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Gamora · 23 October 2020, 08:31 AM

Hey all, I have had the 5712 for few months now and it has been worn sparingly. Mostly it’s been in a box with other watches. I noticed this today. It is more orangish in real life and I can’t seem to clean it off. I have seen 1-2 other posts here where there was apparently rust on the Nautilus bracelet around the pin holes. However, this is a different area on the bracelet.

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Etschell · 23 October 2020, 10:20 AM

Looks more like oxidation

HMHM · 23 October 2020, 10:34 AM

Doesn’t look too good.
Take it back to PP and see what they say about it just to be safe.

Moondoggy · 23 October 2020, 11:40 AM

Looks like red wine.

AlyRba · 23 October 2020, 12:23 PM

The stain is orange in color, appears red in the photo.

brandrea · 23 October 2020, 12:24 PM

Not again

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ght=Rust+Patek

EEpro · 23 October 2020, 12:54 PM

fsprow · 23 October 2020, 09:31 PM

Materials Science background here. Stainless steel is not truly "stainless" but rather highly resistant. The 316L used by Patek and most others is subject to surface corrosion (not rusting, which is the result of oxidation). This appears as a surface discoloration.

Do not use WD40 as it is a poor corrosion remover and a dirt magnet. I suggest, if you want to handle yourself, purchasing a stainless steel cleaner at the hardware store and I believe that will work. Such corrosion/stains typically come from contact from a hot fluid (coffee etc.) but not always.

The earlier posts showing pin corrosion obviously resulted in a poor grade of stainless being used in that application.

Good luck.

joli160 · 23 October 2020, 09:35 PM

Might be rust again.
Contrary to a common misconception SS does indeed rust.
I work in the Marine industry and see it everyday.

Gold or Pt remains the best material to make watches

Corrosion resistent would be a better word for the material we call SS

Calatrava r · 24 October 2020, 01:22 AM

Sad to hear this with the watch being so new and worn sparingly.

GB-man · 24 October 2020, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsprow

Do not use WD40 as it is a poor corrosion remover and a dirt magnet.

Good luck.

Glad we cleared that one up.

I joke. Your input was informative and useful but I can't help but laugh at the OP hitting his 5712 with WD40.

Nikrnic · 24 October 2020, 01:57 AM

Use a Qtip to touch and let sit with a rust removing gel from an auto parts store? IDK. Is that really surface corrosion? Best to show your AD first.

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AlyRba · 24 October 2020, 03:13 AM

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bonsai-man · 24 October 2020, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Glad we cleared that one up.

I joke. Your input was informative and useful but I can't help but laugh at the OP hitting his 5712 with WD40.

As the first and original poster with the rust issue I was going to offer advice, but based on the piss take (one of which I quote above) I’ll not bother and wish the OP the best of luck instead.

This forum was about about watches a few years ago but lately has become a troll fest. Posts like this are why I seldom post any more and never updated my original rusty 5711 thread that was only resolved 2 weeks ago by Patek.

fsprow · 24 October 2020, 04:08 AM

Could I ask if was indeed poor pin metallurgy?
Thanks, Frank

GB-man · 24 October 2020, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonsai-man

As the first and original poster with the rust issue I was going to offer advice, but based on the piss take (one of which I quote above) I’ll not bother and wish the OP the best of luck instead.

This forum was about about watches a few years ago but lately has become a troll fest. Posts like this are why I seldom post any more and never updated my original rusty 5711 thread that was only resolved 2 weeks ago by Patek.

Lighten up rusty.

JSolution · 25 October 2020, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gb-man

lighten up rusty.

😂

JodyHighroller · 25 October 2020, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonsai-man

As the first and original poster with the rust issue I was going to offer advice, but based on the piss take (one of which I quote above) I’ll not bother and wish the OP the best of luck instead.

This forum was about about watches a few years ago but lately has become a troll fest. Posts like this are why I seldom post any more and never updated my original rusty 5711 thread that was only resolved 2 weeks ago by Patek.

I think the forum would benefit overall if you shared the end results.

bonsai-man · 25 October 2020, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JodyHighroller

I think the forum would benefit overall if you shared the end results.

