 02:44 AM

Congrats on an icon in sport watches...love mine...
nice write up and photos!

YuppieKid · 30 July 2009, 12:49 PM

edhughes1 · 31 July 2009, 08:24 AM

Nice photos, its brother says hello!

Ed

CyberPaol · 17 August 2009, 09:28 PM

I did exactly the same, last week! Now I'm wearing my amazing 14060M V series with rrr!

I own a 14060M no C.O.S.C. F series, too. But I prefer the C.O.S.C. one...

26 July 2009, 02:05 AM	#1
watchbureau "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: MICHIGAN STATE Watch: 1675 Posts: 488	14060M M Series Purchase Story Hello All , Like many of you are doing or have done at one time, I've been shopping for my first Rolex.... I thought long and hard (in watch collector time that's about the power reserve of the average watch) and decided it had to be the submariner. I've been a long-time fan of diving watches and appreciate the history as well as the Bond connection. The reason for the post is to share the experience (an my opinions) to potentially help others in this situation. I started with the white explorer II. I wanted something different than the black and blue faced watches I currently own. Why did I deviate from it? I spoke with a number of individuals who've owned this watch and found many sold due to the fact that, while, the white was quite attractive, the wrist time didn't happen as expected. So I went for the black-faced explorer II (tried the explorer 1, but wanted something a bit larger). I then spent a considerable amount of time at 2 AD/ODs with the explorer II (also looked at the GMT IIc, GMT-Master II and submariners).... What happened? I just did not like the crown on the explorer and the GMT-Master. I found too much play in the crown, the crown to be small, and the screw-down engagement not to my liking.... (my opinion, obvously). I excluded the GMT IIc due to budgetary reasons and I did not want another bulky/heavy watch at this time. I kept picking up the subs.... I chose the submariner. Why did I choose the submariner (sub no date) over the submariner date? Well, frankly, I don't like fussing with date setting. I like to have it but don't need that function. Also, while the cyclops is iconic and identifiable, the nodate sub just looked cleaner. What sealed the deal is that it also was less expensive and had better "balance" on the wrist. I've been a long-time fan of substantial bracelets, such as Omega's, but what appealed to me is the no nonsense action of the venerable sub clasp, the lighter weight, and the even lighter weight of the hollow end links on the sub nodate. I just really appreciate the substantial look of the watch while feeling so comfortable. I had previously thought this to be a weakness of this watch, but now find it be its strength. What sealed the deal was the holes case. I just had to have that. Lastly, why did I choose the COSC over the non-COSC? Well, I wanted the certification, but mostly, it was because I wanted the engraved chapter (rehaut) ring. I liked the Z series Sub nodate non-COSC dial but had to have the engraving. I also wanted the newer watch. So that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it. Hope this spurs some thoughts for others who might be thinking of their first purchase. What's next? Datejust or Turnograph, then the GMT IIc or new Maxi-case sub! BTW, I purchased on TRF (see who's who) ! woohoo! Steve Last edited by watchbureau; 26 July 2009 at 03:39 AM.. Reason: COSC

26 July 2009, 03:32 AM	#2
watchbureau "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: MICHIGAN STATE Watch: 1675 Posts: 488	added Pics Last edited by watchbureau; 26 July 2009 at 03:34 AM.. Reason: morepics

26 July 2009, 03:40 AM	#3
CKLinLA "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: KL Location: ... Los Angeles Watch: Explorer II Black Posts: 1,434	Big CONGRATS! Great photos, though ... I was wondering when, .. .. or if , I would see the watch! The rollie boxes are nice. Its a great watch and has the classic look of the vintage Sub. I bought a 14060 myself a month ago. __________________ Explorer II 1655; Day Date 1803; Submariner 14060; Deepsea Sea-Dweller 116660; 5-Digit Datejusts; Perpetual Date 1500 and 15000; Pelagos FXD M25707B; Omega Dynamic 'Targa Florio' 5291.51.07; 'Good Planet' GMT 232.30.44.22.03.001; Planet Ocean 215.30.40.20.03.002; Zenith Chronomaster Original 03.3200.3600/22.M3200.

26 July 2009, 05:54 AM	#6
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,903	A superb choice!! I love mine as well(although non cosc). + I also enjoyed the striptease at the start!! It got me hot and bothered(Or maybe its because the AC quit!). Enjoy it and wear it with Pride! I do! Rob..... __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

26 July 2009, 06:28 AM	#7
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	Fantastic choice. Now you have me missing the one I let go some time ago. __________________ My grails:

26 July 2009, 03:49 AM	#4
m5blitzer Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Midwest, USA Watch: Enough is enough!! Posts: 597	Very nice and CONGRATS!!! Great striptease sequence of the grand opening.

