***leaked photos & specification (Nautilus 6711)***

[jeffyy]

Originally Posted by Valedictorian

Movement downgrade from the new Cal. 26‑330 SC back to the non-hack 324 S seems unlikely.

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[AK797]

Originally Posted by RussW

On a positive note, the sticking date issue has been permanently solved.

Titanium as the SS Blue replacement seems very unlikely, maybe alongside a SS in another dial colour, like silver or grey.

[pav333hp]

My thoughts...

1. These are just rumors and speculations and nothing official, so I'm not holding my breath just yet.

2. I don't like the feel of titanium on a watch. It feels too light, plasticy and cheap. But I'm also one of those individuals that associate weight with quality.

3. Platinum would be incredibly awesome, but I worry that it will have eye watering price. Last platinum 5711 Nautilus was their 40th anniversary, which imho was absolutely stunning, but also six figure price ($113k). But it's Patek and they aren't afraid to release expensive watches to keep the brand name (latest release was $1M+).

At this point, I suppose we wait and see. I just hope it will be something awesome and reasonably priced. I also hope that the 5711 doesn't suffer the same fate as the steel 5980 (arguably the most beautiful steel Nautilus released to date) that got discontinued and never replaced. I actually hope they still have another steel 5711 replacement - improved, but not discontinued.

[Mini2]

What sort of money do we think they would price these pieces at if we take into account the 40th anniversary 1P which was produced in quite a large number (700) which is probably 1.3% of actual watches produced currently

When you take into consideration the Nautilus Ref. 5711/1P 40th Anniversary is getting traded at anything between 260/300k GBP and I think retail was about 85k (excuse me if I am wrong)

This would lead me to say The platinum version would be about 100k GBP at retail

The titanium I wouldn't know where to guess other than its a very hard material even tho it costs less that gold it probably takes more time because of the material so possibly 50k

The only thing I would have done is switch the dial colours, titanium the greyish colour and platinum the blue imo

[Soondooboo]

lol I thought this was already debunked as fake

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Soondooboo

lol I thought this was already debunked as fake

The pictures, absolutely. But, just because someone faked the photos, doesn't prove the rumor untrue...

Like Rolex, Patek seems highly unlikely to allow the leak of such photos. However, someone with inside knowledge, eager to spill the beans, could easily have doctored these together as an "unauthorized preview" of sorts, no?

The obviously phony photos would seem to hurt the rumor's credibility, though.

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by croco68

Don't forget that platinum has a higher density (i.e. more weight in the same volume) and that it's 95% pure, vs. 75% for gold. Also, much more difficult to work with.

True, all good points.

[dannyp]

Also - The first photo is absolutely NOT titanium. Whomever doctored that one did a pretty crap job. The color is off, and the contrast in color between the brushed and polished portions would be far greater.

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

6711/1T-001



Watch:

Self-winding mechanical movement. Caliber 324 S. Sweep seconds hand.



Dial:

Blue sunburst, gold applied hour markers with luminescent coating.





Case:

Titanium. Sapphire-crystal case back. Water resistant to 120 m. Case diameter: 41 mm. Height: 8.1 mm.



Strap:

Titanium bracelet. Fold-over clasp with micro adjustment of 2mm gain on each side of the clasp.







6711/1P-001



Watch:

Self-winding mechanical movement. Caliber 324 S. Sweep seconds hand.



Dial:

Dial: black gradated, gold applied hour markers with luminescent coating.





Case:

Platinum. Sapphire-crystal case back. Water resistant to 120 m. Case diameter: 41 mm. Height: 8.1 mm.



Strap:

Platinum bracelet. Fold-over clasp with micro adjustment of 2mm gain on each side of the clasp.





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Interested rumors...^^^..



If this were to be true....



Love the clean looking dial with the sunburst blue... Plus titanium case & bracelet for light weight.... And finally micro adjustment clasp...



I'm sure 41mm will fit everyone, just fine...... No different than the 40mm.....



As for the platinum.... It a heavy hitters in my book....

If it comes out in a P, I got half my prediction right. Hahaha

I initially said it will be a P with a Salmom dial ages ago.

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[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by liljctl

If it comes out in a P, I got half my prediction right. Hahaha

I initially said it will be a P with a Salmom dial ages ago.

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Salmon P for 45th? I would love to have it but probably 700 pieces only.

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Salmon P for 45th? I would love to have it but probably 700 pieces only.

Hahaha. That's still more than the red aquanaut. Hahaha.

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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Salmon P for 45th?

That makes sense, good call! Another good thing, as mentioned by another TRF'er, is there's no stubborn sticking date so that reduces service calls. Another benefit, no non-matching date dial background to main dial like we see on a plethora of typical entry-level PPs. This new model could mark a move forward for PP.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

That makes sense, good call! Another good thing, as mentioned by another TRF'er, is there's no stubborn sticking date so that reduces service calls. Another benefit, no non-matching date dial background to main dial like we see on a plethora of typical entry-level PPs. This new model could mark a move forward for PP.

I for one don't mind the white date on the 5711. In my eyes a white date window steps in nicely for the missing white marker and it helps in terms of legibility. A dial with matching date tends to come across as if the 3 o'clock hour marker has just been forgotten from the otherwise symmetrical circle of hour markers, almost like a hole if you wish. Different people, different tastes, but no big deal either way.

[V25V]

Why is everyone all jazzed about a non date 5711 thats bigger? If that isn't hype taking over, I do not know what is. If the told and true argument that staying true with the original design is for real purists and collectors, how is this an improvement AT ALL?

