According to Rolex, there is NO Batgirl

[t60]

Don't care. As long as people can easily tell me something that instantly gives me the picture of the watch in my head. Batgirl/Batman does the trick. Batman with Jubilee takes too long. Don't even get me started on the reference number.

[cerendigit]

What I personally find disturbing is that nobody was complaining about the nickname Batman. People only started complaining when they came up with the name batgirl.

Some people clearly have a problem with femininity, not with nicknames based on comic books characters.

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

Just buy the BLNR already and forget about Batman, Batgirl, Bruce Wayne, Nightwing, Dark Knight, Dick Grayson, or whatever silly name TRF comes up with.

Its either original BLNR
BLNR oyster
BLNR jubilee

This.

[PepsiBezel]

Originally Posted by Jamhot

Please read the dictionary so that you understand what consistency means. The fact that this "Batgirl" pet name is based on a change of bracelet is obviously inconsistent.There is no other watch in the Rolex catalog that derives its nickname from the bracelet. Early Rolex watches had lug holes because the owner was expected to remove the bracelet. I think there is no watch in human history that got its nickname from the bracelet.

“The President” or “Presidential” are longstanding nicknames for the Day-Date, and that nickname is derived from the bracelet.

[Mystro]

The issue or rub has always been that the “Pepsi” didn’t get its name changed regardless the bracelet or even materials. There was no reason to change the BLNR. No one is anti chick name or pushing some anti feminist agenda.
We have gone round and round on this topic.

The classic drink names (Pepsi,Coke, RB, etc..)seem so much more organic as they never needed a digital platform.

[mg18]

Originally Posted by Mystro

The issue or rub has always been that the “Pepsi” didn’t get its name changed regardless the bracelet or even materials. There was no reason to change the BLNR. No one is anti chick name or pushing some anti feminist agenda.
We have gone round and round on this topic.

The classic drink names (Pepsi,Coke, RB, etc..)seem so much more organic as they never needed a digital platform.

While I agree that a bracelet change shouldn't change a nickname from batman to batgirl, and I personally use BLNR, but what is the direct feminine contrast to pepsi? It seems the name is already "gender neutral".

[BroncoOne]

Originally Posted by mg18

While I agree that a bracelet change shouldn't change a nickname from batman to batgirl, and I personally use BLNR, but what is the direct feminine contrast to pepsi? It seems the name is already "gender neutral".

It’s because people who own the first BLNR on oyster are insecure because it has an inferior movement to the new BLNR and are afraid it will lose value over time(it won’t- it remains an iconic and highly desired watch because of its firsts and other good reasons).

However, now that you can get the better BLNR on either bracelet (well, maybe the “it’s feminine!”crowd probably can’t ) it should be a non-issue.

[lmcgbaj]

It's misogynistic not to call it Batgirl. After all it's a woman watch.

#shotsFired

[watchaholic777]

Batgirl just makes no sense. So if I slap an oyster pcl bracelet on a “batgirl” all of a sudden I have a Batman and not a batgirl? That's stupid...

[IamJacky]

Originally Posted by watchaholic777

Batgirl just makes no sense. So if I slap an oyster pcl bracelet on a “batgirl” all of a sudden I have a Batman and not a batgirl? That's stupid...

You're quite adamant about this Batman Batgirl thing. It's just a nickname for people who are too lazy to address the full reference number.

Instead of saying 116710/126710BLNR Oyster, it's easier to say Batman; and likewise Batgirl for 126710BLNR Jubilee. That's it.

[Cwillis0001]

Call it whatever you want. Or don't.

[DoDe]

Originally Posted by garyk

So glad to see someone brave enough to attempt to eliminate at least one really stupid nickname! Well done!!

Btw, while driving my detailed car to a Porsche club event near my home early yesterday morning, a bat flew into my windshield. Scared the crap out of me and he survived in spite of leaving a little greasy trail across the windshield. My friends are now calling my white convertible the “Batmobile” after I told this story lol…so yet another bat inspired nickname damnit…

A Porsche convertible is to small and feminine to be Batmobile. But they are durable. How about «Reliant Robin»?

[JElvis]

Originally Posted by Marcjvr

Of all the hills there are to die on, why choose this one

probably the best post I have EVER read

[drrd]

Originally Posted by Mystro

The issue or rub has always been that the “Pepsi” didn’t get its name changed regardless the bracelet or even materials. There was no reason to change the BLNR. No one is anti chick name or pushing some anti feminist agenda.
We have gone round and round on this topic.

The classic drink names (Pepsi,Coke, RB, etc..)seem so much more organic as they never needed a digital platform.

There wasn't a witty feminine twist on Pepsi. PepShe is a bit rubbish.

Batgirl though, that's clever.

Supposedly mature men taking offense to suggestions that their watch might be in some way feminine, that they by association might be in some way feminine - that is 'anti-chick' and sad and boring.

[cerendigit]

Yes definitely, some people are hiding behind the “ bracelet shouldn’t dictate the name “-argument (for which the presidential is the perfect counter example). The real problem is that batgirl is a feminine take on the nickname Batman not that it’s a different name.

