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Old 20 February 2024, 03:09 AM   #1
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Would you guys trade the hulk and pepsi Jubliee plus 5K cash for the weekly calendar? BNIB.
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Old 20 February 2024, 03:12 AM   #2
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Seems too much to me.
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Old 20 February 2024, 03:36 AM   #3
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Seems too much to me.
I can see how some would think it would be too much, but hulk and pepsi doesnt do it for me and value wise, I’m getting good value back since I bought them at retail.
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Old 20 February 2024, 06:22 AM   #4
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straight trade would be fair, extra 5k is way too much.
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Old 20 February 2024, 06:59 AM   #5
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straight trade with no cash on top .. yes
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Old 20 February 2024, 07:03 AM   #6
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it's close. the market value of the blro is low 20's and the hulk high teens. and 5212 can be had for high 30's. the extra 5k is basically the spread between the bid and the ask, so if you really want the 5212 it might be worth it to you.

if you tried to sell the blro and the hulk individually, i doubt you'd get the full market value of bnib 5212.

if i really wanted the 5212 (which i kinda do btw), i'd consider this, but would definitely try and negotiate the 5K down.
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Old 20 February 2024, 07:21 AM   #7
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it's close. the market value of the blro is low 20's and the hulk high teens. and 5212 can be had for high 30's. the extra 5k is basically the spread between the bid and the ask, so if you really want the 5212 it might be worth it to you.

if you tried to sell the blro and the hulk individually, i doubt you'd get the full market value of bnib 5212.

if i really wanted the 5212 (which i kinda do btw), i'd consider this, but would definitely try and negotiate the 5K down.
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Old 20 February 2024, 07:58 AM   #8
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Would you guys trade the hulk and pepsi Jubliee plus 5K cash for the weekly calendar? BNIB.

Isn’t the 5212 trading in the high 30s? Hulk Pepsi together should cover this no ?

Frankly I would say no. If you don’t like the two
Rolexes I’d do the trade without the extra cash seems to steep


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Old 20 February 2024, 08:33 AM   #9
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it's close. the market value of the blro is low 20's and the hulk high teens. and 5212 can be had for high 30's. the extra 5k is basically the spread between the bid and the ask, so if you really want the 5212 it might be worth it to you.

if you tried to sell the blro and the hulk individually, i doubt you'd get the full market value of bnib 5212.

if i really wanted the 5212 (which i kinda do btw), i'd consider this, but would definitely try and negotiate the 5K down.
This is what im thinking too since hulk and pepsi doesnt cover the bnib for 2024.
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Old 20 February 2024, 08:35 AM   #10
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Isn’t the 5212 trading in the high 30s? Hulk Pepsi together should cover this no ?

Frankly I would say no. If you don’t like the two
Rolexes I’d do the trade without the extra cash seems to steep


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No it wouldnt cover it, since im doing trade in vs straight up selling. The two watches plus 5k is basically msrp plus tax for the Patek.
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Old 20 February 2024, 08:36 AM   #11
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it's close. the market value of the blro is low 20's and the hulk high teens. and 5212 can be had for high 30's. the extra 5k is basically the spread between the bid and the ask, so if you really want the 5212 it might be worth it to you.

if you tried to sell the blro and the hulk individually, i doubt you'd get the full market value of bnib 5212.

if i really wanted the 5212 (which i kinda do btw), i'd consider this, but would definitely try and negotiate the 5K down.
I was able to get it down to 5k from 6k, so basically paying msrp plus tax after trade and cash.
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Old 20 February 2024, 09:19 AM   #12
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Absolutely do this trade if you aren’t feeling the LV and gmt2.

The math supports you. For example, Davidsw has each listed for around $23k. But you aren’t going to sell them to him for $23k. Say you sell them each to him for $18k each. Thats $36k plus $5k is $41k which is around where Watchbox (for example ) is selling one and it’s also around mrsp plus tax for new one.

Dont let others dissuade you for a few thousand difference on a $40k watch if it is what you want.


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Old 20 February 2024, 11:46 AM   #13
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Absolutely do this trade if you aren’t feeling the LV and gmt2.

The math supports you. For example, Davidsw has each listed for around $23k. But you aren’t going to sell them to him for $23k. Say you sell them each to him for $18k each. Thats $36k plus $5k is $41k which is around where Watchbox (for example ) is selling one and it’s also around mrsp plus tax for new one.

Dont let others dissuade you for a few thousand difference on a $40k watch if it is what you want.