26 July 2009, 05:29 AM	#5
Robertf Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Surrey England Watch: ND Submariner Posts: 96	Nice!

26 July 2009, 07:05 AM	#8
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Congrats on that classic! Enjoy it!

26 July 2009, 08:32 AM	#9
gettocard Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: EU Watch: them come and go.. Posts: 2,052	talking about some kick ass pics here !! Mine is due next week....can't wait !!! Big congrats anyway !!

26 July 2009, 09:43 AM	#10
watchbureau "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: MICHIGAN STATE Watch: 1675 Posts: 488	Thanks, everyone, for the nice response. Hopefully the info and pics will help someone figure out whether this watch is for them, too! Hey: m5blitzer: slow down! you're going to get a ticket! ;-)

26 July 2009, 01:48 PM	#11
poppyoua12 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Justen Location: detroit Watch: 116610 Submariner Posts: 175	Great photos I also have a No Date Sub Its an M serial I bought it about 6 months ago and love it.Next rolex I buy will be a all gold sub I think.

26 July 2009, 02:13 PM	#12
migboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Watch: 16610 Posts: 300	very nice choice!!! i was in the same boat.... ended up choosing the sub date over the white exp2

26 July 2009, 02:55 PM	#13
DAVIDSW ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 DATEJUST41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: David Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: 1655 EXP Posts: 36,114	Enjoy my friend.... looks GREAT!!!!! Best DavidSW

26 July 2009, 04:35 PM	#14
Asad "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stillwater, OK Posts: 96	Beautiful! __________________ Have: Omega Speedmaster Had:Too Many to List; Panerai's, IWC's Omega's, Tag Heuer's and Breitling's.

26 July 2009, 06:59 PM	#15
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,807	Nice Rolex & excellent pix. Well done to both. __________________ E

26 July 2009, 08:40 PM	#16
zidaneong "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex YG Datejust Posts: 274	enjoy your new watch. :) __________________ [1] Rolex TT Blue Dial Submariner 16613 (M serial) [2] Rolex YG Datejust 16018 (8 mil Serial) [3] Rolex YG Datejust 16238 (L Serial) [4] Rolex YG Gold Crystal Daytona 116518 [5] Patek Philippe SS Aquanaut 5065

26 July 2009, 11:36 PM	#17
Sunny Arizona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Brad Location: Colorado Watch: 16613 Posts: 1,255	COSC Non-Date I wore a Non-date Sub for a few years until I sold it on one of the forums last year. Recently bought the V Serial Non-Date with COSC and Laser Etched Chapter Ring. Very nice and true to the original Submariner design. Initially, I thought that the Z with Non-COSC had a cleaner look but the AD gave me a great deal on the V COSC so like you, the newer serial and added bonus of the COSC and chapter ring made the deal for me. Enjoy

27 July 2009, 12:37 AM	#18
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	How come you got 2 plastic tags on your watch???? Also, in the plastic, I see holes where the lug pins are ... looks like some one might have removed the bracelet .... Congrats!! Great watch!!!

27 July 2009, 01:46 AM	#20
Bon Temps "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: LA Watch: SD43 Posts: 360	Beautiful piece. Love the way you "revealed" it.

28 July 2009, 10:42 AM	#23
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I really enjoyed reading this thread and all the fantastic pics. I should have my 16610M later this week __________________

29 July 2009, 12:44 AM	#24
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Nice watch! __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

29 July 2009, 02:06 AM	#25
SubmarinerMan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Bedfordshire, UK Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,046	Congrats = ) Enjoy your Sub! Great pics! __________________ Rolex Submariner 16610 LV 'M'. Rolex Submariner 16610 'M'. Rolex Sea-Dweller 126600. Omega Seamaster 2226.80.00. Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 2907.50.91 .

29 July 2009, 11:34 PM	#26
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,242	Cool review and photos Great watch that is for sure, close to perfection After scrolling down 20 photos of the box I was relieved to see a watch Congrats __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

30 July 2009, 02:44 AM	#27
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,372	Congrats on an icon in sport watches...love mine... nice write up and photos! __________________ too much into watches...

30 July 2009, 12:49 PM	#28
YuppieKid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: West Coast, US Posts: 1,079	Beautiful.

31 July 2009, 08:24 AM	#29
edhughes1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Ed Location: Hereford UK Watch: Explorer II Posts: 25	Nice photos, its brother says hello! Ed

17 August 2009, 09:28 PM	#30
CyberPaol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Marco Location: Italy Watch: Rolex and Omega Posts: 266	I did exactly the same, last week! Now I'm wearing my amazing 14060M V series with rrr! I own a 14060M no C.O.S.C. F series, too. But I prefer the C.O.S.C. one...

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