PS oh and by the way feminine and feminism are two different things.


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[cerendigit]

Actually, if instead of batgirl, the nickname with something like “venom”, or some other masculine comic books character, nobody would have complained


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[Mystro]

Originally Posted by cerendigit

Actually, if instead of batgirl, the nickname with something like “venom”, or some other masculine comic books character, nobody would have complained


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Meh, all the comic book names are far from universally liked.

[Brew]

Originally Posted by drrd

There wasn't a witty feminine twist on Pepsi. PepShe is a bit rubbish.

Batgirl though, that's clever.

Supposedly mature men taking offense to suggestions that their watch might be in some way feminine, that they by association might be in some way feminine - that is 'anti-chick' and sad and boring.

Except that’s not what actually happened. The “girl” name was used to try to denote a lesser watch, because of the less masculine bracelet. That’s what’s offensive: Implying something is lesser because it’s viewed as more feminine.


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[watchaholic777]

Originally Posted by Brew

Except that’s not what actually happened. The “girl” name was used to try to denote a lesser watch, because of the less masculine bracelet. That’s what’s offensive: Implying something is lesser because it’s viewed as more feminine.


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Truth.


I see the batgirl name pointless now since Rolex allows people now to buy the other bracelet from factory. So if someone bought a BLNR on jubilee, and they order the oyster from Rolex, what, now is it a batgirl or batman?

[drrd]

Originally Posted by Brew

Except that’s not what actually happened. The “girl” name was used to try to denote a lesser watch, because of the less masculine bracelet. That’s what’s offensive: Implying something is lesser because it’s viewed as more feminine.

You can see it that way, and you're agreeing with my point: taking offense to suggestions that their watch might be in some way feminine, that they by association might be in some way feminine.

What if it is more sparkly, more like jewellery, more feminine? What if you like it? It's not an insult or a pop at someone's masculinity.

[Brew]

Originally Posted by drrd

You can see it that way, and you're agreeing with my point: taking offense to suggestions that their watch might be in some way feminine, that they by association might be in some way feminine.

What if it is more sparkly, more like jewellery, more feminine? What if you like it? It's not an insult or a pop at someone's masculinity.

Not at all. Some nicknames are born out of fondness and love. This one was pure internet fanboy misogyny, and is therefor offensive. It has nothing to do with being concerned with being called a girl.


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[drrd]

Originally Posted by Brew

Not at all. Some nicknames are born out of fondness and love. This one was pure misogyny, and is therefor offensive. It has nothing to do with being concerned with being called a girl.


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OK fine.

Misogyny on the part of those who assign a feminine label as a slur, equal misogyny on the part of those that take it as one.

You're right it has nothing to do with being concerned with being called a girl. It's about being OK with someone saying you're wearing a girly watch.

[cerendigit]

Originally Posted by drrd

It's about being OK with someone saying you're wearing a girly watch.

I think a lot of people (in this forum) are not ok with that, and that’s the problem.


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[garyk]

Originally Posted by DoDe

A Porsche convertible is to small and feminine to be Batmobile. But they are durable. How about «Reliant Robin»?

Feminine? Uurrrggg…

[JonTheKingJames]

The GMT Batman with a Jubilee is a beautiful watch, you wouldn’t catch me dead calling it a “Batgirl”.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by JonTheKingJames

The GMT Batman with a Jubilee is a beautiful watch, you wouldn’t catch me dead calling it a “Batgirl”.

I agree, batgirl is a ridiculous nickname as are most...

[watchaholic777]

Originally Posted by JonTheKingJames

The GMT Batman with a Jubilee is a beautiful watch, you wouldn’t catch me dead calling it a “Batgirl”.

Originally Posted by garyk

I agree, batgirl is a ridiculous nickname as are most...

100% agree. BLNR on Jubilee is perfect and I would just call it Batman with Jubilee or BLNR with Jubilee.

With Rolex allowing the option to buy an oyster or jubilee and vice versa for the BLNR, the batgirl moniker is dead.

[rmwill]

None of these silly nicknames are recognized by Rolex.

Originally Posted by watchaholic777

Even according to Rolex, BLNR on jubilee isn’t called a Batgirl but is actually referenced to as a Batman.

So, why do some people still insist to call the BLNR jubilee a batgirl.

When you search the official Rolex website for “Batman” the BLNR jubilee is actually the one that shows up..not even the oyster version. When you search “blnr” both Batman on jubilee and oyster show up. No results show for batgirl.

So…can we just agree that it’s still a Batman?

[watchaholic777]

Originally Posted by rmwill

None of these silly nicknames are recognized by Rolex.

Not recognized? I think it officially is not recognized but I mean if you search their site for Batman it pulls up the BLNR on jubilee

[rmwill]

All the "silly" nicknames work, except Batman returns the Batgirl lol. Learned something new!

Originally Posted by watchaholic777

Not recognized? I think it officially is not recognized but I mean if you search their site for Batman it pulls up the BLNR on jubilee