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Old 11 November 2022, 06:09 AM   #1
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5712/1A clasp

Does anybody know whether following the introduction of the new clasp on the 5712/1R, the steel version will now be coming out the factory with the same new style?
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Old 11 November 2022, 12:48 PM   #2
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Would like to know as well!
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Old 11 November 2022, 07:25 PM   #3
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I wonder if 5712/1A will be discontinued next year after 5712/1R has just released.


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Old 16 November 2022, 08:23 AM   #4
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Anybody receive fresh dates for 5712 to comment?
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Old 16 November 2022, 09:38 AM   #5
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In 11 years' ownership, I've never noticed any issue with the 5712 clasp.
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Old 17 November 2022, 08:58 AM   #6
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Does anybody know whether following the introduction of the new clasp on the 5712/1R, the steel version will now be coming out the factory with the same new style?
Yes - it's updated

Making me think they might not discontinue it next year.
They didn't updated 5726 clasp...

Wish I could upgrade my 5712 with this clasp, not that it failed me, but it's just so rough...
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Old 17 November 2022, 09:57 AM   #7
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Wish I could upgrade my 5712 with this clasp, not that it failed me, but it's just so rough...
Fair comment, it's the kind of watch that demands bravery from its wearer. Rough, tough military types from the Marines or the SAS will feel totally at home with the 5712. Other people may require a period of training and acclimatisation before attempting to wear the Nautilus for more than a few hours.
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Old 17 November 2022, 11:47 AM   #8
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Fair comment, it's the kind of watch that demands bravery from its wearer. Rough, tough military types from the Marines or the SAS will feel totally at home with the 5712. Other people may require a period of training and acclimatisation before attempting to wear the Nautilus for more than a few hours.
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Old 17 November 2022, 12:49 PM   #9
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Yes - it's updated

Making me think they might not discontinue it next year.
They didn't updated 5726 clasp...

Wish I could upgrade my 5712 with this clasp, not that it failed me, but it's just so rough...
Hi, how do you know it is updated? Are you sure?Haven’t seen any photos yet…
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Old 17 November 2022, 01:40 PM   #10
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Yes - it's updated

Making me think they might not discontinue it next year.
They didn't updated 5726 clasp...

Wish I could upgrade my 5712 with this clasp, not that it failed me, but it's just so rough...
Have you considered adding a link or two? Shouldn’t be so rough it’s interfering with lifting that glass of aperol spritz ha.

According to service centre you can’t order the new clasp for a 5712/1a. They’re also not aware of any new 5712/1a pieces coming with the new clasp.
Interesting to know where you obtained that info. or did you see a new piece with it on?
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Old 17 November 2022, 04:53 PM   #11
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there was an description update of the 5712/1a clasp on the patek website when the rose gold version was introduced, but this was removed.
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Old 19 November 2022, 04:49 AM   #12
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Anybody receive fresh dates for 5712 to comment?
October 2022… old clasp
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Old 27 November 2022, 05:48 AM   #13
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Any leads
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Old 27 November 2022, 06:00 AM   #14
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Let's all speculate on whether it's going to get chopped or not.

Alternatively, we could do something useful instead.

It's my favourite watch and I'll be sorry to see it go.

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Old 27 November 2022, 08:19 AM   #15
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Yes - it's updated

Making me think they might not discontinue it next year.
They didn't updated 5726 clasp...

Wish I could upgrade my 5712 with this clasp, not that it failed me, but it's just so rough...
5726 clasp was updated
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Old 27 November 2022, 08:24 AM   #16
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In 11 years' ownership, I've never noticed any issue with the 5712 clasp.
Idk if I would call it an issue per se but the clasp does feel very flimsy for a
45-50k watch. Also not having a micro-adjustment and having to reach finger under bracelet to “pop” it free to open is annoying as well (to me at least). I love the 5712 also and in my opinion those are the watches only flaws, with new clasp it would be very close to perfect for me.
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Old 27 November 2022, 01:02 PM   #17
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OP you can ask that question in Patek's website and someone from your regional Patek Service Centre will contact you hopefully with an answer. Hops this helps.
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Old 28 November 2022, 01:52 AM   #18
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Idk if I would call it an issue per se but the clasp does feel very flimsy for a
45-50k watch. Also not having a micro-adjustment and having to reach finger under bracelet to “pop” it free to open is annoying as well (to me at least). I love the 5712 also and in my opinion those are the watches only flaws, with new clasp it would be very close to perfect for me.
Once the clasp is fastened, it's forgotten. It never pops open on its own, and I don't agree that it feels flimsy at all. It doesn't have micro-adjustment, but that's not something I've personally ever needed.
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Old 28 November 2022, 11:27 AM   #19
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Once the clasp is fastened, it's forgotten. It never pops open on its own, and I don't agree that it feels flimsy at all. It doesn't have micro-adjustment, but that's not something I've personally ever needed.
I bent the clasp on mine where it attaches to the bracelet, probably just my fat ogre fingers.
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Old 31 March 2024, 04:49 PM   #20
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Am I right in saying that this upgrade has now happened?
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Old 3 April 2024, 02:16 AM   #21
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Am I right in saying that this upgrade has now happened?
Picked up a 5712 1/A earlier this year. Can confirm it has the new clasp. 5726 too.
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Old 3 April 2024, 02:34 AM   #22
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Glad to see it upgraded. If the 5712 had a weak spot, it was the clasp; it simply lacks the engineering refinement of the rest of the watch.
By contrast, and as an example of more consistent design language, I point to the superb clasp on the DSSD. My personal fav.
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Old 3 April 2024, 11:29 AM   #23
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Does the new clasp (butterfly style) mean that the bracelet overall is less slim than the previous gen?
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Old 3 April 2024, 08:24 PM   #24
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Does the new clasp (butterfly style) mean that the bracelet overall is less slim than the previous gen?
I'm not sure it's less slim on the clasp's side (if it does it should be very close). However, you can see now the pushers sticking out on the sides whereas the previous one made this part of the bracelet more "fluid" (https://www.hightime-reviews.com/pat...elties-review/)
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My 5726 has new clasp...

I saw a recent "exhibition" 5712 steel in AD case and it had previous clasp.

Would love to see it get the new closure!

As dumb as it sounds I would trade my old style clasp 5712 for a new style.
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Old 4 April 2024, 02:03 AM   #26
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I'm not sure it's less slim on the clasp's side (if it does it should be very close). However, you can see now the pushers sticking out on the sides whereas the previous one made this part of the bracelet more "fluid" (https://www.hightime-reviews.com/pat...elties-review/)
ahh thanks! for me i have similar butterfly styled clasps and the pusher bits always seem to add some thickness to the whole clasp (albeit very minor) so was wondering whether the PP one had the same issue, looks like it should with the pushers in any case
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Old 4 April 2024, 02:18 PM   #27
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My 5726 has new clasp...

I saw a recent "exhibition" 5712 steel in AD case and it had previous clasp.

Would love to see it get the new closure!

As dumb as it sounds I would trade my old style clasp 5712 for a new style.
European Watch Co. now has a new 5712 on their site and it’s about $30k more than one listed with the old clasp.
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European Watch Co. now has a new 5712 on their site and it’s about $30k more than one listed with the old clasp.
I saw that right after I posted

Wonder what I would get if I traded mine towards it
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Old 5 April 2024, 06:23 AM   #29
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The old clasp is way more comfortable than the new one, same for the Aquanaut. They don't have the bump that leave marks on the back of your arm while wearing it..
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Old 5 April 2024, 04:01 PM   #30
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I also prefer the classic clasp for the Nautilus.
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