[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by V25V

Why is everyone all jazzed about a non date 5711 thats bigger? If that isn't hype taking over, I do not know what is. If the told and true argument that staying true with the original design is for real purists and collectors, how is this an improvement AT ALL?

The original Nautilus (3700/001A) was 42mm...

[V25V]

Originally Posted by IBDOC

The original Nautilus (3700/001A) was 42mm...

True dat but it had a date..... why go no date?

[ts3]

Originally Posted by IBDOC

The original Nautilus (3700/001A) was 42mm...

The 3700 and 5711 are the same 40mm size from 4 to 10. Only difference is the size of the wings. They way you put it suggests that upsizing the 5711 would be a step back towards the original 3700. This is not the case as they have been the same size all along except for the wings.

[JorgeCCW]

Titanium , really ? Titanium is even softer than SS. So they want a convert scratch magnet watch to a Super scratch magnet watch ... LOL.

[ragsk]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

That makes sense, good call! Another good thing, as mentioned by another TRF'er, is there's no stubborn sticking date so that reduces service calls. Another benefit, no non-matching date dial background to main dial like we see on a plethora of typical entry-level PPs. This new model could mark a move forward for PP.

Lack of date is not a great move. I would rather they fix the sticking issue than give up and remove the feature altogether.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by ragsk

Lack of date is not a great move. I would rather they fix the sticking issue than give up and remove the feature altogether.

They did, new hacking movement with no sticking date - now has a lovely click on date change.

[macrowatch]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Titanium , really ? Titanium is even softer than SS. So they want a convert scratch magnet watch to a Super scratch magnet watch ... LOL.

How about some tantalum!

[321Forever]

For April 1st, can someone Photoshop the new 6767A Patek Nautinaut? Nautilus body with integrated tropical strap.

[dchang81]

surprised no removal of the seconds hand

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

How about some tantalum!

Tantalum is very hard to work with , that’s one of the things Journe says about the CB. The temperatures to work are extreme , that’s why is so resistant to corrosion. Plus Nautilus is more on shine side and Tantalum is kind of opaque.


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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Tantalum is very hard to work with , that’s one of the things Journe says about the CB. The temperatures to work are extreme , that’s why is so resistant to corrosion. Plus Nautilus is more on shine side and Tantalum is kind of opaque.

Good point. Am truly grateful we have masterful manufacturers like FP Journe, they'll go the extra mile to achieve something truly unique with extremely high-quality finishing and true design innovation. Them, MB&F, and others are in a far higher league. FP Journe should be something every ultra-fine timepiece enthusiast should have. Plan on getting one

[endo]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Tantalum is very hard to work with , that’s one of the things Journe says about the CB. The temperatures to work are extreme , that’s why is so resistant to corrosion. Plus Nautilus is more on shine side and Tantalum is kind of opaque.


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More a case of “hard to work with cost effectively” than anything else, because of its a tendancy to gall and harden with heat produced by machining it.
(Like everything in life it comes down to the bottom line, and “basic” metals are far cheaper to machine, finish)

Probably worth noting, a tantalum case is hardly ground breaking.... Panerai had the 172 & 192 out about 6 years before Journe, and decades before that AP made Tantalum / 18k watches

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by endo

Probably worth noting, a tantalum case is hardly ground breaking.... Panerai had the 172 & 192 out about 6 years before Journe, and decades before that AP made Tantalum / 18k watches

Ahhh yes! So the next PP could be Tantalum. Exciting times.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by endo

More a case of “hard to work with cost effectively” than anything else, because of its a tendancy to gall and harden with heat produced by machining it.
(Like everything in life it comes down to the bottom line, and “basic” metals are far cheaper to machine, finish)

Probably worth noting, a tantalum case is hardly ground breaking.... Panerai had the 172 & 192 out about 6 years before Journe, and decades before that AP made Tantalum / 18k watches

Nobody said that was ground breaking, I think Steven was trying to address my comment of "scratch magnet " , probably thinking that Tantalum, theoretically could minimize the scratches. But the Tantalum has an industrial look, we all know that is not a good match for a Nautilus. Actually the Royal Oak has more of that industrial look than the nautilus.

Cheers

[endo]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Nobody said that was ground breaking, I think what Steven was trying to address my comment of "scratch magnet " , probably thinking that theoretically it could minimize the scratches. But the Tantalum has an industrial look, we all know that is not a good match for a Nautilus. Actually the Royal Oak has more of that industrial look than the nautilus.

Cheers

My post was more aimed at the myth of how hard tantalum to work, it does have an insanely high melting point, but it’s a relatively soft metal until it is heated, so can be a pain to machine first because it galls and grips the bit and then due to heat generated by friction hardens around it.

Howver with modern manufacuring techniques, the only real reasoning most people chose not to use it down to material costs & machining costs vs a traditional material which a manafacture already has tooling setup for and a simpler work flow.
Machining/tooling can be very expensive on complex cases, so reducing this cost is the first place the bean counters will look to make cuts, and maximize profits.


Obviously it’s alot less romantic.... but reality usually is.




I definatelty agree looks wise it would look awful on Nautilus, which needs a “bright” metal, even with the high polish/brushed contrast posible on the case/bracelet it wouldn’t look right

[LA-RealEstateAgent]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Also - The first photo is absolutely NOT titanium. Whomever doctored that one did a pretty crap job. The color is off, and the contrast in color between the brushed and polished portions would be far greater.

Great detective work