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thomaspp · 12 May 2017, 01:52 AM

What are your thoughts on how this will do in the secondary market? Will it be a sought after limited edition similar to the snoopy or will it flop like various other limited editions have done?

I confess that I very much like the look of this watch. But it seems expensive for what it is and the inscription on the caseback and association with social media is just cheesy. Thanks.

sensui · 12 May 2017, 01:59 AM

Buy what you like....but I think it should hold value pretty well with a killer design and under 2000 limited number. It's the only modern speedy I've seen that even gets the vintage guys out of bed. My vote is boom.

thomaspp · 12 May 2017, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sensui

Buy what you like....but I think it should hold value pretty well with a killer design and under 2000 limited number. It's the only modern speedy I've seen that even gets the vintage guys out of bed. My vote is boom.

Thanks. I am a vintage guy... And I will buy what I like, but I refuse the buy dogs.... Best.

ap1 · 12 May 2017, 02:44 AM

Based on a six hour sell out that shunned west coasters I'd say there is a long line of orders that didn't get filled. I know I learned about this six days later and had no chance. I think it holds strong for sure. so, boom

incontrol · 12 May 2017, 02:50 AM

Only time will tell. I like the design and the fact that it sold out in a few hours tells me there are many that want it.

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red1108nyc · 12 May 2017, 04:06 AM

Love the design and can't wait to own one and rock it on a bracelet!

incontrol · 12 May 2017, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by red1108nyc

Love the design and can't wait to own one and rock it on a bracelet!

I am hoping the leather strap is nicer then it looks. I would love to wear it on a great vintage style strap.

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Swiss_Time_Watches · 12 May 2017, 05:23 AM

Problem is the the subdials now look all jammed together. Not really a speedy fan so there you have it.

Wahlberg · 12 May 2017, 05:38 AM

With all the big social media watch guys buying it I'm sure it will be and remain popular and create a hype on the used market.

thomaspp · 12 May 2017, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by incontrol

I am hoping the leather strap is nicer then it looks. I would love to wear it on a great vintage style strap.

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The leather strap appears to be crap.... It will look good on a quality vintage style strap though.

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

With all the big social media watch guys buying it I'm sure it will be and remain popular and create a hype on the used market.

Yes, could be.

I have "reserved" one, just not entirely convinced yet..... it's odd.

SC11 · 12 May 2017, 06:13 AM

Didn't bond with the CK will see how it's goes with the ST

DCheeta · 12 May 2017, 06:34 AM

I have a few thoughts on this one.

First and foremost, it is the coolest modern Speedy I've seen since the Mitsukoshi (sorry, not a fan of the Snoopy editions). I love the brushed case, the radial subdials, the reverse panda dial. They nailed it!

Second, people keep talking about how it "sold out" in a few hours. It didn't. In fact they have not sold a single one yet, as far as I know. It was simply "reserved out", and those reservations involved no commitment, monetary or otherwise. I'm not saying this to diminish the desirability of the piece, I just don't think it is a good barometer for the market's demand for it.

All that being said, based on the fact that the ST has many design features that Speedmaster enthusiasts love, and that it is a limited edition, I think that it will in fact be a success and its value on the secondary market will be strong.

Bushido · 12 May 2017, 06:43 AM

If we forget about the ties to social media for a moment and simply evaluate the watch, it's still a big winner. Aesthetics in construction make this model completely unique compared to any other Speedy out there. Reverse panda, brushed case, radial subdials, ect are not found elsewhere in the Speedmaster lineage similar to this package.

Add to the above the immense popularity of the Speedy within the WIS community, very fast reserve exhaustion, those of us residing on the west coast couldn't even get a shot a reserving one, and the popularity of the social media...easy boom market.

As a US west coast person, whom didn't have a chance, I would like there to be a number of people that pass on the watch so I can get pulled up from the wait list. However, I'm less than optimistic. That means looking at the secondary market for me. Ergo, my vote that this is a boom runs contrary to my own self interest.

thomaspp · 12 May 2017, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DCheeta

I have a few thoughts on this one.

First and foremost, it is the coolest modern Speedy I've seen since the Mitsukoshi (sorry, not a fan of the Snoopy editions). I love the brushed case, the radial subdials, the reverse panda dial. They nailed it!

Second, people keep talking about how it "sold out" in a few hours. It didn't. In fact they have not sold a single one yet, as far as I know. It was simply "reserved out", and those reservations involved no commitment, monetary or otherwise. I'm not saying this to diminish the desirability of the piece, I just don't think it is a good barometer for the market's demand for it.

All that being said, based on the fact that the ST has many design features that Speedmaster enthusiasts love, and that it is a limited edition, I think that it will in fact be a success and its value on the secondary market will be strong.

