AP Pulls out of OnlyWatch 2023

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by edo

I know Ben and Hodinkee are a nice target to mock, even I do it sometimes for fun, but let's get real... guy built a empire, he made watch collab with 20+ brands not something that many, if anyone, can brag about...

3 years later I still can't get over the great travel clock rip-off. That was just taking the piss, akin to the infamous Panerai Brooklyn Bridge.

But I agree with the general point, no-one should expect serious journalism when people's whole existence is build on their brand relationships.

[In-N-Out]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

Because i love AP and am genuinely sad seeing where the company is now.

Explain more what direction you think AP is now headed towards.

And perhaps what course correction you think AP needs.

Your lack of effort in describing your dismissal of AP’s current and future releases demonstrate either a lack of understanding on your part or a lack of understanding on our part in what your reasoning actually is

AP has always done collabs that were “questionable” for its time. Jay z, Arnold, lebron, Shaq. Now you complain about marvel?

ROO was a best seller for many years and no one even wanted a RO up until recently in the last 5 years.

As for code 11, sentiment surrounding the latest releases are quickly changing

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

True, but let's not forget that AP is a one watch company and for innovation releases spiderman limited editions...

Tiresome. Maybe the mods can sticky that for you, and you can move on, instead of regurgitating the same line as non sequitur in every other thread?

[edo]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

3 years later I still can't get over the great travel clock rip-off. That was just taking the piss, akin to the infamous Panerai Brooklyn Bridge.



But I agree with the general point, no-one should expect serious journalism when people's whole existence is build on their brand relationships.

These two and Goldberger shitshow was their biggest fails. And they covered OW just like I was thinking they will do, without mentioning Santa Laura or their beloved Perez...

And speaking of hate of one watch companies, the one I hate the most is Rolex... just the oystercase after ostercase model... even the most famous one watch company AP did more on Code line then they do on the Cellini one

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by edo

And speaking of hate of one watch companies, the one I hate the most is Rolex... just the oystercase after ostercase model... even the most famous one watch company AP did more on Code line then they do on the Cellini one

Exactly. Rolex literally has 2 cases and almost every watch is a permutation of that (e.g, datejust, day-date, Daytona, SkyD; submariner, gmt, and yacht master)

I like Rolex but let’s not pretend like it’s a diverse or non-redundant brand

[gretch6364]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Exactly. Rolex literally has 2 cases and almost every watch is a permutation of that (e.g, datejust, day-date, Daytona, SkyD; submariner, gmt, and yacht master)

I like Rolex but let’s not pretend like it’s a diverse or non-redundant brand

But but...the bezels! They change all the time

[SMD]

Originally Posted by Xenophon

That's an unusual opinion and possibly libellous to express on a Rolex watch forum

Yeah, not even close.

[rcwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by gretch6364

But but...the bezels! They change all the time

Also in different colors too.


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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by In-N-Out

Explain more what direction you think AP is now headed towards.

And perhaps what course correction you think AP needs.

Your lack of effort in describing your dismissal of AP’s current and future releases demonstrate either a lack of understanding on your part or a lack of understanding on our part in what your reasoning actually is

AP has always done collabs that were “questionable” for its time. Jay z, Arnold, lebron, Shaq. Now you complain about marvel?

ROO was a best seller for many years and no one even wanted a RO up until recently in the last 5 years.

As for code 11, sentiment surrounding the latest releases are quickly changing

No point in debating with him.

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Tiresome. Maybe the mods can sticky that for you, and you can move on, instead of regurgitating the same line as non sequitur in every other thread?

Totally agree!

[edo]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Exactly. Rolex literally has 2 cases and almost every watch is a permutation of that (e.g, datejust, day-date, Daytona, SkyD; submariner, gmt, and yacht master)

I like Rolex but let’s not pretend like it’s a diverse or non-redundant brand

Yes, no hate for Rolex at all... just wanted to point that one watch company nonsense...

[John Doyle]

With the comparison with Rolex, apologies but two wrongs don't make it right.
We have to agree that rolex cases are "normal". No sharp angles, no super nicely brushed vs polished surfaces etc. Plus they resemble typical watches since forever (round dial etc). The royal oak is a completely different story. It's a statement design. AP knows it and are still capitalizing on it no matter what the people on this forum say. Again i own a royal oak and see absolutely zero value in purchasing any other model from the royal oak line as it's purely cosmetics changes. . Even AP acknowledges it by calling all their models royal oak or royal oak offshore. Maybe it's a marketing thing and if they changed the name to something different it would make me feel better, but they can't at this stage. I owned a diver and a bumblebee and sold them both as I got bored of them.
AP of the past released countless stunning models, whether it's in the Jules Audemars line or other lines. I would personally like to go back to these times where AP was actually innovative in their watch designs as opposed to regurgitating the same twice a year. And the code takes its cues from the royal oak so to me it's another variant of the royal oak, and a bad one at that, no matter how many complications they stick in it to justify the R&D costs and bad design.
The collabs done with artists before were actually nice and innovative- fantastic use of materials and colors. Absolutely incomparable to marvel, power rangers, teletubbies or gi-joe (which will come probably come next, mark my words) that we are seeing nowadays.
Anyway we are all entitled to our opinions and would appreciate a bit of decency in response to my comments as opposed to clinging on what i say and being offended, as if you had shares in the company.
Counter-argument what i say productively if you believe i'm wrong.