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Thanks. I just wanted to know what folks thought, My thought was there was going to be push back and its fair because the hulk and pepsi are hard to get hyped watches. But in the end the numbers work out to msrp plus tax for the trade in, and I get a lot of trade value since I bought the Rolexes at retail and had zero chance with Patek AD.
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Old 20 February 2024, 12:15 PM   #14
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I don't think the 5212a is really that hard to get anymore. Have you enquired with a Patek boutique? Might be worth your time and could be the start of a fruitful relationship.
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Old 20 February 2024, 01:16 PM   #15
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I don't think the 5212a is really that hard to get anymore. Have you enquired with a Patek boutique? Might be worth your time and could be the start of a fruitful relationship.
I have looked into it, being in NYC its not happening. Time is money, I wont be wasting time begging. It is what it is.
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Old 20 February 2024, 01:33 PM   #16
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Old 20 February 2024, 03:33 PM   #17
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that seems like fair trade + cash, esp if you the Hulk and Pepsi don't tickle your fancy

Good time to buy BNIB 5212 as it trading at MSRP + tax.
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Old 20 February 2024, 03:47 PM   #18
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I would do it - the 5212 is the nicest watch Patek makes around 40k. Plus I have a feeling the current iteration will get discontinued soon.
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Old 20 February 2024, 04:05 PM   #19
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5212 can be had low-30. You’re being taken for a ride.
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Old 20 February 2024, 05:32 PM   #20
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I don't think the 5212a is really that hard to get anymore. Have you enquired with a Patek boutique? Might be worth your time and could be the start of a fruitful relationship.
Still haven't seen anyone getting this as a first piece
Also my AD explicitly said there's no chance I am getting this piece next, as they won't allocate two steels in a role, and the 5212 is also a sporty watch (yes bullshit I know, I'd say the two steel in a row is the main reason)
Probably won't be hard to get if you buy sth else first, but I don't think this makes sense when secondary market is largely at IPO price now
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Old 20 February 2024, 10:25 PM   #21
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I would not based on the numbers. Not a fair deal for you.
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Old 20 February 2024, 11:14 PM   #22
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Perhaps best to take the time and sell those pieces privately for better return and then go for a piece in nice condition from a reputable seller. The retail prices are so crazy these days best to get grey even if offered retail my opinion.
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Old 21 February 2024, 12:11 AM   #23
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5212 can be had low-30. You’re being taken for a ride.
I’ve seen it for mid 30’s from dealer/people I’ve never seen before and its not BNIB, so that’s a pass for me.
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Perhaps best to take the time and sell those pieces privately for better return and then go for a piece in nice condition from a reputable seller. The retail prices are so crazy these days best to get grey even if offered retail my opinion.
Too many scammers and too much work to sell privately, thats the trade off by selling to a known dealer, you gwt a little less but peace of mind.
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I would not based on the numbers. Not a fair deal for you.
Appreciate your feedback, if i was selling for market price it wouldnt be fair, but i would be trading with a known dealer and of course i would be getting a little less, hence why its plus cash for 2024 BNIB.
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Perhaps best to take the time and sell those pieces privately for better return and then go for a piece in nice condition from a reputable seller. The retail prices are so crazy these days best to get grey even if offered retail my opinion.
I agree with the above. You know you are getting a slight haircut with the trade-in. If you are alright with this, then go for it. For me, I would opt to sell the pieces myself and then negotiate a better deal for the 5212. There has never been an issue when I have sold in the past. But of course, as you noted, there is some risk involved.
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I was able to get it down to 5k from 6k, so basically paying msrp plus tax after trade and cash.
I get it, but imo you have two watches which are super easy sellers for any grey dealer and I don't think the 5212 is flying off the shelves but ultimately do what makes you happy. I would not put any cash and wait for the patek to drop over the next months.
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I’ve seen it for mid 30’s from dealer/people I’ve never seen before and its not BNIB, so that’s a pass for me.
Tell you what. I was offered a lightly used 2021 fullset from a solid grey dealer for 28.5 (yes, twenty-eight) tax included and passed on it. I now regret I did but just saying where the market is at. Sorry if you came here to hear people tell you to pull the trigger but again: you’re not getting a fair deal.
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Old 21 February 2024, 08:29 AM   #29
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Tell you what. I was offered a lightly used 2021 fullset from a solid grey dealer for 28.5 (yes, twenty-eight) tax included and passed on it. I now regret I did but just saying where the market is at. Sorry if you came here to hear people tell you to pull the trigger but again: you’re not getting a fair deal.
Calm down brother…just wanted to hear peoples thoughts, I’m a big boy and can make my own decisions. Dont get mad at me because you missed your oppty.
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Old 21 February 2024, 08:33 AM   #30
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Gents,

Thank you for all your thoughts and opinions on the trade, I do appreciate the feedback. I do plan to move forward as I think its a fair trade in my opinion. Time is money and dont have the time to sell the watches myself and take any risks on that end.
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