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Originally Posted by Bushido

If we forget about the ties to social media for a moment and simply evaluate the watch, it's still a big winner. Aesthetics in construction make this model completely unique compared to any other Speedy out there. Reverse panda, brushed case, radial subdials, ect are not found elsewhere in the Speedmaster lineage similar to this package.

Add to the above the immense popularity of the Speedy within the WIS community, very fast reserve exhaustion, those of us residing on the west coast couldn't even get a shot a reserving one, and the popularity of the social media...easy boom market.

As a US west coast person, whom didn't have a chance, I would like there to be a number of people that pass on the watch so I can get pulled up from the wait list. However, I'm less than optimistic. That means looking at the secondary market for me. Ergo, my vote that this is a boom runs contrary to my own self interest.

Good, very good thoughts here; thank you . Like I said above, putting aside all of the marketing hype and other nonsense, I do very much like the watch. I have a essentially become a vintage rolex and modern patek collector, and this ST has caught my attention big time.

I could have lived without the cheesy inscription on the back and the terrible leather and nato strap accessories... but oh well.

Wahlberg · 12 May 2017, 07:17 AM

I just took a look at your instagram page, wow... With your collection, why even bother with the speedy. I would never wear it.

thomaspp · 12 May 2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

I just took a look at your instagram page, wow... With your collection, why even bother with the speedy. I would never wear it.

Lol. Thank you... but I like all kinds of watches and in all price ranges and the speedy is an iconic watch.

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sapper17 · 26 May 2017, 11:17 PM

I hope the pictures of the leather strap are not accurate. It looks like vinyl, not supple at all

thomaspp · 26 May 2017, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sapper17

I hope the pictures of the leather strap are not accurate. It looks like vinyl, not supple at all

Agreed. The straps look like they belong in the bin... but there are plenty of great vintage watch straps around.

unknown · 27 May 2017, 12:56 AM

I don't care about the value
would love to buy one but I was too late :-(

I hope I can still get one but it will be very difficult I believe

I'm on the 'waiting list' but I don't expect too much

ejvette · 27 May 2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

Lol. Thank you... but I like all kinds of watches and in all price ranges and the speedy is an iconic watch.

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Ok I had to check out your page that's one serious collection truly the envy of any WIS!

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thomaspp · 27 May 2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ejvette

Ok I had to check out your page that's one serious collection truly the envy of any WIS!

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Thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

I don't care about the value
would love to buy one but I was too late :-(

I hope I can still get one but it will be very difficult I believe

I'm on the 'waiting list' but I don't expect too much

Super! Good to know my friend. Be well!

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SSCosmo · 27 May 2017, 01:22 PM

I read somewhere that Fratello Watches themselves said there are over 6000 people on the waitlist for this watch. So even if none of the people with reservations pick-up their watch, it would still sell-out if just 1/3 of the people on the waitlist pick them up.

Few things in life are ever certain, but I'd bet good money that this watch will increase in value, and I'm not even a gambler! To me, the looks of this watch will appeal to the general luxury watch buyer much more than the Snoopy, which I think only watch enthusiasts or speedy fans appreciate. 2012 pieces for that market is not very much.

thomaspp · 27 May 2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SSCosmo

I read somewhere that Fratello Watches themselves said there are over 6000 people on the waitlist for this watch. So even if none of the people with reservations pick-up their watch, it would still sell-out if just 1/3 of the people on the waitlist pick them up.

Few things in life are ever certain, but I'd bet good money that this watch will increase in value, and I'm not even a gambler! To me, the looks of this watch will appeal to the general luxury watch buyer much more than the Snoopy, which I think only watch enthusiasts or speedy fans appreciate. 2012 pieces for that market is not very much.

Interesting. I had not heard that 6000 figure before. Best

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Strummer · 29 May 2017, 12:04 PM

Boom. The reps at the Omega dealer where I'm picking mine up said they have a waitlist of 10 people that want one and are willing to do just about anything to get one. That said, I'm keeping mine. Ps. I don't think anyone getting one of these cares about the straps. Most people I know waiting on one of these, already has a plan for something else. Best.

thomaspp · 29 May 2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Strummer

Boom. The reps at the Omega dealer where I'm picking mine up said they have a waitlist of 10 people that want one and are willing to do just about anything to get one. That said, I'm keeping mine. Ps. I don't think anyone getting one of these cares about the straps. Most people I know waiting on one of these, already has a plan for something else. Best.

Thanks and interesting to hear. Agree on straps 100%.

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DramaTurtle · 29 May 2017, 02:51 PM

Amazingly cool looking speedy. Definite boom.