Yes greatly.

GB-man · 25 October 2020, 11:34 PM

I apologize if I offended you bonsai man but I genuinely found it hilarious to picture applying WD40 to a 40k watch to stop the rust. Not sure what that has to do with you assisting the OP.

IBDOC · 27 October 2020, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etschell

Looks more like oxidation

Literally the same thing as rust.

Russell996 · 27 October 2020, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IBDOC

Literally the same thing as rust.

But it sounds so much more technical

MrJKLFoams · 27 October 2020, 04:49 PM

Its a bit of oil or soup from your last ramen meal. My advice is to slow down when you slurp the ramen noodles coz the soup can get anywhere trust me my rolexes are full of them dried stuff I thought its a rust but upon cleaning it with warm water and cotton buds they all disappeared.

23 October 2020, 08:31 AM	#1
Gamora "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: USA Posts: 12	Is this rust on the Nautilus bracelet? Hey all, I have had the 5712 for few months now and it has been worn sparingly. Mostly it’s been in a box with other watches. I noticed this today. It is more orangish in real life and I can’t seem to clean it off. I have seen 1-2 other posts here where there was apparently rust on the Nautilus bracelet around the pin holes. However, this is a different area on the bracelet. IMG_4829.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 October 2020, 10:20 AM	#2
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	Looks more like oxidation __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

23 October 2020, 11:40 AM	#4
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joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,342	Might be rust again. Contrary to a common misconception SS does indeed rust. I work in the Marine industry and see it everyday. Gold or Pt remains the best material to make watches Corrosion resistent would be a better word for the material we call SS __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

23 October 2020, 10:34 AM	#3
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,351	Doesn’t look too good. Take it back to PP and see what they say about it just to be safe.

23 October 2020, 12:23 PM	#5
AlyRba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: USA Posts: 349	The stain is orange in color, appears red in the photo.

23 October 2020, 12:24 PM	#6
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,577	Not again https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ght=Rust+Patek

23 October 2020, 09:31 PM	#8
fsprow "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Frank Location: Dallas,NY,Colo. Watch: Patek 5168, 5170P Posts: 2,397	Materials Science background here. Stainless steel is not truly "stainless" but rather highly resistant. The 316L used by Patek and most others is subject to surface corrosion (not rusting, which is the result of oxidation). This appears as a surface discoloration. Do not use WD40 as it is a poor corrosion remover and a dirt magnet. I suggest, if you want to handle yourself, purchasing a stainless steel cleaner at the hardware store and I believe that will work. Such corrosion/stains typically come from contact from a hot fluid (coffee etc.) but not always. The earlier posts showing pin corrosion obviously resulted in a poor grade of stainless being used in that application. Good luck.

24 October 2020, 01:22 AM	#10
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,580	Sad to hear this with the watch being so new and worn sparingly.

24 October 2020, 01:57 AM	#12
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	Use a Qtip to touch and let sit with a rust removing gel from an auto parts store? IDK. Is that really surface corrosion? Best to show your AD first. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

24 October 2020, 03:13 AM	#13
AlyRba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: USA Posts: 349	deleted Last edited by AlyRba; 24 October 2020 at 04:03 AM.. Reason: Wrong forum

24 October 2020, 04:08 AM	#15
fsprow "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Frank Location: Dallas,NY,Colo. Watch: Patek 5168, 5170P Posts: 2,397	Could I ask if was indeed poor pin metallurgy? Thanks, Frank

25 October 2020, 11:34 PM	#20
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	I apologize if I offended you bonsai man but I genuinely found it hilarious to picture applying WD40 to a 40k watch to stop the rust. Not sure what that has to do with you assisting the OP. __________________

27 October 2020, 04:49 PM	#23
MrJKLFoams "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Australia Watch: RolexOmegaJLC Posts: 466	Its a bit of oil or soup from your last ramen meal. My advice is to slow down when you slurp the ramen noodles coz the soup can get anywhere trust me my rolexes are full of them dried stuff I thought its a rust but upon cleaning it with warm water and cotton buds they all disappeared.

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