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Psijason · 9 June 2018, 06:19 AM

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My lovely :)

These pics are REALLY REALLY great!!! Nice!!!!

cenzo86 · 18 June 2018, 10:39 AM

Can we talk values for a bit?
I've had my eye on the Explorer II for a while. I'm currently hunting for a "last of" the 16570 White and finding it more difficult than I had anticipated. This was a watch, so unloved, that NOS pieces are still available 5 years later. Why would this watch deserve a premium today? The new version is consistently advertised for 5% below msrp.
Can someone please explain how much a perfect watch should cost me?

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Trailblazer · 18 June 2018, 01:25 PM

Had the 40mm black and it was comfortable.. tried the 42mm and found it top heavy despite it being very modern looking

msm5 · 1 November 2020, 01:14 AM

21mm lugs means a new collection of straps.

sambb · 1 November 2020, 01:21 AM

is the bezel replaceable in both, or is it part of the case? (if it gets scratched up)

G3Z · 1 November 2020, 02:00 AM

Bezel is separate on both.

jrs146 · 1 November 2020, 02:37 AM

I think the 42mm explorer ii is my choice of the two. I think the orange hand really sets it apart. And if I’m going with a 5 digit GMT I’m getting a 16710.

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Toproll85 · 1 November 2020, 03:29 AM

Hello !
I have a 1655 and 16550, and I love the format. I also really like the 216570 polar, but the big needles didn't work for me during testing.

For the difference in size in 42mm, if you have a small wrist I don't think it fit very well. I'll go on a previous Explo, more comfortable, in your place, but that's a personal opinion, nothing beats trying and making your choices.

doramas · 2 November 2020, 08:43 AM

16570

Psmith · 2 November 2020, 08:54 AM

Near- 5 year old thread

vcap826 · 2 November 2020, 11:06 AM

To me the 216570 is the only current reference left that traces back to the National Geographic ads I read as a kid where guys navigated the Atlantic in a boat made of papyrus and beeswax and that means more to me than every Instagram wrist roll combined.

Polarexplorerii · 2 November 2020, 11:41 AM

16570 but must be POLAR!

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Paul7 · 2 November 2020, 01:33 PM

It's all about wrist size, the 42mm looked ridiculous on my 6.5" wrist. Love my 2002 16570 black dial. I had a new crystal put on with non-glare cyclops, makes a big difference.

To me the 16570 lughole superluminova is the sweet spot.

Ny325 · 2 November 2020, 04:31 PM

Less is more for me. So I prefer 40mm.

SkyJuice · 2 November 2020, 11:50 PM

I tried both in store before. The 42mm has better clasp and movement update but I went with 40mm because it has more wearability and proportion imo.

Paul7 · 3 November 2020, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyJuice

I tried both in store before. The 42mm has better clasp and movement update but I went with 40mm because it has more wearability and proportion imo.

Speaking of proportions, to me the tiny hour hand on the 42mm is just strange.

MedP · 3 November 2020, 02:15 AM

42mm newer version best !

Lamontsanders · 3 November 2020, 03:58 AM

I have a larger wrist (7.5" flat) and the 42mm polar explorer checks allllll the boxes for me. I have owned a black 42 and a white 40. The black 42 was good but never clicked. I didn't love the 40mm I owned. The Polar 42 is fantastic - legible, comfortable, unique.

dba · 3 November 2020, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

Near- 5 year old thread

Point being?

TopDog2315 · 3 November 2020, 06:17 AM

For me it’s the 16570 as it fits my wrist better as is more elegant imo.

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campfire · 3 November 2020, 07:12 AM

Just got my Polar 42. I do like the dial a lot. The other detail that someone also mentioned is the black circles on the hour markers and the hands. I like the starkness of those against the white dial.

My wrist is a flat 7 inches. It works well I think. Though I wouldn't mind a 40 or 41. The advantage of the larger dial is it's easier for my older eyes.

BillA · 3 November 2020, 07:28 AM

Can we dig up an older thread?

Paul7 · 3 November 2020, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamontsanders

I have a larger wrist (7.5" flat) and the 42mm polar explorer checks allllll the boxes for me. I have owned a black 42 and a white 40. The black 42 was good but never clicked. I didn't love the 40mm I owned. The Polar 42 is fantastic - legible, comfortable, unique.

I can see how the 42mm would look good on a 7.5" wrist.

planemad · 3 November 2020, 08:01 AM

I’m lucky to have a collection of 8 Rolex pieces including a 2019 exp 2 in polar dial.

It’s quite ironic that the exp2 having paid (list price) £6250 for, is the cheapest of the collection but it’s my go to watch every day and the most comfortable of the lot.

I just wish it had the 70hr movment.

Nikrnic · 3 November 2020, 08:05 AM

There both great, having both 5 and 6 dgt Sub, Gmt l went for a 42 Polar. The only white dial I own but that big orange 24 hand really sold me more than it's size, its makes the Blnrs look too subtle and pretty weak in comparison.

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XBMX · 3 November 2020, 08:10 AM

I had a Black 42 for about a year. Really shines with a black OysterFlex or Gator band and Oyster Clasp.

Psmith · 3 November 2020, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dba

Point being?

You've been around this forum long enough to understand.