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12 May 2017, 01:52 AM	#1
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	Speedy Tuesday: Boom or Bust? What are your thoughts on how this will do in the secondary market? Will it be a sought after limited edition similar to the snoopy or will it flop like various other limited editions have done? I confess that I very much like the look of this watch. But it seems expensive for what it is and the inscription on the caseback and association with social media is just cheesy. Thanks. __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

12 May 2017, 02:50 AM	#5
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	Only time will tell. I like the design and the fact that it sold out in a few hours tells me there are many that want it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

27 May 2017, 12:56 AM	#19
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,802	I don't care about the value would love to buy one but I was too late :-( I hope I can still get one but it will be very difficult I believe I'm on the 'waiting list' but I don't expect too much __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

12 May 2017, 01:59 AM	#2
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,356	Buy what you like....but I think it should hold value pretty well with a killer design and under 2000 limited number. It's the only modern speedy I've seen that even gets the vintage guys out of bed. My vote is boom.

12 May 2017, 02:44 AM	#4
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,045	Based on a six hour sell out that shunned west coasters I'd say there is a long line of orders that didn't get filled. I know I learned about this six days later and had no chance. I think it holds strong for sure. so, boom

12 May 2017, 04:06 AM	#6
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,500	Love the design and can't wait to own one and rock it on a bracelet!

12 May 2017, 05:23 AM	#8
Swiss_Time_Watches 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London, UK. Posts: 220	Problem is the the subdials now look all jammed together. Not really a speedy fan so there you have it.

12 May 2017, 05:38 AM	#9
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,536	With all the big social media watch guys buying it I'm sure it will be and remain popular and create a hype on the used market.

12 May 2017, 06:13 AM	#11
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	Didn't bond with the CK will see how it's goes with the ST

12 May 2017, 06:34 AM	#12
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,180	I have a few thoughts on this one. First and foremost, it is the coolest modern Speedy I've seen since the Mitsukoshi (sorry, not a fan of the Snoopy editions). I love the brushed case, the radial subdials, the reverse panda dial. They nailed it! Second, people keep talking about how it "sold out" in a few hours. It didn't. In fact they have not sold a single one yet, as far as I know. It was simply "reserved out", and those reservations involved no commitment, monetary or otherwise. I'm not saying this to diminish the desirability of the piece, I just don't think it is a good barometer for the market's demand for it. All that being said, based on the fact that the ST has many design features that Speedmaster enthusiasts love, and that it is a limited edition, I think that it will in fact be a success and its value on the secondary market will be strong.

12 May 2017, 06:43 AM	#13
Bushido "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 512	If we forget about the ties to social media for a moment and simply evaluate the watch, it's still a big winner. Aesthetics in construction make this model completely unique compared to any other Speedy out there. Reverse panda, brushed case, radial subdials, ect are not found elsewhere in the Speedmaster lineage similar to this package. Add to the above the immense popularity of the Speedy within the WIS community, very fast reserve exhaustion, those of us residing on the west coast couldn't even get a shot a reserving one, and the popularity of the social media...easy boom market. As a US west coast person, whom didn't have a chance, I would like there to be a number of people that pass on the watch so I can get pulled up from the wait list. However, I'm less than optimistic. That means looking at the secondary market for me. Ergo, my vote that this is a boom runs contrary to my own self interest.

12 May 2017, 07:17 AM	#15
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,536	I just took a look at your instagram page, wow... With your collection, why even bother with the speedy. I would never wear it.

26 May 2017, 11:17 PM	#17
sapper17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Joe Location: NYC Watch: Rolex - Omega Posts: 441	I hope the pictures of the leather strap are not accurate. It looks like vinyl, not supple at all

27 May 2017, 01:22 PM	#22
SSCosmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Taipei Posts: 294	I read somewhere that Fratello Watches themselves said there are over 6000 people on the waitlist for this watch. So even if none of the people with reservations pick-up their watch, it would still sell-out if just 1/3 of the people on the waitlist pick them up. Few things in life are ever certain, but I'd bet good money that this watch will increase in value, and I'm not even a gambler! To me, the looks of this watch will appeal to the general luxury watch buyer much more than the Snoopy, which I think only watch enthusiasts or speedy fans appreciate. 2012 pieces for that market is not very much.

29 May 2017, 12:04 PM	#24
Strummer "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 108	Boom. The reps at the Omega dealer where I'm picking mine up said they have a waitlist of 10 people that want one and are willing to do just about anything to get one. That said, I'm keeping mine. Ps. I don't think anyone getting one of these cares about the straps. Most people I know waiting on one of these, already has a plan for something else. Best.

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