Musicians Actors etc

[Mini2]

I see a lot of musicians, actors, actresses, sports stars wearing Patek.

More noticeable some artists like John Mayer, Drake, Ed Sheeran all wearing the new green 5711 one being the Tiffany and the other two diamond variants.

Do you think they have relationships with chosen boutique or are so big that they can call in the favour and the profile of themselves help the brand somewhat.

[Rushne]

John Mayer and Ed Sheeran have spent crazy money on non steel sports for years, so I guess it's not just celebrity status getting them their pieces.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by Rushne

John Mayer and Ed Sheeran have spent crazy money on non steel sports for years, so I guess it's not just celebrity status getting them their pieces.

Valid but I'm sure there are many people who have been buying pateks for decades but haven't got the deep pockets of some of these celebs?

[Ichiran]

I understand some of these sports stars buy from grey dealers too. Saw a few episodes in YouTube where grey dealers help them get watches. Maybe the premium is not a big factor for them, such that they can afford to get any watch without a wait?

[szabo_martin]

Celebrity factor goes a long way, its a huge advertisement for companies.

[Vipes]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I understand some of these sports stars buy from grey dealers too. Saw a few episodes in YouTube where grey dealers help them get watches. Maybe the premium is not a big factor for them, such that they can afford to get any watch without a wait?

I think a lot of celebs and pro athletes that are just getting into watches get straight from grey dealers. Just saw an episode of Watch Eric where an NBA athlete bought a ceramic AP RO Chrono/tourbillon from him as his first high end watch.

[scurfa]

A lot of U.K. comedians buy Pateks and have been long before the current madness


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[uniqueMR]

Its all about buying power (spending) and relationships.
You don't need to be "famous" to buy them :)

[QuantumOceanLawyer]

I had an AP salesperson in Beverly Hills tell me “I have trouble getting pieces for my celebrity clients. It’s unlikely that’ll I’ll be able to get one for you.”


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[dauster]

Originally Posted by QuantumOceanLawyer

I had an AP salesperson in Beverly Hills tell me “I have trouble getting pieces for my celebrity clients. It’s unlikely that’ll I’ll be able to get one for you.”


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sounds like real talk to me. I always wonder if you take all celebs including international soccer stars, cricket and a bunch of other sports not to mention musicians and actors (all with deep pockets) and then think about the production number of some of these pieces per year which is like 10-50 pieces for complicated pieces. I doubt that there will ever be a time in the near future where I will ever get the call.

[QuantumOceanLawyer]

Originally Posted by dauster

sounds like real talk to me. I always wonder if you take all celebs including international soccer stars, cricket and a bunch of other sports not to mention musicians and actors (all with deep pockets) and then think about the production number of some of these pieces per year which is like 10-50 pieces for complicated pieces. I doubt that there will ever be a time in the near future where I will ever get the call.

He told me “your best bet is to just leave 20 grand with me and if one comes around that I don’t have to give to one of them, I’ll let you know”


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[dauster]

Originally Posted by QuantumOceanLawyer

He told me “your best bet is to just leave 20 grand with me and if one comes around that I don’t have to give to one of them, I’ll let you know”


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lol so a deposit with no delivery date or promise

[fsprow]

Originally Posted by dauster

lol so a deposit with no delivery date or promise

I don't believe the money was intended as a deposit.

[QuantumOceanLawyer]

Originally Posted by fsprow

I don't believe the money was intended as a deposit.

That’s Westime for you.


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[AK797]

They would be getting them from grey dealers with whom they have relationships, in fact I know London and Manchester dealers who were selling to footballers before the hype started, those guys back then still wanted a bargain and a discount off of retail. I was offered Robbie Savage's old Rolex once, I think the grey thought this was a plus point!

[dauster]

Originally Posted by QuantumOceanLawyer

That’s Westime for you.


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didn't know we are already talking str8 bribery

[TimepieceRPP]

Originally Posted by uniquemr

its all about buying power (spending) and relationships.
You don't need to be "famous" to buy them :)

+1

[PPcollector]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

Its all about buying power (spending) and relationships.
You don't need to be "famous" to buy them :)

Agreed..and I would also add passion for the brand as well!

[wcs2229]

Celebs know people who have all the right connections.

[Emery]

Just read on Hodinkee today some musician bought a Nautilus from a reseller which turned out to be a fake, so I guess not all of them play the relationship game with the manufacture.

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by dauster

sounds like real talk to me. I always wonder if you take all celebs including international soccer stars, cricket and a bunch of other sports not to mention musicians and actors (all with deep pockets) and then think about the production number of some of these pieces per year which is like 10-50 pieces for complicated pieces. I doubt that there will ever be a time in the near future where I will ever get the call.

Good point! And you left out all the newly minted IPO millionaires, in all forms including SPACs, plus Bitcoin (and other crypto currencies) millionaires all of whom have money raining down on their heads. Throw in the trillions of $s created in the latest stock market rally since Covid began, all of which went to the average person, of course, and you're painting a grim picture for watch availability.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by cascavel

Good point! And you left out all the newly minted IPO millionaires, in all forms including SPACs, plus Bitcoin (and other crypto currencies) millionaires all of whom have money raining down on their heads. Throw in the trillions of $s created in the latest stock market rally since Covid began, all of which went to the average person, of course, and you're painting a grim picture for watch availability.

Thats all well and good these people have money to burn but does Patek have the ethos to whoever has the deepest pockets gets the product. Does loyalty not stand for anything, it weren't too long ago Patek was giving out discount to move sports let alone the other pieces.
Never forget your roots

[pav333hp]

Celebrity status definitely helps, for example Jonh Mayer and Mark Wahlberg got their Tiffany stamped directly from Tiffany. Also, even if you are not a celebrity, but a long time client with years of purchase history, that also helps. I've talked to several Patek ADs who received multiple allocations of the olive green 5711, and all confirmed they went to long time, generational clients who've shopped at the store for many years, and spend multi millions with them. So either you are a VVVIP, celebrity, or close friend with the owners - that's how you get watches like 5711s.

[scurfa]

Originally Posted by pav333hp

Celebrity status definitely helps, for example Jonh Mayer and Mark Wahlberg got their Tiffany stamped directly from Tiffany. Also, even if you are not a celebrity, but a long time client with years of purchase history, that also helps. I've talked to several Patek ADs who received multiple allocations of the olive green 5711, and all confirmed they went to long time, generational clients who've shopped at the store for many years, and spend multi millions with them. So either you are a VVVIP, celebrity, or close friend with the owners - that's how you get watches like 5711s.

Patek specified an extensive collection before a 5711 green could of been supplied, Being a small buyer with only a few Patek’s I’m now moving on, the books and old catalog collection, trips to Geneva, shows including the 2015 grand exhibition have proven enjoyable but utterly pointless, being a Patek fan and enthusiast today unless your a billionaire is a complete waste of time.


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[Token74]

Originally Posted by Mini2

Thats all well and good these people have money to burn but does Patek have the ethos to whoever has the deepest pockets gets the product. Does loyalty not stand for anything, it weren't too long ago Patek was giving out discount to move sports let alone the other pieces.
Never forget your roots

It also wasn’t too long ago that a lot of folk on here were buying from grey dealers instead of ADs because it was cheaper. Two sides to every story.


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[Mini2]

Originally Posted by Token74

It also wasn’t too long ago that a lot of folk on here were buying from grey dealers instead of ADs because it was cheaper. Two sides to every story.


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I am talking about the loyal folk who bought from the AD and not the grey. They were here long before me but big spend seems to be priority with majority of brands these days rather than true watch lovers some of which were here before these crazy times.