1 November 2020, 02:37 AM	#97
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	I think the 42mm explorer ii is my choice of the two. I think the orange hand really sets it apart. And if I’m going with a 5 digit GMT I’m getting a 16710. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

1 November 2020, 03:29 AM	#98
Toproll85 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Switzerland Posts: 434	Hello ! I have a 1655 and 16550, and I love the format. I also really like the 216570 polar, but the big needles didn't work for me during testing. For the difference in size in 42mm, if you have a small wrist I don't think it fit very well. I'll go on a previous Explo, more comfortable, in your place, but that's a personal opinion, nothing beats trying and making your choices. __________________ 116500LN ¦ 116610LV ¦ 126505 ¦ 126515LN ¦ 126655 ¦ 126600 ¦ 126710BLNR ¦ 126715CHNR ¦ 226570 ¦ 226659 Grönefeld 1941 RCF ¦ H. Moser Heritage Dual Time ¦ JLC Q1308470 ¦ L&S 1815 Up/Down ¦ L&S Zeitwerk Date ¦ UN Freak X carbonium

2 November 2020, 08:54 AM	#100
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Near- 5 year old thread __________________

3 November 2020, 03:58 AM	#108
Lamontsanders "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: OH Posts: 712	I have a larger wrist (7.5" flat) and the 42mm polar explorer checks allllll the boxes for me. I have owned a black 42 and a white 40. The black 42 was good but never clicked. I didn't love the 40mm I owned. The Polar 42 is fantastic - legible, comfortable, unique. __________________ Rolex: 114060, 116600, 116610LV, 116660 JC, 116710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 326934 x 2, 16520, 16660 x 2, 16800, 16030 Tudor: BB Pro, Pelagos LHD, P01 VC: 4500v

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18 June 2018, 10:39 AM	#92
cenzo86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: NY Posts: 31	Can we talk values for a bit? I've had my eye on the Explorer II for a while. I'm currently hunting for a "last of" the 16570 White and finding it more difficult than I had anticipated. This was a watch, so unloved, that NOS pieces are still available 5 years later. Why would this watch deserve a premium today? The new version is consistently advertised for 5% below msrp. Can someone please explain how much a perfect watch should cost me? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

18 June 2018, 01:25 PM	#93
Trailblazer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Cab Location: A small world Watch: es Posts: 776	Had the 40mm black and it was comfortable.. tried the 42mm and found it top heavy despite it being very modern looking

1 November 2020, 01:14 AM	#94
msm5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: USA Posts: 2	21mm lugs means a new collection of straps.

1 November 2020, 01:21 AM	#95
sambb "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA/UK Posts: 1,287	is the bezel replaceable in both, or is it part of the case? (if it gets scratched up)

1 November 2020, 02:00 AM	#96
G3Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: United Kingdom Watch: Omega, Rolex etc.. Posts: 316	Bezel is separate on both.

2 November 2020, 08:43 AM	#99
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	16570

2 November 2020, 11:06 AM	#101
vcap826 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: New York City Posts: 52	To me the 216570 is the only current reference left that traces back to the National Geographic ads I read as a kid where guys navigated the Atlantic in a boat made of papyrus and beeswax and that means more to me than every Instagram wrist roll combined.

2 November 2020, 11:41 AM	#102
Polarexplorerii "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: SA,TX Watch: 16570,BLNR,116610 Posts: 2,175	16570 but must be POLAR! <<<<<<<<<<

2 November 2020, 01:33 PM	#103
Paul7 Banned Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New Mexico Posts: 898	It's all about wrist size, the 42mm looked ridiculous on my 6.5" wrist. Love my 2002 16570 black dial. I had a new crystal put on with non-glare cyclops, makes a big difference. To me the 16570 lughole superluminova is the sweet spot.

2 November 2020, 04:31 PM	#104
Ny325 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Traffic Watch: DW-5600BB Posts: 2,797	Less is more for me. So I prefer 40mm.

2 November 2020, 11:50 PM	#105
SkyJuice "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 1,411	I tried both in store before. The 42mm has better clasp and movement update but I went with 40mm because it has more wearability and proportion imo.

3 November 2020, 02:15 AM	#107
MedP Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: USA Posts: 36	42mm newer version best !

3 November 2020, 06:17 AM	#110
TopDog2315 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Allessandro Location: Canada Watch: 16610/16570/16220 Posts: 702	For me it’s the 16570 as it fits my wrist better as is more elegant imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 November 2020, 07:12 AM	#111
campfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: here Posts: 2,104	Just got my Polar 42. I do like the dial a lot. The other detail that someone also mentioned is the black circles on the hour markers and the hands. I like the starkness of those against the white dial. My wrist is a flat 7 inches. It works well I think. Though I wouldn't mind a 40 or 41. The advantage of the larger dial is it's easier for my older eyes.

3 November 2020, 07:28 AM	#112
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,603	Can we dig up an older thread?

3 November 2020, 08:01 AM	#114
planemad "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: UK Posts: 321	I’m lucky to have a collection of 8 Rolex pieces including a 2019 exp 2 in polar dial. It’s quite ironic that the exp2 having paid (list price) £6250 for, is the cheapest of the collection but it’s my go to watch every day and the most comfortable of the lot. I just wish it had the 70hr movment.

3 November 2020, 08:05 AM	#115
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,158	There both great, having both 5 and 6 dgt Sub, Gmt l went for a 42 Polar. The only white dial I own but that big orange 24 hand really sold me more than it's size, its makes the Blnrs look too subtle and pretty weak in comparison. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

3 November 2020, 08:10 AM	#116
XBMX "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Rick Location: NYC Watch: Daytona-114060 Sub Posts: 159	I had a Black 42 for about a year. Really shines with a black OysterFlex or Gator band and Oyster Clasp.

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