Rolex 6202 - is the dial refinished? luke rottman

[Matdaytona]

seems like only yesterday happy anniversary

[MonBK]

Happy Birthday!

[MonBK]

A bump in case you missed this thread.

[MonBK]

x2 ^

[southtexas]

Relentless!


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[Haywood_Milton]

A new thread mentioning a Luke Rottman has just begun over on www.vintagerolexforum.com

There is mention of a refinished dial and a problem with a refund.

Who is Michael Falone?

It would be great if LR could return here and tell us anything more about these stories.

.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

A new thread mentioning a Luke Rottman has just begun over on www.vintagerolexforum.com

There is mention of a refinished dial and a problem with a refund.

Who is Michael Falone?

It would be great if LR could return here and tell us anything more about these stories.

.

I tried to Google Michael Falone

[Haywood_Milton]

Probably as a result of moderation / forum rules, the thread has now been deleted from VRF.

The complainant was clearly very unhappy and made troublingly familiar claims that would raise the eyebrows of many who have followed this thread.

H

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Probably as a result of moderation / forum rules, the thread has now been deleted from VRF.

The complainant was clearly very unhappy and made troublingly familiar claims that would raise the eyebrows of many who have followed this thread.

H

He inherited the "paint the dial" skills from his master.

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Probably as a result of moderation / forum rules, the thread has now been deleted from VRF.

The complainant was clearly very unhappy and made troublingly familiar claims that would raise the eyebrows of many who have followed this thread.

H

You can still find the thread in bings cache. I usually go to googles cache in cases like this but it was only available in bing.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

You can still find the thread in bings cache. I usually go to googles cache in cases like this but it was only available in bing.

Any chance of a link?

[springer]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Any chance of a link?

Here:

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=Mic...r13TF9XOPWCH4h

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by springer

Here:

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=Mic...r13TF9XOPWCH4h

Thanks so much

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Thanks so much

You're welcome...

[Haywood_Milton]

Ah, this thread again :-)

I see some further, similar things on both Luke Rottman's and Robert Maron's websites. For example :

http://www.thewatchadviser.com/the-shop/role

http://robertmaron.com/product.php?p...01&cat=&page=1

and

http://www.thewatchadviser.com/the-shop/rolex-day-

http://robertmaron.com/product.php?p...71&cat=&page=1

....even with the same descriptions and corrigenda. In the last lines about the bracelet on both the Day-Dates: "...in an [sic] of itself..." is coincidentally written thus in both.

Mr. Rottman was keen to distance himself from Mr. Maron earlier in the thread, but if you follow it through it is remarkable how they seem to show so many watches in common.

It would be lovely if he would revisit this thread and perhaps comment further.

H

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Ah, this thread again :-)

I see some further, similar things on both Luke Rottman's and Robert Maron's websites. For example :

http://www.thewatchadviser.com/the-shop/role

http://robertmaron.com/product.php?p...01&cat=&page=1

and

http://www.thewatchadviser.com/the-shop/rolex-day-

http://robertmaron.com/product.php?p...71&cat=&page=1

....even with the same descriptions and corrigenda. In the last lines about the bracelet on both the Day-Dates: "...in an [sic] of itself..." is coincidentally written thus in both.

Mr. Rottman was keen to distance himself from Mr. Maron earlier in the thread, but if you follow it through it is remarkable how they seem to show so many watches in common.

It would be lovely if he would revisit this thread and perhaps comment further.

H

I don't think you'll see the "father" post here and the "son" is to busy.

[belligero]

Mere coincidence, no doubt. This Rotter fellow seems like a lad of unassailable integrity, much like his apparent guru. ;)

[JnmEaton]

45 minutes of my life i'll never get back......... it was worth it tho......... obviously they are working together in some capacity. twice the interweb traffic, twice the opportunity to sell. Dang those customers always being right. Dang those refunds.

[MonBK]

A bump in case you missed it.

[Tom1675]

Seems like this should be a sticky! :)

[JnmEaton]

Is there a reason I'm missing that this thread keeps getting brought back Monbk? Just curious, I read the whole thread and have to admit, it's interesting. I'm curious if anyone has enjoyed any transactions with either of these fellas?

[Haywood_Milton]

It’ll keep resurfacing until or unless people feel satisfied with Luke Rottman’s account. His refusal to engage may only excite further suspicion.

I find it interestimg to spot watches that Rottman, the WatchAdvisor, offers for sale which can be identified at exactly the same time on Robert Maron’s site. Is this consistent with Rottman’s stated position earlier in the thread?

Their connections may be opaque and mysterious to many and the refusal to engage further with this thread may sit badly.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by MonBK

A bump in case you missed it.

Thank you.

[Haywood_Milton]

Followers of this thread may wish to know that there is now a Luke Rottman Facebook page on which it is stated that the person of that name "Works at Robert Maron Watches."

Some may also wish to read the comments on a watch he has posted in the Vintage Rolex Forum page on Facebook today.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Some may also wish to read the comments on a watch he has posted in the Vintage Rolex Forum page on Facebook today.

Would you mind posting here pics and details for people like me who aren't on Facebook? (neither on Instagram FWIW)

[Haywood_Milton]

The thread on Fb has just been deleted....and apparently not by a moderator! Luckily I have screen shots of all, but not sure about publishing in full as they contain a fresh...er...story from a very unhappy third party.

Separately, I note from the timeline on Luke Rottman's Facebook page that he himself says "Started New Job at Robert Maron Watches" ....in 2014.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

The thread on Fb has just been deleted....and apparently not by a moderator! Luckily I have screen shots of all, but not sure about publishing in full as they contain a fresh...er...story from a very unhappy third party.

Separately, I note from the timeline on Luke Rottman's Facebook page that he himself says "Started New Job at Robert Maron Watches" ....in 2014.

What a shocker.

[Haywood_Milton]

Admin on the VRF Facebook page have just published an extraordinary, specific appeal which may be significant.

I could not say if events earlier today are connected.

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Admin on the VRF Facebook page have just published an extraordinary, specific appeal which may be significant.

I could not say if events earlier today are connected.

Haywood, could you post a screen shot of that? I'm still waiting on their FB admin to approve my request to follow them.

[Haywood_Milton]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Haywood, could you post a screen shot of that? I'm still waiting on their FB admin to approve my request to follow them.

The VRF Facebook page admin post reads :

“If any members here have any outstanding issues or problems with the seller [name of individual] [trading name], please PM me.

Thanks”